[DNSOP] Re: [Ext] [DNSOP]Requesting final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-06-06 Thread Tim Wicinski
FC 8499 (Obsoleted by RFC 9499) thanks tim > --Paul Hoffman > > > On Jun 5, 2024, at 08:25, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > All > > > > The chairs are requesting some final comments on > draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis. As you might recall, this docume

[DNSOP]Requesting final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-06-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The chairs are requesting some final comments on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis. As you might recall, this document has already been through WGLC and had consensus to advance, but our AD reviewed it and raised some additional questions. (Warren Kumari, “AD Review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis,”

[DNSOP]Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-06

2024-05-24 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-06 as Informational on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion/ ___ DNSOP mailing

[DNSOP]Re: [IANA #1362913] expert review for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping (dns-parameters)

2024-05-15 Thread Tim Wicinski
in this discussion. tim (just a contributor) On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 10:29 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > I wrote a note to Peter and his co-author on this discussion and > we(chairs) feel that Paul W is correct in saying _signal is too generic. > > We should not overload any underscore label for multi

[DNSOP]Re: [IANA #1362913] expert review for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping (dns-parameters)

2024-05-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
I wrote a note to Peter and his co-author on this discussion and we(chairs) feel that Paul W is correct in saying _signal is too generic. We should not overload any underscore label for multiple purposes. If another type of operator signalling appears, a new label can be acquired. Being specific

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis, must-not-sha1, must-not-ecc-gost

2024-04-27 Thread Tim Wicinski
All These were discussed at the last IETF and the chairs felt there was consensus to request adoption. This starts a Call for Adoption for: draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis draft-hardaker-dnsop-must-not-sha1 draft-hardaker-dnsop-must-not-ecc-gost The drafts are available here:

[DNSOP] Minutes from IETF119

2024-03-26 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Thanks for two successful sessions of DNSOP and thanks to Paul Hoffman for his note taking ! I've uploaded the minutes into the datatracker: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/119/materials/minutes-119-dnsop-01 I made sure the links to the chat logs for the DNSOP sessions are in the

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-07

2024-03-24 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-07 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

[DNSOP] draft-hardaker-dnsop-rfc8624-bis

2024-03-21 Thread Tim Wicinski
Not wearing any hats, really I want to thank Wes and Warren for putting this together and I think this is a good way to build on the good work that RFC8624 produced. tim ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Followup Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2024-02-14 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi This working group last call wrapped up last week, but between OARC and a multi-vendor CVE I allowed myself to get distracted. I'll do the shepherd writeup later this week thanks tim On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:23 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > Peter has integrated f

[DNSOP] DNSOP Interim 2024-01 minutes

2024-01-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
Again thanks to mr Hoffman for minutes, here they are and uploaded in the datatracker and our git repo Thank you one and all for having great productive conversations! tim DNSOP WG Interim meeting 2024-01-30 1700 UTC Chairs: Benno Overeinder, Suzanne Woolf, Tim Wicinski Minutes taken by Paul

Re: [DNSOP] draft-dnsop-deleg-00

2024-01-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
John On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 11:29 AM John Dickinson wrote: > On 30/01/2024 16:21, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 30 Jan 2024, at 15:57, Roy Arends wrote: > > >>> If an authority server is capable of loading a DELEG RRSet and > generating referral responses accordingly, it's surely also possible of

Re: [DNSOP] draft-dnsop-deleg-00

2024-01-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
(my vibes only) On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 11:21 AM Joe Abley wrote: > > > I think specifying rules about which to prefer is important. But I also > think it's worth thinking more pessimistically around what kinds of > failures will result when people get that wrong. We have already seen this >

Re: [DNSOP] Domain Name System Operations (dnsop) WG Virtual Meeting: 2024-01-30

2024-01-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
Wes On Mon, Jan 29, 2024 at 6:45 PM Wes Hardaker wrote: > IESG Secretary writes: > > > The Domain Name System Operations (dnsop) WG will hold a virtual > > interim meeting on 2024-01-30 from 18:00 to 19:00 Europe/Amsterdam > > (17:00 to 18:00 UTC). > > I'm sadly very day-job conflicted with

