[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation
Sophi and Olivier,
I'm referring to help content only. The changes that I'm making are cosmetic -
either removing grammatical errors ("allow to") or inserting articles. They
shouldn't need translating as I'm sure the translators have already corrected
this in their own languages.
I intend to change 8 files only. I have found a problem, though (see my latest
thread), and will wait for this to be cleared up before submitting anything.
Best regards,
Peter
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Wednesday, April 13, 2016, 1:41:26 PM, you wrote:
Hi Peter,
Le 13/04/2016 14:19, Olivier Hallot a écrit :
> Hello Peter
>
> Are you refering to help content or Guide Books?
>
> On Guide books, there is no need for bugzilla.
>
> On help contents, then it worth to note that HC is translated into
> several languages. A change in the English string due to a style
> improvement will put the string in fuzzy state, forcing the translators
> to review the string. This is not always fun for them, because each
> language has its style and the change in English may not apply for the
> target language (I speak for myself because I am a translator). So in
> case of HelpContent, I recomend proceeding changes of style only when
> the help file is being touched by a content update, to prevent a massive
> batch of string review.
I completely second Olivier here. If there is a possibility of scripting
to avoid the fuzzy tags on the target languages, then no problem.
Otherwise, like Olivier said, better to wait for an update or proceed
only with small volumes.
Cheers
Sophie
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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation
Hi Peter, Le 13/04/2016 14:19, Olivier Hallot a écrit : > Hello Peter > > Are you refering to help content or Guide Books? > > On Guide books, there is no need for bugzilla. > > On help contents, then it worth to note that HC is translated into > several languages. A change in the English string due to a style > improvement will put the string in fuzzy state, forcing the translators > to review the string. This is not always fun for them, because each > language has its style and the change in English may not apply for the > target language (I speak for myself because I am a translator). So in > case of HelpContent, I recomend proceeding changes of style only when > the help file is being touched by a content update, to prevent a massive > batch of string review. I completely second Olivier here. If there is a possibility of scripting to avoid the fuzzy tags on the target languages, then no problem. Otherwise, like Olivier said, better to wait for an update or proceed only with small volumes. Cheers Sophie -- Sophie Gautier sophie.gaut...@documentfoundation.org GSM: +33683901545 IRC: sophi Co-founder - Release coordinator The Document Foundation -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Help files are inconsistent
Hello Peter Em 13/04/2016 05:58, ptoye escreveu: > As part of my efforts to clean up some help files I've found that at least > one file that I downloaded from git://gerrit.libreoffice.org/help doesn't > have the same text as in the corresponding LO help file (5.0.5 en-GB). This > may of course happen on other files. > > This raises the question - is this a deliberate fork or has something gone > wrong? > > The file is help/source/text/shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp if that's any > help. > You can get the history of the file in Opengrok: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/history/help/source/text/shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp The help content has gaps in contents and updates since long time and these gaps are progressively being closed by our eforts to deliver a consistent and precise documentation for users. It however does not happen in a finger snap, unfortunately. Regards -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation
Hello Peter Are you refering to help content or Guide Books? On Guide books, there is no need for bugzilla. On help contents, then it worth to note that HC is translated into several languages. A change in the English string due to a style improvement will put the string in fuzzy state, forcing the translators to review the string. This is not always fun for them, because each language has its style and the change in English may not apply for the target language (I speak for myself because I am a translator). So in case of HelpContent, I recomend proceeding changes of style only when the help file is being touched by a content update, to prevent a massive batch of string review. And to answer your question, no need for bugzilla for style changes, only for content change, update or creation. Kind regards Olivier Em 13/04/2016 05:51, ptoye escreveu: > One further issue: I don't know the LO bureaucracy but the "allow to" issue > hasn't been filed as a bug in Bugzilla. Should I do this or isn't it > necessary? > > > > > - > Peter > -- > View this message in context: > http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Use-of-allow-to-in-documentation-tp4167829p4181012.html > Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
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[libreoffice-documentation] Help files are inconsistent
As part of my efforts to clean up some help files I've found that at least one file that I downloaded from git://gerrit.libreoffice.org/help doesn't have the same text as in the corresponding LO help file (5.0.5 en-GB). This may of course happen on other files. This raises the question - is this a deliberate fork or has something gone wrong? The file is help/source/text/shared/01/ref_pdf_export.xhp if that's any help. - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Help-files-are-inconsistent-tp4181014.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Use of "allow to" in documentation
One further issue: I don't know the LO bureaucracy but the "allow to" issue hasn't been filed as a bug in Bugzilla. Should I do this or isn't it necessary? - Peter -- View this message in context: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/Use-of-allow-to-in-documentation-tp4167829p4181012.html Sent from the Documentation mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
