Re: [DNSOP] Delegation acceptance checks [was: Re: [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition]

2023-05-05 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, May 05, 2023 at 4:39 AM, Peter Thomassen wrote: > On 5/4/23 20:07, Havard Eidnes wrote: > > As an example, it's quite common for people to register a domain and point > the DNS at some nameservers which they don't control, and have no > relationship with. > > If this is common, I'm

Re: [DNSOP] Delegation acceptance checks [was: Re: [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition]

2023-05-05 Thread Mark Delany
On 05May23, Warren Kumari apparently wrote: > I think that a parent should check if the name servers that are > being proposed actually answer for the domain[0], and strongly > suggest (but do not prevent) that that be fixed[1]. "Strongly suggest" is definitely as far as I would go because you

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition

2023-05-05 Thread Edward Lewis
On 5/4/23, 5:08 AM, "DNSOP on behalf of Mark Delany" wrote: > >I have one last question. Regardless of whether we agree precisely on what > "lame" means, >what is the call to action when a zone or its name servers are declared > lame? > >And how is that different from any other form

Re: [DNSOP] Delegation acceptance checks

2023-05-05 Thread Havard Eidnes
>> I imagine that others also spend time on sorting out these entirely >> unnecessary issues. If guidance were developed on delegation acceptance >> checks, > > Well, yes... but where? ccNSO, perhaps? My advice would be to only enforce checks where violations would negatively impact operations

Re: [DNSOP] Delegation acceptance checks [was: Re: [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition]

2023-05-05 Thread Joe Abley
Hi Peter, On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 04:39, Peter Thomassen <[pe...@desec.io](mailto:On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 04:39, Peter Thomassen < wrote: >> Having the delegating party check for service for the requested zone >> at time of delegation request and refuse to update / register if >> this check fails

Re: [DNSOP] Delegation acceptance checks [was: Re: [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition]

2023-05-05 Thread Brian Dickson
On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 11:46 AM Joe Abley wrote: > Hi Peter, > > On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 04:39, Peter Thomassen > wrote: > > > Having the delegating party check for service for the requested zone > > at time of delegation request and refuse to update / register if > > this check fails > > It

[DNSOP] Delegation acceptance checks [was: Re: [Ext] WGLC rfc8499bis one week extension for lame delegation definition]

2023-05-05 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 5/4/23 20:07, Havard Eidnes wrote: As an example, it's quite common for people to register a domain and point the DNS at some nameservers which they don't control, and have no relationship with. If this is common, I'm abhorred. Having the delegating party check for service for the