Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-16: please review

2022-08-19 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 20/08/2022 01:55, Warren Kumari wrote: On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 5:46 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: Hiya, On 19/08/2022 20:43, Warren Kumari wrote: So, it is perfectly acceptable (in my view) for it to have: Reference Name - a-cool-document foo.alt

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-16: please review

2022-08-19 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 5:46 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: > Hiya, > > On 19/08/2022 20:43, Warren Kumari wrote: > > So, it is perfectly acceptable (in my view) for it to have: > > Reference Name > - > a-cool-document foo.alt > another-document foo.alt >

[DNSOP] [Errata Verified] RFC8552 (7064)

2022-08-19 Thread RFC Errata System
The following errata report has been verified for RFC8552, "Scoped Interpretation of DNS Resource Records through "Underscored" Naming of Attribute Leaves". -- You may review the report below and at: https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid7064

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-16: please review

2022-08-19 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 19/08/2022 20:43, Warren Kumari wrote: So, it is perfectly acceptable (in my view) for it to have: ReferenceName - a-cool-document foo.alt another-documentfoo.alt yet-another-doc bar.alt I agree that such duplicate

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-16: please review

2022-08-19 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 2:06 PM, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Fri, 19 Aug 2022, Paul Hoffman wrote: > > Support and opposition are welcome, but suggested text changes are even > more welcome. Once we get this right, Warren and I will ask for another WG > Last Call so that it can move on. > > NIT: I

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-16: please review

2022-08-19 Thread Michael StJohns
On 8/19/2022 3:30 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: DNS resolvers that serve the DNS protocol and non-DNS protocols at the same time MUST resolve .alt names using the non-DNS protocols. It was written the current way as a way to alert developers who are using the Locally-Served DNS Zones registry

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-16: please review

2022-08-19 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Aug 19, 2022, at 11:06 AM, Paul Wouters wrote: > Section 2: > > DNS resolvers that serve the DNS protocol and non-DNS protocols at > the same time might consider .alt like an entry in the "Transport- > Independent Locally-Served DNS Zone Registry" that is part of IANA's >

Re: [DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-16: please review

2022-08-19 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022, Paul Hoffman wrote: Support and opposition are welcome, but suggested text changes are even more welcome. Once we get this right, Warren and I will ask for another WG Last Call so that it can move on. NIT: I think the abstract should mention any IANA registries created.

Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and namespace mechanisms

2022-08-19 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
> On 19. Aug 2022, at 17:06, Schanzenbach, Martin > wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Hi Brian, > > thank you for the feedback. > >> On 19. Aug 2022, at 16:46, Brian Dickson >> wrote: >> >> One tidbit that might have been overlooked, is that draft-schanzen-gns (and >> the various documents

Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and namespace mechanisms

2022-08-19 Thread Schanzenbach, Martin
Hi Brian, thank you for the feedback. > On 19. Aug 2022, at 16:46, Brian Dickson > wrote: > > One tidbit that might have been overlooked, is that draft-schanzen-gns (and > the various documents it references, including stuff in github) has a > technical problem. > > The TL;DR: is that

Re: [DNSOP] draft-schanzen-gns and namespace mechanisms

2022-08-19 Thread Brian Dickson
One tidbit that might have been overlooked, is that draft-schanzen-gns (and the various documents it references, including stuff in github) has a technical problem. The TL;DR: is that nsswitch (and similar systems) depend on individual resolution mechanisms (whatever those may be) returning

[DNSOP] draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-16: please review

2022-08-19 Thread Paul Hoffman
Greetings again. The recent traffic on the list shows a strong interest in reviving draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld, hopefully to get it out of the WG and into the IETF, then publication as an RFC. In the past, the WG has gotten quite borked on some of the details in the draft, many of which were not

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-alt-tld-16.txt

2022-08-19 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : The ALT Special Use Top Level Domain Authors : Warren Kumari Paul

Re: [DNSOP] Anything goes in ALT, was On ALT-TLD, GNS, and namespaces...

2022-08-19 Thread John R Levine
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022, Stephen Farrell wrote: domains at IANA. FWIW, that doesn't describe where I've so far landed on this. It omits the requirement that there be an RFC for each entry. As I've said several times, most recently yesterday, if we make people jump through hoops to put their

Re: [DNSOP] Anything goes in ALT, was On ALT-TLD, GNS, and namespaces...

2022-08-19 Thread Stephen Farrell
Hiya, On 19/08/2022 14:35, Paul Wouters wrote: Okay, so I understood that you want to run a yellow pages for non-DNS domains at IANA. FWIW, that doesn't describe where I've so far landed on this. It omits the requirement that there be an RFC for each entry. That IMO does mean such a

Re: [DNSOP] Anything goes in ALT, was On ALT-TLD, GNS, and namespaces...

2022-08-19 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 19 Aug 2022, John R Levine wrote: I could have been clearer. The names can be duplicates, not the rest of the entry. So someone comes along and registers web.alt with a pointer to her thing, then someone else comes along with a different thing but also calls it web.alt, and we

Re: [DNSOP] Anything goes in ALT, was On ALT-TLD, GNS, and namespaces...

2022-08-19 Thread John R Levine
I could have been clearer. The names can be duplicates, not the rest of the entry. So someone comes along and registers web.alt with a pointer to her thing, then someone else comes along with a different thing but also calls it web.alt, and we another entry in the registry. What does the

Re: [DNSOP] On ALT-TLD, GNS, and namespaces...

2022-08-19 Thread Timothy Mcsweeney
> On 08/18/2022 10:17 PM EDT Ben Schwartz > wrote: > > Perhaps you haven't been following the W3C DID process [1]? The > "registrable .alt" proposal closely resembles the functionality of the DID > "method" system, and you can see the registrations that have poured in > there [2]. I note