Re: [DNSOP] Followup Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2024-01-29 Thread Tim Wicinski
. If someone feels we missed something, please speak up. thanks tim On Sat, Jan 20, 2024 at 6:23 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > Peter has integrated feedback from the first working group last call, and > we'd like to do a followup last call. The diff with the current ve

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis-02

2024-01-22 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis-02 as Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis/ ___ DNSOP

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-01-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > All > > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis > "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries" > > Current versions of the draft is available here: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf

[DNSOP] Followup Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2024-01-20 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Peter has integrated feedback from the first working group last call, and we'd like to do a followup last call. The diff with the current version is here: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url1=draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-05=draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-07=--html This

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2024-01-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
Thanks Peter and Paul I'll review the revised I-D but we were thinking of going another (perhaps shorter) follow up working group last call tim On Fri, Jan 19, 2024 at 8:59 AM Peter Thomassen wrote: > For the record, Paul and I sorted these out off-list (for real, this > time!), and I'll

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-01-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
we missed something, please speak up. thanks tim On Mon, Jan 8, 2024 at 8:54 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > All > > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis > "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries" > > Current versions of the d

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2024-01-08 Thread Tim Wicinski
All This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries" Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis/ The Current Intended Status of this document is: Best

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis (2nd round)

2023-12-28 Thread Tim Wicinski
, 2023 at 3:14 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > The WGLC closes next week, Saturday, December 24. > > > This should say *Sunday* December 24. > > thanks > > Tim > (currently double checking some appointments) > >> ___

Re: [DNSOP] Notification Call for Adoption: draft-bash-rfc7958bis

2023-12-28 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 9:55 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > Dear WG, > > The working group was asked to adopt draft-bash-rfc7958bis “DNSSEC Trust > Anchor Publication for the Root Zone” as a working group document, and the > call went out on October 12 this year. So far we've seen on

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis (2nd round)

2023-12-18 Thread Tim Wicinski
The WGLC closes next week, Saturday, December 24. This should say *Sunday* December 24. thanks Tim (currently double checking some appointments) > ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

[DNSOP] WGLC draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis (2nd round)

2023-12-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
Dear WG, After the premature start of the first Working Group Last Call (WGLC) for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis by the chairs, a second WGLC was initiated on October 10, 2023. The document has remained relatively stable over the past two years, except for the addition of missing sections in the

[DNSOP] Notification Call for Adoption: draft-bash-rfc7958bis

2023-12-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
Dear WG, The working group was asked to adopt draft-bash-rfc7958bis “DNSSEC Trust Anchor Publication for the Root Zone” as a working group document, and the call went out on October 12 this year. So far we've seen one support email on the list, and during the IETF 117 DNSOP WG session the chairs

[DNSOP] Chairs Actions from IETF118

2023-11-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Apologies for taking a bit longer than we thought, but we wanted to send out our list of chair's actions taken from the last meeting. If anyone thinks we missed something please let us know. thanks tim --- ## IETF118 Chairs Actions ### Actions * draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

[DNSOP] Fwd: [dnssd] Call for adoption of draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes into DNSSD

2023-11-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
DNSOP DNSSD has placed a call for adoption for Ray Bellis' document on Multi Qtypes. Current version is here. https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-bellis-dnsext-multi-qtypes-08.html The DNSOP chairs would like the DNSOP working group to comment on this call for adoption. We are aware that not

[DNSOP] Minutes from IETF118

2023-11-12 Thread Tim Wicinski
to review to make sure if you are quoted that you are quoted correctly, etc. The chairs are working up a list of actions to take from the meeting that we'll send out this week. Tim along with Benno and Suzanne DNSOP WG IETF 118, Prague Chairs: Benno Overeinder, Suzanne Woolf, Tim Wicinski Minutes

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-11-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
roup Last Call for > draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping > > > On 9/19/23 21:48, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for > draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping > > > > > > Current

