Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Version 4.2, Getting Started Guide, Chapter 3
I have edited and added to Martin's updates. Some questions remain for others to address; comments in file. Some research will be required. Also, someone else might notice other things that I missed but need to be updated. File is here: http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/feedback-lo4.2/gs4-2-ch3-styles-templates/view --Jean On Tue, Jan 14, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Martin Saffron wrote: > Hello > > I've uploaded an edited draft of GS4202. In this version, I've made the all > of the changes listed on the User Guide Tasks page > (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks). > The draft can be found here: > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.2/gs4203-stylesandtemplates/view > > I've also uploaded all the screen captures I have used. They can be found > here: > http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/gs4201-3-screen-captures/screen_captures/view > These images were captured from LO4.2 beta2 running on Windows 8.1 and were > exported to PNG format using the GIMP. Window borders have been cropped. > > If I have time this week, I will continue noting the changes introduced in > LO4.2 and updating the User Guide Tasks page. > > Regards, > > Martin > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon
What do other open source foundations use for their front cover artwork? Or is this a brand new change to the requirements? The actual license for LIbreOffice says "Copyright © 2007 Free Software Foundation, Inc." Not understanding the innerworkings of the documentation team's relationship to the corporation, wouldn't it make more sense that the actual entity listed on the cover would be the "Free Software Foundation, Inc." rather than the documentation team? Anyways, just some thoughts since you were asking for input. On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > As I mentioned in an earlier note, I have been looking into getting > our user guides sold through Amazon > and other venues, now that Lulu is not charging a fee for this. > > In order for our books to qualify, some minor changes are required to > the files sent to Lulu. These changes do not need to be made to PDFs > we distribute ourselves, but I would recommend we make the changes > there too. > > For distribution through Amazon etc, the front cover of the book must > include the name of the author of the book, and that name must match > the name given in the copyright statement and in the metadata we > provide to Lulu. > > I have been listing "LibreOffice Documentation Team" as the author in > the metadata, and I propose to change the copyright statement in each > book to read: > > "This document is Copyright © 2014 by the LibreOffice Documentation > Team. Contributors are listed below. You may distribute or modify it > under the terms of either the GNU General Public License > (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the > Creative Commons Attribution License > (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later." > > I, or Klaus-Jürgen or someone, need to add "LibreOffice Documentation > Team" to the front cover design for v4.2, at least for the cover > provided to Lulu. > > --Jean > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted > -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon
First, and probably most important, I think that we should make the required changes and I am not really a stickler for how it must read, that seems to be a question for a "legal person" if needed. Recap: Jean: This document is Copyright © 2014 by the LibreOffice Documentation Team. On 01/26/2014 07:15 AM, Robinson Tryon wrote: Couple of points: 1) I don't believe the "LibreOffice Documentation Team" is a legal entity, so I'm not sure that it can hold copyright (at least not in the US). 2) In general, I believe TDF/LibreOffice does not request copyright assignment, so copyright in contributions to code, wiki pages, documentation, etc.. is all held by the individual contributors, or the company/organization for which they work, if it is a work-for-hire. Here's the text we use in the 'About' box in LibreOffice: "This release was supplied by The Document Foundation. Copyright (c) 2000 - 2014 LibreOffice contributors." Thanks, --R If you choose to be pedantic, I expect that "LibreOffice contributors" is also not a legal entity, but it is probably closer to the truth as to who owns the copyright :-) I also do not know how important it is that the front cover and meta-data directly reference a legal entity, especially if the truth of the matter is that the individual contributors hold the copyright for their own contributions. I also don't expect the individual contributors to go after people that violate the copyright. I think that Sun (when they owned OOo) had copyright assigned to them (or something like that) so that they could enforce it. -- Andrew Pitonyak My Macro Document: http://www.pitonyak.org/AndrewMacro.odt Info: http://www.pitonyak.org/oo.php -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 1:54 AM, Marina Latini wrote: > +1 Robinson. I think that the "LibreOffice Documentation Team" isn't a legal > entity. > > So, what about: > > "This document is Copyright © 2014 by The Document Foundation. > You may distribute or modify it under the terms of either the GNU General > Public License (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or > the Creative Commons Attribution License > (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later." > Hi Marina, Thanks for the suggestion! I'm still pretty sure that TDF doesn't hold copyright to these guides (and if they do, perhaps only to a small portion of the overall contributions), so implying that these works are solely "copyright TDF" would not meet our licensing obligations. Best, --R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Getting Started book for LO v4.2
