Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] no regitry for you, Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread Eliot Lear
On 23.10.22 05:40, John Levine wrote: It appears that Eliot Lear said: As a matter of practicality, a registry surely will be form.  It is simply a matter of whether the IANA will host it.  If the IANA does not host it, then by shifting it elsewhere this group is actually weakening the IANA

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread Martin Schanzenbach
On 21.10.22 18:48, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > > > > Rather than placing "alt" in the TLD position, I think it might be better > > as a scheme modifier: https+alt://... This is a common pattern for > > modifications to URI schemes (c.f. git+ssh://), and informs the software > > that this URI is

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] no regitry for you, Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread Suzanne Woolf
Eliot, On Oct 23, 2022, at 2:15 AM, Eliot Lear mailto:l...@lear.ch>> wrote: On 23.10.22 05:40, John Levine wrote: It appears that Eliot Lear mailto:l...@lear.ch>> said: As a matter of practicality, a registry surely will be form. It is simply a matter of whether the IANA will host it. If

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] no regitry for you, Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread Martin Schanzenbach
On 23.10.22 10:50, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > Eliot, > > On Oct 23, 2022, at 2:15 AM, Eliot Lear mailto:l...@lear.ch>> > wrote: > > > On 23.10.22 05:40, John Levine wrote: > It appears that Eliot Lear mailto:l...@lear.ch>> said: > As a matter of practicality, a registry surely will be form. It

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread Paul Vixie
Martin Schanzenbach wrote on 2022-10-23 04:34: ... Name notion of a "user expectation" for names was thrown around a lot. Using +alt://example.com or +gns://example.com is actually making it worse with respect to that aspect than .alt as SUTLD, no? yes. It is as if we are chasing a moving

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] no regitry for you, Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread Paul Vixie
Martin Schanzenbach wrote on 2022-10-23 04:38: On 23.10.22 10:50, Suzanne Woolf wrote: ... The chairs would like to hear it if anyone has anything new to say about such a registry on its technical merits, including specific registry policy and operational challenges with administering it

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] no regitry for you, Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread David Conrad
Suzanne, On Oct 23, 2022, at 3:50 AM, Suzanne Woolf wrote: > We've been told repeatedly that no one wants to engage legal analysis or > liaison communications on a document that doesn't have WG consensus. This appears broken. In this specific case, the way forward appears to be predicated on

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis-12.txt

2022-10-23 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations WG of the IETF. Title : Use of GOST 2012 Signature Algorithms in DNSKEY and RRSIG Resource Records for DNSSEC Authors

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread Paul Vixie
David Conrad wrote on 2022-10-23 12:00: Rob, not rod, but i have three comments. On this mailing list, I think there is a pretty good understanding of the intent of .alt and I don’t think there is much in the way of disagreement on that intent. As far as I can tell, the points of

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis-10

2022-10-23 Thread Warren Kumari
On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 2:54 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 12:41 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 7:22 AM, Paul Hoffman >> wrote: >> >>> On Oct 18, 2022, at 7:58 AM, Ron Even wrote: >>> >>> 1. whis is this an informational RFC and not a standard track

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-rfc5933-bis-10

2022-10-23 Thread Boris Makarenko
Hello, Warren Just uploaded the 12th version. The only change is status of GOST R 34.11-94 -- DEPRECATED. -- Boris 23.10.2022 18:20, Warren Kumari пишет: On Fri, Oct 21, 2022 at 2:54 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Wed, Oct 19, 2022 at 12:41 PM, Warren Kumari

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread David Conrad
Rob, On Oct 22, 2022, at 10:33 AM, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote: > As I read it, the partitioning of the domain name namespace is really to > achieve two aims: On this mailing list, I think there is a pretty good understanding of the intent of .alt and I don’t think there is much in the way of

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Oct 23, 2022, at 12:00 PM, David Conrad wrote: > On this mailing list, I think there is a pretty good understanding of the > intent of .alt and I don’t think there is much in the way of disagreement on > that intent. As far as I can tell, the points of contention are: > > 1) whether the

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Ben and Wes, On 21.10.22 20:45, Ben Schwartz wrote: Rather than placing "alt" in the TLD position, I think it might be better as a scheme modifier: https+alt://...  This is a common pattern  for modifications to URI schemes (c.f. git+ssh://), and informs the software that this URI is

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Possible alt-tld last call?

2022-10-23 Thread David Conrad
Paul, On Oct 23, 2022, at 1:27 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote: >> 1) Ask the stupid question. > Again? It has already been answered many times in the negative. There are > even RFCs about it. Asking it again is a waste of people's time. I’m unaware. Could you point me to the ICANN Board resolution,