Re: [DNSOP] [dnsdir] DNS in Constrained Network Scenarios

2023-11-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
Martine First thanks for the presentation this morning. Second, I am your DNS Directorate reviewer for draft-ietf-core-dns-over-coap, and I realize I owe your latest versions a review. Geoff/Jim - I wonder if we should have a second pair of eyes on this document? While I am not one of the DNS

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-07.txt

2023-11-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
on, > Resulting in potentially unwanted censorship... > > Gianpaolo > > Inviato da Outlook per Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg> > > > C2 General > -- > *Da:* Ben Schwartz > *Inviato:* Giovedì, Novembre 9, 2023 5:14:26 PM > *A:*

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-structured-dns-error-07.txt

2023-11-09 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023 at 10:02 AM Ben Schwartz wrote: > Note that "mailto" URIs can pre-populate subject and body contents, so > information about the specific blocked item and other metadata could be > populated automatically. This seems sufficient for enterprise use cases > like allowing

[DNSOP] DRAFT Agenda for IETF118 DNSOP Sessions

2023-10-25 Thread Tim Wicinski
Overeinder [be...@nlnetlabs.nl](be...@nlnetlabs.nl) * Suzanne Woolf [suzworldw...@gmail.com](suzworldw...@gmail.com) * Tim Wicinski [tjw.i...@gmail.com](tjw.i...@gmail.com) ### IESG Overlord * Warren Kumari [war...@kumari.net](war...@kumari.net) ### Document Status * [Github](https://github.com

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bash-rfc7958bis

2023-10-12 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi This is another relatively small document that is updating RFC7958, and needs to be updated prior to the next KSK rollover. This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-bash-rfc7958bis "DNSSEC Trust Anchor Publication for the Root Zone" The draft is available here:

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bellis-dnsop-qdcount-is-one

2023-10-12 Thread Tim Wicinski
draft-ietf-dnsop-qdcount-is-one into the datatracker. The chairs hope Mr. Bellis is rested from his holiday to address this task. thanks tim On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 12:59 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > We want to thank Joe and Ray for getting this republished with the notes > from the

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis (Second Time!)

2023-10-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi All We had so much fun the first timeActually this chair wishes to thank Mr Abley and Mr Huston for catching our error so quickly, and we apologize for any and all inconvenience. I did go back and looked at the history AND also reread the document. I do wish to point out that there are 4

Re: [DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-10-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
All I know this was a bit longer than a week, but we wanted to receive some confirmations from folks with questions on implementations. We've received that, and the chairs feel the consensus is to move forward. Thanks tim On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 2:27 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > (forgive

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-15

2023-10-10 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-15 as Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-10-08 Thread Tim Wicinski
Paul, Thanks for getting an update done!. I started reviewing it (as now I want to double check), but we should should get this out back on the top of the stack. tim On Thu, Oct 5, 2023 at 6:16 PM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Sep 14, 2023, at 18:46, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > We

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-04

2023-10-02 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-04 as Informational on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion/ ___ DNSOP mailing

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bellis-dnsop-qdcount-is-one

2023-09-28 Thread Tim Wicinski
We want to thank Joe and Ray for getting this republished with the notes from the previous meeting. Thanks Ted and Eric for their comments today, we will remember them. I will say that this chair likes the appendix, to remind me what I have glossed over, as the authors have already corrected me

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-bellis-dnsop-qdcount-is-one-01.txt

2023-09-28 Thread Tim Wicinski
Thanks Joe for pulling this together. tim On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 10:57 AM Ted Lemon wrote: > Thanks for the update. I think this does the job. I could do without the > appendix, but I understand the urge to fully document. :) > > On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 9:40 AM Joe Abley wrote: > >> Hi all,

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping

2023-09-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping/ The Current Intended Status of this document is: Standards Track This Document will update

[DNSOP] Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

2023-09-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
(forgive my missing subject previously) All After pulling this back (Thanks Peter again), we went back to the authors and In the case of the DF bit, the wording is changed from "UDP responders are RECOMMENDED" to "UDP responders MAY" They also added some additional text in the security

