Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: New draft for consideration:

2019-03-25 Thread Ted Lemon
Bonjour uses DNS or mDNS. If it’s using DNS, it can in principle use DoT or DoH, and indeed “Back to my Mac” was using DoT before it was specified in an RFC. That functionality is still in the open source mDNSResponder code. I realize that this is somewhat tangential to the point you were making b

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: New draft for consideration:

2019-03-24 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 at 17:17, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > > > On Mar 24, 2019, at 08:59, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > > > On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 at 11:46, Paul Hoffman wrote: > >> >> > I'm also not too hot for conflating "user consciously changes >> > /etc/resolv.conf or equivalent" with "application mak

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: New draft for consideration:

2019-03-24 Thread Joel Jaeggli
> On Mar 24, 2019, at 08:59, Matthew Pounsett wrote: > > > >> On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 at 11:46, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> >> > I'm also not too hot for conflating "user consciously changes >> > /etc/resolv.conf or equivalent" with "application makes the choice for the >> > user". >> >> The split

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: New draft for consideration:

2019-03-24 Thread Matthew Pounsett
On Sun, 24 Mar 2019 at 11:46, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > > I'm also not too hot for conflating "user consciously changes > > /etc/resolv.conf or equivalent" with "application makes the choice for > the > > user". > > The split here is more "someone changes from traditional without the user > knowing

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: New draft for consideration:

2019-03-24 Thread Olli Vanhoja
I don't like it either because DAO is a well known acronym for Data Access Object. On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 12:49 PM Warren Kumari wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 11:46 AM Paul Hoffman > wrote: > >> On Mar 24, 2019, at 11:18 AM, bert hubert >> wrote: >> > It may be good to add a note that

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: New draft for consideration:

2019-03-24 Thread Brian Dickson
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 4:49 AM Warren Kumari wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 11:46 AM Paul Hoffman > wrote: > >> On Mar 24, 2019, at 11:18 AM, bert hubert >> wrote: >> > It may be good to add a note that "DoH is the protocol as defined in >> > [RFC8484]. The operation of this protocol by

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: New draft for consideration:

2019-03-24 Thread Warren Kumari
On Sun, Mar 24, 2019 at 11:46 AM Paul Hoffman wrote: > On Mar 24, 2019, at 11:18 AM, bert hubert > wrote: > > It may be good to add a note that "DoH is the protocol as defined in > > [RFC8484]. The operation of this protocol by browser vendors and cloud > > providers is frequently also called 'D

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Re: New draft for consideration:

2019-03-24 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 24, 2019, at 11:18 AM, bert hubert wrote: > It may be good to add a note that "DoH is the protocol as defined in > [RFC8484]. The operation of this protocol by browser vendors and cloud > providers is frequently also called 'DoH'. DoH-the-protocol is > therefore frequently conflated with Do