Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Dan Lewis: does GS with Base need more review?

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 21:48, Dan Lewis wrote: > On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 19:18 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: >> Dan, >> >> I know you corrected some errors in the Getting Started with Base >> chapter, and they are in the file that's on Alfresco. In your opinion, >> does that file need further review for

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
Oops, I sent this to a wrong address. Trying again. --Jean On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 11:00, Jean Weber wrote: > On the documentation list, I proposed changing the license for NEW > docs from the legacy licensing (carried over from the OOo user guides > that were revised for LO) to a different licen

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
On the documentation list, I proposed changing the license for NEW docs from the legacy licensing (carried over from the OOo user guides that were revised for LO) to a different license. The proposal has generated quite a bit of discussion. David Nelson suggested that we should involve the Board in

[libreoffice-documentation] Our books on Lulu.com

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
If you've been thinking about buying printed copies of the LibreOffice 3.3 books, or anything else that's sold on Lulu.com, today is a good time to order them. Lulu is having a "Cyber Monday" sale. Here's what their website says: "Enter coupon code CYBERMONDAY at checkout and receive 30% off your

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Hello

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
I've now moved your name (and Martin's name) to the "Checkout" column, which means you're working on the chapter. My mistake for Martin's name being in the wrong column. When the chapter is reviewed and checked back in, then you remove your name from the checkout column and put it in the drafts/rev

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Anyone else to do some updating?

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
On Alfresco, the path is Repository > English > Documentation > Getting Started Guide > Draft To check out a file, hover over the filename until some icons and the word "More" appear to the right. Click More and choose "Edit Offline". I'll be offline for a few hours, so if you have further questi

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Anyone else to do some updating?

2011-11-27 Thread Patrick Carbone
Hi All, I will take a look at updating Chapter 14 Customizing. I'll check under that file folder and see if I find it. I am looking in the Drafts sub-folder so please re-direct me if that is incorrect. Thanks! Patrick On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
Ah, yes... I wasn't talking about reassignment, and failed to note Jay's use of the term. Perhaps he actually meant "relicense"? It's so easy to get tangled up in the terminology... --Jean On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 07:18, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Reassignment is different than adding a license

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
We're actually talking about *LibreOffice* docs here, which are not being done (in English) on the ODFAuthors website. Though I guess there are implications for translations of LO docs that are being done through ODFAuthors, so that is a good point to consider... one that I had not previously thoug

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 22:18:33 schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: > Reassignment is different than adding a license or providing the material > under an additional/different license. > > Reassignment is about copyright. Let's not go there. that would something that would not work in some

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Dennis, Jean, *, thus I see no need to change the licensing or double-license with ALv2. There is no need to do the work outsite the current platform ODFAuthors.org. The contributors to the OOo documentation are familar with that CMS and it's workflow. Regards, Andreas Am Sonntag, 27. Nov

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Anyone else to do some updating?

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 07:14, Patrick Carbone wrote: > Thank you Jean!  What is the right way to get into the draft versions of > the documentation?  I can find the published versions in a lot of places, > but I must be passing over the links where I can work on or edit anything > in progress. D

RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Reassignment is different than adding a license or providing the material under an additional/different license. Reassignment is about copyright. Let's not go there. Still, offering a license from a multiple-author work does raise issues about the arrangement among those authors and how such t

RE: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
CC-SA wasn't discussed, just the consequences of using ALv2, and whether that had any connection with iCLA that are used in the case of Apache projects. Note that the Apache determination concerning CC-SA acceptability only covers distribution without modification. That probably does not matter

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Anyone else to do some updating?

2011-11-27 Thread Patrick Carbone
Thank you Jean! What is the right way to get into the draft versions of the documentation? I can find the published versions in a lot of places, but I must be passing over the links where I can work on or edit anything in progress. Or do I just begin writing and submit it back? I found various

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Anyone else to do some updating?

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
Thanks, Patrick, and welcome to the team! I'm referring to the user guide chapters as listed on this page: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development#Getting_Started_Guide Or chapters in any of the other books on that page (Writer, etc). Those being worked on have people's names

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Anyone else to do some updating?

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
Excellent! And thank you. May I suggest you start with Chapter 12, Creating Web Pages, in the Getting Started Guide. I have not identified any additions or changes needed to the text, but I often miss small things, so it needs to be checked against v3.4.4 and have some other work done, as listed at

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Anyone else to do some updating?

2011-11-27 Thread Patrick Carbone
Which articles are specifically being referenced here? I'd be glad to jump in on a couple (I just signed up today so if there was a list earlier in the thread I may have missed it, my apologies). I'm still digging through the Doc Foundation Wiki, but hopefully I'll be registered and set up soon.