[DNSOP] (no subject)

2023-09-19 Thread Tim Wicinski
Followup One Week Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation All After pulling this back (Thanks Peter again), we went back to the authors and In the case of the DF bit, the wording is changed from "UDP responders are RECOMMENDED" to "UDP responders MAY" They also added

Re: [DNSOP] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis-09: (with COMMENT)

2023-09-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 5:01 AM Joe Abley wrote: > Hi Murray! > > Op 17 sep. 2023 om 08:07 heeft Murray Kucherawy via Datatracker < > nore...@ietf.org> het volgende geschreven: > > > I thought the IESG (though maybe not this particular one) had previously > > discouraged publishing "living

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-09-14 Thread Tim Wicinski
All We chairs heard back from the authors and we're pulling this working group last call. I want to share some background - Paul and I talked at 117 and he said the document is ready, and I trust Paul implicitly in these matters. Then when the dnsdir review came back as it was I was like "OK".

Re: [DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14

2023-09-14 Thread Tim Wicinski
Peter On Fri, Aug 18, 2023 at 11:33 AM Peter van Dijk wrote: > Hello Tim, > > On Wed, 2023-08-16 at 15:45 -0700, Tim Wicinski via Datatracker wrote: > > Tim Wicinski has requested publication of > draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14 as Best Current Practice on behalf >

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-09-13 Thread Tim Wicinski
call to put more eyes onto a document. tim On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:30 PM Geoff Huston wrote: > > > > On 14 Sep 2023, at 6:25 am, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > > > > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:20 PM Joe Abley wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > >

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-09-13 Thread Tim Wicinski
On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:20 PM Joe Abley wrote: > Hi Tim, > > Op 13 sep. 2023 om 23:06 heeft Tim Wicinski het > volgende geschreven: >  > > This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis > "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-09-13 Thread Tim Wicinski
Hi All We Chairs are back and catching up, and want to get things moving again. This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8109bis "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries" Current versions of the draft is available here:

[DNSOP] IETF117 Chairs Actions

2023-08-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
All, Thanks for another productive session of DNSOP. Paul's minutes have been uploaded. If you made comments at the microphone, please confirm everything is accurate. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-117-dnsop/

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14

2023-08-16 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-14 as Best Current Practice on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation

Re: [DNSOP] A question on values in draft-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures

2023-07-26 Thread Tim Wicinski
Duane/Evan/Mukund/All, What do feel is the consensus on lowering the value to 1 second ? >From the previous suggested text: Resolvers MUST cache resolution failures for at least 1 second. The initial duration SHOULD be configurable by the operator. A longer cache duration for

Re: [DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-13.txt

2023-07-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
Peter On Mon, Jul 17, 2023 at 3:37 AM Peter van Dijk wrote: > On Wed, 2023-07-05 at 18:51 -0400, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > The authors of draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation worked with different > implementers to expand upon the index of Known Implementations, and wha

Re: [DNSOP] A question on values in draft-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures

2023-07-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
e operator. thanks tim > DW > > > > > On Jul 23, 2023, at 9:00 PM, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > > > > > All, > > > > We had a discussion this morning during the hackathon about a value with > > the document caching-resolution-failu

[DNSOP] A question on values in draft-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures

2023-07-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
All, We had a discussion this morning during the hackathon about a value with the document caching-resolution-failures. The current text in 3.2 says: Resolvers MUST cache resolution failures for at least 5 seconds. The value of 5 seconds is chosen as a reasonable amount of time that an

[DNSOP] Presenters please submit slides

2023-07-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
Presenters, DNSOP is less than 24 hours away and we have one set of slides. Please submit your slides here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/117/session/dnsop or to the chairs. The Chairs slides will be uploaded shortly tim ___ DNSOP mailing

Re: [DNSOP] draft-dnsop-dnssec-extension-pkix

2023-07-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
ownership could >> > be determined by creation time (i.e. it's a race condition without a >> > stronger mechanism.) >> >> Explicit disavowal should be able to solve this too, if the IP addresses >> targetted can be reasonably safely (multiple samples over a peri

