Re: [DNSOP] (no subject)

2014-04-14 Thread Antoin Verschuren
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 op 11-04-14 23:12, Warren Kumari schreef: Can folk please let us know if they would prefer: A: The child SHOULD remove the CDS/CDNSKEY RR from the zone once the parent has published it (currently documented behavior) or B: The child SHOULD NOT

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance

2014-04-14 Thread Antoin Verschuren
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 op 12-04-14 00:06, Warren Kumari schreef: The parent should use whichever one they choose, but MUST NOT query for both and perform consistency checks between the CDS and CDNSKEY records. A parent MUST NOT perform a consistency check between CDS

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance

2014-04-14 Thread Antoin Verschuren
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 op 10-04-14 21:54, Patrik Fältström schreef: We already have too many parents that have I do not know how many stupid rules for what various values must be in the child hosting situation, and in many cases that make it plain impossible to do what

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance - should child remove the CDS RR?

2014-04-14 Thread Antoin Verschuren
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 op 12-04-14 09:28, Patrik Fältström schreef: No, I want B. That CDS and CDNSKEY is staying in the zone. To keep it in the same thread, I want: C: The child MAY remove the CDS/CDNSKEY RR from the zone once the parent has published it, and this is

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance - should child remove the CDS RR?

2014-04-14 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 14 apr 2014, at 14:32, Antoin Verschuren antoin.verschu...@sidn.nl wrote: op 12-04-14 09:28, Patrik Fältström schreef: No, I want B. That CDS and CDNSKEY is staying in the zone. To keep it in the same thread, I want: C: The child MAY remove the CDS/CDNSKEY RR from the zone once the

[DNSOP] Spinning out of scope on draft-...-delegation-trust...

2014-04-14 Thread Edward Lewis
Perhaps again I’ll be labelled as a potential troll for this. Again, using an example for a non-specific comment... On Apr 14, 2014, at 7:09, one person wrote: At 10-04-14 21:54, someone else: We already have too many parents that have I do not know how many stupid rules for ... While

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance - should child remove the CDS RR?

2014-04-14 Thread Matthijs Mekking
On 04/14/2014 02:32 PM, Antoin Verschuren wrote: op 12-04-14 09:28, Patrik Fältström schreef: No, I want B. That CDS and CDNSKEY is staying in the zone. To keep it in the same thread, I want: C: The child MAY remove the CDS/CDNSKEY RR from the zone once the parent has published it, and

Re: [DNSOP] Spinning out of scope on draft-...-delegation-trust...

2014-04-14 Thread Matthijs Mekking
On 04/14/2014 03:05 PM, Edward Lewis wrote: I think it is silly to burn two RR types to communicate the same thing. You’re inviting debate on testing and handling the two being out of sync. Would you prefer one RR type with varying RDATA format (like with IPSECKEY)? I don't. Best regards,

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance - should child remove the CDS RR?

2014-04-14 Thread Tim Wicinski
On 4/14/14, 8:50 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote: On 14 apr 2014, at 14:32, Antoin Verschuren antoin.verschu...@sidn.nl wrote: op 12-04-14 09:28, Patrik Fältström schreef: No, I want B. That CDS and CDNSKEY is staying in the zone. To keep it in the same thread, I want: C: The child MAY remove

Re: [DNSOP] Spinning out of scope on draft-...-delegation-trust...

2014-04-14 Thread Patrik Fältström
On 14 apr 2014, at 15:16, Matthijs Mekking matth...@nlnetlabs.nl wrote: On 04/14/2014 03:05 PM, Edward Lewis wrote: I think it is silly to burn two RR types to communicate the same thing. You’re inviting debate on testing and handling the two being out of sync. Would you prefer one RR

Re: [DNSOP] Spinning out of scope on draft-...-delegation-trust...

2014-04-14 Thread Tim Wicinski
On 4/14/14, 9:21 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote: On 14 apr 2014, at 15:16, Matthijs Mekking matth...@nlnetlabs.nl wrote: On 04/14/2014 03:05 PM, Edward Lewis wrote: I think it is silly to burn two RR types to communicate the same thing. You’re inviting debate on testing and handling the two

Re: [DNSOP] Spinning out of scope on draft-...-delegation-trust...

2014-04-14 Thread Edward Lewis
In the world of trade-offs: Having one record: 1) Can retrieve it in one query 2) Easier to specify what to publish and what to read 3) Parsing involved inspection of RDATA Having two records: 1) Need two queries or rely on ANY 2) Have to explain to the client what to publish, server has to

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance - should child remove the CDS RR?

2014-04-14 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Tim Wicinski tjw.i...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/14/14, 8:50 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote: On 14 apr 2014, at 14:32, Antoin Verschuren antoin.verschu...@sidn.nl wrote: op 12-04-14 09:28, Patrik Fältström schreef: No, I want B. That CDS and CDNSKEY is staying in

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance - should child remove the CDS RR?

2014-04-14 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Warren Kumari war...@kumari.net wrote: On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Tim Wicinski tjw.i...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/14/14, 8:50 AM, Patrik Fältström wrote: On 14 apr 2014, at 14:32, Antoin Verschuren antoin.verschu...@sidn.nl wrote: op 12-04-14 09:28,

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance-06.txt

2014-04-14 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations Working Group of the IETF. Title : Automating DNSSEC Delegation Trust Maintenance Authors : Warren Kumari

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance - should child remove the CDS RR?

2014-04-14 Thread 神明達哉
At Mon, 14 Apr 2014 15:10:56 +0200, Matthijs Mekking matth...@nlnetlabs.nl wrote: C: The child MAY remove the CDS/CDNSKEY RR from the zone once the parent has published it, and this is how to do that safely. So I'm ok if they stay in, but we need a way to get them out for the ones that

Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last call for draft-ietf-dnsop-delegation-trust-maintainance

2014-04-14 Thread Warren Kumari
On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 7:09 AM, Antoin Verschuren antoin.verschu...@sidn.nl wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 op 10-04-14 21:54, Patrik Fältström schreef: We already have too many parents that have I do not know how many stupid rules for what various values must be in

[DNSOP] draft-mglt-dnsop-search-list-processing-00.txt

2014-04-14 Thread Daniel Migault
Hi folks, Please find draft-mglt-dnsop-search-list-processing-00.txt [1] This draft comes in the context of generic TLD with possible naming collision. In order to keep naming resolution stable and reliable, it describes 1) how resolver should generate their search list, 2) how resolver should

Re: [DNSOP] draft-mglt-dnsop-search-list-processing-00.txt

2014-04-14 Thread Mark Andrews
In message CADZyTkn2Wau99zfQR+jjwHVr4Jnq3Eo=Ht+OEScbvKBLc=7...@mail.gmail.com , Daniel Migault writes: Hi folks, Please find draft-mglt-dnsop-search-list-processing-00.txt [1] This draft comes in the context of generic TLD with possible naming collision. In order to keep naming

[DNSOP] EDNS version 1

2014-04-14 Thread Mark Andrews
http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-andrews-edns1-00.txt -- Mark Andrews, ISC 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org