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Anyone else to do some updating?

2011-11-27 Thread emma lauder
I'd be glad to. I'm an admittedly wary newbie and a project like this sounds like a great place to start. Cheers, Emma On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Jean Weber wrote: > A bunch of new people have joined recently. That's great. Some of you > are working on chapters. That's even better, and I

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Hello

2011-11-27 Thread Dan Lewis
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 09:51 -0300, Gabo wrote: > On 11/27/2011 06:26 AM, Jean Weber wrote: > > Hmm... I don't see anything in the wiki for any of the Calc chapters > > except the one Martin's working on. Are we on the same page? --Jean > > http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Develop

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Hello

2011-11-27 Thread Gabo
On 11/27/2011 06:26 AM, Jean Weber wrote: Hmm... I don't see anything in the wiki for any of the Calc chapters except the one Martin's working on. Are we on the same page? --Jean http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development (is the right url?) Under Calc Guide in the Status

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Ping Dan Lewis: does GS with Base need more review?

2011-11-27 Thread Dan Lewis
On Sun, 2011-11-27 at 19:18 +1000, Jean Weber wrote: > Dan, > > I know you corrected some errors in the Getting Started with Base > chapter, and they are in the file that's on Alfresco. In your opinion, > does that file need further review for LO 3.4? Or shall we move it > from Drafts into the Pro

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Andreas Mantke
Hi Jean, Am Sonntag, 27. November 2011, 09:33:06 schrieb Jean Weber: > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 18:20, Jay Lozier wrote: > > Sounds like it is best to stick with a Creative Commons license only for > > LO with the author(s) having the rights to reassign to others as they > > wish. The problem with

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Help for Alfresco implementation

2011-11-27 Thread Piergiorgio Lucidi
2011/11/26 David Nelson : > Hi Piergiorgio, > > Your offer is most welcome. I am working at this minute on setting up > Alfresco on its own dedicated VPS, so that people can get full > root/sudoer access to the system. I'll be posting back about progress > with this in the next few hours. Great!

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Tom Davies
Hi :) Do. Please ignore my lengthy previous email! Apols and regards from Tom :) --- On Sun, 27/11/11, Alex Thurgood wrote: > From: Alex Thurgood > Subject: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > Date: Sunday, 27 November, 2

[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Tom
Hi :) I think Alex's objections have been cleared away by Dennis's clarifications so i suspect that Alex might well be willing to contribute under dual-licensing. As i understand it the objection was something to do with individuals having to sign an agreement with Apache but Dennis said that wou

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi, David Nelson wrote on 2011-11-26 18:13: Given that we're talking about such a fundamental thing as a change of license in new LibreOffice documentation, I still reckon it would be natural to involve the BoD in discussing the idea... indeed. ;-) Can you maybe post to board-discuss? Florian

[libreoffice-documentation] Anyone else to do some updating?

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
A bunch of new people have joined recently. That's great. Some of you are working on chapters. That's even better, and I thank you! But there are still a lot of chapters to work on. Most of them don't require much in the way of writing, so they would be good for newcomers who don't feel comfortabl

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Hello

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 14:02, Gabriel Xandre wrote: > Perfect. > I saw that Martin Fox is working in a chapter, so I will start with the > first chapter (Intro) so we don't overlap. > I've already filled in the chart in the wiki. Hmm... I don't see anything in the wiki for any of the Calc chapte

[libreoffice-documentation] Ping Martin: Status of Calc Pivot Tables (formerly DataPilot) chapter?

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
Hi Martin, Have you had a chance to do any more on this chapter? (nag, nag, nag...) --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-mail to documentation+h...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.docu

[libreoffice-documentation] Ping Dan Lewis: does GS with Base need more review?

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
Dan, I know you corrected some errors in the Getting Started with Base chapter, and they are in the file that's on Alfresco. In your opinion, does that file need further review for LO 3.4? Or shall we move it from Drafts into the Proofing folder? Thanks. --Jean -- Unsubscribe instructions: E-ma

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Jean Weber
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 18:20, Jay Lozier wrote: > > Sounds like it is best to stick with a Creative Commons license only for LO > with the author(s) having the rights to reassign to others as they wish. The > problem with reassignment, if I understand copyrights, is that all the > holders must ag

Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Licensing for NEW documents

2011-11-27 Thread Jay Lozier
On 11/26/2011 09:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Sorry, I forgot to sign this so it would line-wrap for folks whose email clients won't do it for them. Also, where I say below that an iCLA is required if a contribution to an Apache project is to be made, there are other ways. A work could be