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-05

2023-07-22 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures-05 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-02.txt

2023-07-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Shivan, Shumon and Paul have incorporated feedback from the WG as well as several area reviews, and more. It's a much better document because of that, and we thank everyone. The chairs want to give the WG a 7-10 days to review the changes and confirm there are no issues thanks tim On Mon,

Re: [DNSOP] Current status of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-validator-requirements

2023-07-06 Thread Tim Wicinski
ve support for it. Thanks tim On Mon, May 29, 2023 at 6:58 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All, > > The chairs want to thank everyone for the feedback on this document > recently. We've been in discussions with Warren and the authors about this > document, and we have some questions we'd like

[DNSOP] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-13.txt

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The authors of draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation worked with different implementers to expand upon the index of Known Implementations, and what they implement specifically. The chairs would like to have a one week follow up Working Group Last Call comment period. We are looking for

Re: [DNSOP] Feedback on draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-01

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
Erik I placed your excellent comments into the author's issue tracker, then we decided to split them up into separate issues. Take a look to confirm. If anything is wrong, it's one me tim APEX domains, and hostnames vs domains

Re: [DNSOP] draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
to this email thread as something that can be addressed. Authors should fill free to submit to the ISE. We will alert them as well tim On Fri, Jun 23, 2023 at 4:18 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > Draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof was originally submitted back in > 2014, and has h

Re: [DNSOP] [v6ops] WG call for adoption: draft-momoka-v6ops-ipv6-only-resolver-01

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
Momoka Thanks for making DNSOP aware of this. We encourage anyone with comments on the document adoption to reach out. Everything I've heard and read on this work (wearing no hats) is that this is good work and should be adopted. thanks tim On Tue, Jul 4, 2023 at 5:15 AM Momoka Yamamoto

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures

2023-07-05 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The Working Group Last Call has completed and the chairs thank everyone for their comments. It appears that the authors have addressed all issues, and the document is ready to advance. tim On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 11:00 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > All > > This starts a Working G

[DNSOP] draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof

2023-06-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof was originally submitted back in 2014, and has had 10 revisions since then. https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dulaunoy-dnsop-passive-dns-cof/ Note that the format is now fixed, and there are several implementations. We had asked DNSOP (in the poll

[DNSOP] DNSOP chairs office hours

2023-06-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The Chairs have been talking about this for awhile, and we want to try an experiment and to start holding open 'office hours.' This would be a time when anyone is welcome to drop in and chat with the chairs about mentoring, roadblocks on drafts, cross-area concerns, process questions, etc.

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for Negative Caching of DNS Resolution Failures

2023-06-21 Thread Tim Wicinski
All This starts a Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures Current versions of the draft is available here: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-caching-resolution-failures/ The Current Intended Status of this document is: Proposed Standard/Standards

Re: [DNSOP] Reminder: Please review draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-dane

2023-06-21 Thread Tim Wicinski
Ben Thanks for this, this will help the chairs. What we would like to hear from is perhaps one of the many folks who have done operational work with DANE and can add any comments. thanks tim On Wed, Jun 21, 2023 at 9:46 AM Ben Schwartz wrote: > I wanted to remind DNSOP to take another look

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: Consistency for CDS/CDNSKEY and CSYNC is Mandatory

2023-06-21 Thread Tim Wicinski
of larger issues thanks tim On Wed, Jun 7, 2023 at 11:52 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All, > > We've had this document in DNSOP for a bit and Peter has presented three > different meetings. When I went back and looked at the minutes, the > feedback was good. But when the

[DNSOP] Multiple drafts discussing the use of DNS NOTIFY

2023-06-10 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The chairs have been looking at two different drafts discussing the use of using DNS NOTIFY to update DNSSEC information. The two drafts are: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-thomassen-dnsop-generalized-dns-notify-01 https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-dsawp-notify-00

