Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-23 Thread toki
On 22/01/2016 02:30, Keith N. McKenna wrote: >> How justifiable is it to disparage what is currently going on when doing nothing to alleviate the problem. I realize that there are some who think that pointing out that there is no new product, is disparaging of the organization that did not make

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-21 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Keith N. McKenna wrote: Personally I had enough political and turf battles when I worked in the corporate world; I certainly do not need them now Sure. You are coordinating volunteers here without the need of any formal structure. No need for any structure. Volunteers are here, we had more

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Response below, > >> -Original Message- From: Keith N. McKenna >> [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 20, >> 2016 18:39 To: doc@openoffice.apache.org Subject: Re: Rebooting the >> Documentation Effort &

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Keith N. McKenna wrote: >> Personally I had enough political and turf battles when I >> worked in the corporate world; I certainly do not need them now > > Sure. You are coordinating volunteers here without the need of any > formal structure. No need for any structure.

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-21 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 21/01/2016 19:47, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > this license or that license, ASF pretty much dictates that the Apache License be used. >wiki based or not etc etc. ad infinitum. That is a clash of psycho-epistemological Weltanschauung. A clash that

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna
toki wrote: > On 21/01/2016 23:26, Keith N. McKenna wrote: > >> Actually that is incorrect. > > You're not looking at psycho-demographic groups, based upon their > preferred formats for receiving new data. > > What the documentation states it is focused upon means squat. > >> but if you are

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-21 Thread Keith N. McKenna
toki wrote: > On 20/01/2016 23:02, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > >> I think that having a structure for contributors finding work and also > finding any guidance they need is a great idea. > > One individual whose sole function is to say: "Do this", and then > follows up weekly, to see how "this"

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-20 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Charter reasons that there is even that much structure, such as > every project having a Chair that is an Officer of the Foundation. > > >> -Original Message- >> From: Dave [mailto:davepo...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 14:21 >> To: doc@openof

RE: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Response below, > -Original Message- > From: Keith N. McKenna [mailto:keith.mcke...@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 18:39 > To: doc@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort [ ... ] > > It is all well and good to talk

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-20 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 20/01/2016 23:02, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I think that having a structure for contributors finding work and also finding any guidance they need is a great idea. One individual whose sole function is to say: "Do this", and then follows up

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-20 Thread Keith N. McKenna
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > [bcc: dev@] > > Hi Keith, > > I have belatedly noticed your efforts to reboot the documentation > effort, first in April and again in December, 2015. > > I commend you on this. Thank You Dennis, I appreciate it. > > While people raise their hands, we don't seem to

RE: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-20 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
davepo...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2016 14:21 > To: doc@openoffice.apache.org > Subject: Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort > > Hi all, > > I think we do need a group of half a dozen people with a lot of > experience > of the project to distribute the wo

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-18 Thread toki
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 18/01/2016 22:22, David Lloyd-Jones wrote: > Fundamentally, why should software need documenting? AOo obviously includes all of the functionality that is requested in 3959. Making use of that functionality is highly non-obvious, and arguably

Re: Rebooting the Documentation Effort

2016-01-18 Thread David Lloyd-Jones
Dennis & Keith, I think one of the problems in the world now is that there is too much documentation. Fundamentally, why should software need documenting? We don't document doors or refrigerators, stairs or elevators. I blame it all on Jimmy Carter and the Nobel folks: he got the Israelis and