Hello I will do the Draw and Impress chapters of the Getting Started Guide. That way I can make sure the Draw and Impress Guides match the chapters in the Getting Started Guide. Regards Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org On 27 Jan 2014, at 12:00, JohnSmith [via Document Foundation Mail Archive] wrote: > Hi Jean > I can detour to this with no trouble. I'm currently doing Writer. > > JohnS > On 26/01/2014 06:39, Jean Weber wrote: > > > The Getting Started guide is, not surprisingly, the most popular book > > we produce, with the Writer Guide running a close second. > > > > PeterS, if you can update the chapters on Draw and Impress for the > > Getting Started book, that would help move it along. And any other > > chapters that might take your fancy. Perhaps Calc, since you've been > > working on the Calc Guide? > > > > MartinS, Thanks for your continuing work on this book. > > > > JohnS, are you there? The chapter on Writer, perhaps? > > > > Anyone else? > > > > --Jean > > > > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: [hidden email] > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ > All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be > deleted > > > > If you reply to this email, your message will be added to the discussion > below: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-Started-book-for-LO-v4-2-tp4093970p4094161.html > To start a new topic under Documentation, email > ml-node+s969070n1645240...@n3.nabble.com > To unsubscribe from Documentation, click here. > NAML - Peter Schofield psaut...@libreoffice.org -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Getting-Started-book-for-LO-v4-2-tp4093970p4094164.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started book for LO v4.2
Hi Jean I can detour to this with no trouble. I'm currently doing Writer. JohnS On 26/01/2014 06:39, Jean Weber wrote: The Getting Started guide is, not surprisingly, the most popular book we produce, with the Writer Guide running a close second. PeterS, if you can update the chapters on Draw and Impress for the Getting Started book, that would help move it along. And any other chapters that might take your fancy. Perhaps Calc, since you've been working on the Calc Guide? MartinS, Thanks for your continuing work on this book. JohnS, are you there? The chapter on Writer, perhaps? Anyone else? --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon
+1 Robinson. I think that the "LibreOffice Documentation Team" isn't a legal entity. So, what about: "This document is Copyright © 2014 by The Document Foundation. You may distribute or modify it under the terms of either the GNU General Public License (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the Creative Commons Attribution License (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later." my 2 cents! Have a nice day, Marina Marina Latini mar...@studiostorti.com Studio Storti Srl Viale Leonardo da Vinci, 18 36100 - Vicenza (VI) http://www.studiostorti.com - Messaggio originale - Da: "Robinson Tryon" A: "Jean Weber" Cc: Documentation@global.libreoffice.org Inviato: Domenica, 26 gennaio 2014 13:15:08 Oggetto: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Changes to front cover and copyright notice required for user guides to go on Amazon On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Jean Weber wrote: > For distribution through Amazon etc, the front cover of the book must > include the name of the author of the book, and that name must match > the name given in the copyright statement and in the metadata we > provide to Lulu. Ok > I have been listing "LibreOffice Documentation Team" as the author in > the metadata, and I propose to change the copyright statement in each > book to read: > > "This document is Copyright © 2014 by the LibreOffice Documentation > Team. Contributors are listed below. You may distribute or modify it > under the terms of either the GNU General Public License > (http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html), version 3 or later, or the > Creative Commons Attribution License > (http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/), version 3.0 or later." Couple of points: 1) I don't believe the "LibreOffice Documentation Team" is a legal entity, so I'm not sure that it can hold copyright (at least not in the US). 2) In general, I believe TDF/LibreOffice does not request copyright assignment, so copyright in contributions to code, wiki pages, documentation, etc.. is all held by the individual contributors, or the company/organization for which they work, if it is a work-for-hire. Here's the text we use in the 'About' box in LibreOffice: "This release was supplied by The Document Foundation. Copyright (c) 2000 - 2014 LibreOffice contributors." Thanks, --R -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