Re: [DNSOP] Current status of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-validator-requirements

2023-06-07 Thread Tim Wicinski
, May 29, 2023 at 6:58 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All, > > The chairs want to thank everyone for the feedback on this document > recently. We've been in discussions with Warren and the authors about this > document, and we have some questions we'd like the working group to

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: Consistency for CDS/CDNSKEY and CSYNC is Mandatory

2023-06-07 Thread Tim Wicinski
, review, etc. This call for adoption ends: 21 June 2023 Thanks, tim wicinski For DNSOP co-chairs Minutes from past meetings on "Consistency for CDS/CDNSKEY and CSYNC is Mandatory" 114 Mark: CDS records are no different than any others One NS might be down, which

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-klh-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-06-07 Thread Tim Wicinski
All Thanks for the feedback on the call for adoption for this document. The call for adoption has completed and the chairs consider this work adopted. thanks tim On Wed, May 24, 2023 at 10:01 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > The authors for RFC8109 have made some updates to th

[DNSOP] Fwd: NomCom 2023 Call for Volunteers

2023-06-06 Thread Tim Wicinski
DNSOP/DPRIVE Martin Thompson is chairing this year's version of the IETF Nominating Committee. It's a good thing to volunteer, and I can speak strongly on the fact that 10+ years of volunteering, and I have not been selected(*). tim (8) Now that I've said that -- Forwarded message

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-klh-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-05-31 Thread Tim Wicinski
 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > The authors for RFC8109 have made some updates to their document > "Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries", and are looking to > have the > work adopted by DNSOP. > > You can see the changes made since RFC8109 here

[DNSOP] Current status of draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-validator-requirements

2023-05-29 Thread Tim Wicinski
All, The chairs want to thank everyone for the feedback on this document recently. We've been in discussions with Warren and the authors about this document, and we have some questions we'd like the working group to help us resolve. While this work was relevant when it was first written and

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-klh-dnsop-rfc8109bis

2023-05-24 Thread Tim Wicinski
t, clearly stating your view. Please also indicate if you are willing to contribute text, review, etc. This call for adoption ends: 7 June 2023 Thanks, tim wicinski For DNSOP co-chairs ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition

2023-05-01 Thread Tim Wicinski
For the record I agree strongly with Paul here. Tim, as co-chair but my hat hides my hair On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 12:10 PM Paul Hoffman wrote: > It would be grand if a bunch more people would speak up on this thread. > > --Paul Hoffman, wearing my co-author hat > > On Apr 27, 2023, at 1:05 PM,

Re: [DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping-04.txt

2023-05-01 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The chairs have been coming to the consensus that this document is very close/ready for working group last call. if there are any thoughts, reviews, etc anyone has, please share. thanks tim On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 5:40 AM Peter Thomassen wrote: > Dear DNSOP, > > The news for this revision

Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: Compact Denial of Existence in DNSSEC

2023-04-27 Thread Tim Wicinski
Tim Wicinski wrote: > > Happy Monday (UTC) All, > > The chairs heard some strong support to adopt and work on this. > > This starts a Call for Adoption for draft-huque-dnsop-compact-lies > > The authors did do some updates in the draft around the "lies" moniker.

Re: [DNSOP] WGLC for draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion

2023-04-27 Thread Tim Wicinski
(speaking as a chair) On Thu, Apr 27, 2023 at 5:22 PM John R Levine wrote: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2023, Miek Gieben wrote: > >> I think it's an interesting idea but I also don't want to spend time on > it > >> if it's just going to be filed and forgotten. > > > > I looked into this for

[DNSOP] Call for Adoption: Compact Denial of Existence in DNSSEC

2023-04-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
ibute text, review, etc. This call for adoption ends: April 29, 2023 Thanks, tim wicinski For DNSOP co-chairs ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

[DNSOP] Minutes from 116 and Chairs Actions

2023-04-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
30, 2023 Chairs: Benno Overeinder, Suzanne Woolf, Tim Wicinski (remote) Minutes taken by Paul Hoffman Only stuff said that happened at the mic is reported here Administrivia and updates of old work GNU Name System (Very Short Update), Christian Grothoff https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc

Re: [DNSOP] Feedback on draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques-01

2023-03-31 Thread Tim Wicinski
Erik/Shumon/Authors I left Erik's great comments in https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques/issues/50 so we don't lose them. Thanks Erik ! This is great stuff. And I forgot I could request early reviews, which I now have done with SECDIR and ARTART tim

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-glue-is-not-optional-07 vs. sibling glue

2023-03-29 Thread Tim Wicinski
To follow up with Shumon and Duane's comments, the title of the document was changed over time to "DNS Glue Requirements in Referral Responses" to more accurately reflect the document's contents. The datatracker name did not change to reflect that. tim On Tue, Mar 28, 2023 at 9:58 PM Wessels,

Re: [DNSOP] Additional Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http

2023-03-18 Thread Tim Wicinski
everyone for their patience tim On Sat, Mar 11, 2023 at 3:44 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > The SVCB document has been returned from the RFC Editor, and we thank > Warren for doing all the crazy process stuff to make this happen. The > authors have made the

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-12

2023-03-18 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-12 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https/ ___ DNSOP mailing

[DNSOP] Additional Working Group Last Call for draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-http

2023-03-11 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The SVCB document has been returned from the RFC Editor, and we thank Warren for doing all the crazy process stuff to make this happen. The authors have made the changes - removing the references to ECH (and I thank them for doing this quickly and efficiently). They are creating a separate

[DNSOP] Publication has been requested for draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-21

2023-03-03 Thread Tim Wicinski via Datatracker
Tim Wicinski has requested publication of draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-21 as Proposed Standard on behalf of the DNSOP working group. Please verify the document's state at https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld/ ___ DNSOP mailing list

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Breaking the logjam that is draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https

2023-02-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
I agree with the "ecb-in-svcb" document over a -bis, as the (soon to exist) registry states only expert review. The one thing we have not discussed is Warren's comment [0] Possibly modulo the annoyingly painful "AliasMode clarification" change:

Re: [DNSOP] Breaking the logjam that is draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https

2023-02-23 Thread Tim Wicinski
Thanks Warren for chasing all this process. Tim On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 12:54 PM Joe Abley wrote: > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 12:39, Warren Kumari wrote: > > Instead of just having all of these document stuck indefinitely, I'm > proposing that we: > 1: Ask the RFC Editor to return the

Re: [DNSOP] QDCOUNT > 1 (a modest proposal)

2023-02-22 Thread Tim Wicinski
(as a chair) On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 9:09 PM Joe Abley wrote: > On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 21:01, Ted Lemon wrote: > > No, my main objection to the current draft is that it’s dismissing the > problem I raised. > > > Could you restate the problem? > > You mentioned that you thought the ambiguity

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for "DNS Terminology" (draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc8499bis)

2023-02-17 Thread Tim Wicinski
(speaking without a hat) I think this includes some good updates around the definition of Glue, and not because we've spent many hours wordsmithing this. I would like to see some folks who have commented about the definitions in the past, review these changes. Thanks the authors for their

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for "Domain Verification Techniques using DNS"

2023-02-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
that this is changed to a BCP. As an operator, the chairs would love to hear feedback pro or con on their views on this. The WGLC will still end on March 2nd, 2023 On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:06 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > OH Apologies. > > I had felt the authors published their new vers

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for "Domain Verification Techniques using DNS"

2023-02-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
OH Apologies. I had felt the authors published their new version, but I sent the wrong draft message out. Please ignore this and I'll stop trying to be useful today tim On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 12:04 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > All > > The authors and the chairs feel this document

[DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for "Domain Verification Techniques using DNS"

2023-02-16 Thread Tim Wicinski
All The authors and the chairs feel this document has reached the stage where it's ready for Working Group Last Call. This starts a Working Group Last Call for: draft-ietf-dnsop-domain-verification-techniques Current versions of the draft is available here:

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