Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Expanding help contend for issue #100568
Hello Lothar
Em 26/07/2016 11:03, Lothar Becker escreveu:
> Hi Olivier,
>
> so here I'm back again, sorry for delay, the last days I had a heavy
> workload
> with interop issues.
>
> First of all thanks for bringing in the issue to the meta bug.
You're welcome.
>
> I've searched and visited some issues of them but I didn't find a bug
> which seems to cover the same. So afterwards, I searched a little bit in
> the
> Indes you mentioned and I think I found the place, where the description
> should be
> integrated in, see
>
> http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/01/wiz_data_series.xhp#bm_id8641621
>
>
> It is not covered directly of the index, but with the link "chart
> wizzard - data ranges" you get there.
Yes, indeed.
>
> So, I'm sure, it is a piity so find out, which XHP file it is, but more
> road blockers are the question,
> where to search for the informations itself ("which form and numbers
> have to be filled in the range
> for fill colours and border colours).
vm173 is work in progress.
>
> So before adding something tothe XHP file there are two questions:
>
> a) Are there any developer documentations / specifications for the chart
> wizzard or in detail für
> the type of inputs for the second tab of it? As I'm not so far from
> development (not daily but
> sometimes) I think I will be able, to understand such documentations to
> sort out these informatiosn.
> Or a hint where to find the chart wizzard implementation to have a look
> at the source code.
As opposed to the old OpenOffice.org at SUN's times, I am not aware of
the doc's/spec's of any feature unique to LibreOffice. At best, some
senior developers write the help pages or blog posts, which is much
appreciated, but it is not the rule. Therefore, volunteers pick the
features and, with trial and error, sweat, devotion and abnegation,
write on the subject.
>
> b) What infrastructure is needed to help with help files?
There are 3 ways to edit help files. All need a copy of the helpconten2/
module git in the local machine.
1) using the HelpAuthoring extension. See
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/HelpContent
2) an experimental on-line text editor in vm173
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/OnlineHelpContent
3) plain text edition in your local copy of helpcontent2/
For 2) write me offline to get a login.
Kind regards
Olivier
>
>
> Am 20.07.2016 um 16:13 schrieb Olivier Hallot:
>> Hi Lothar
>>
>> Mucho better indeed!
>> I brought back the discussion to the bug page.
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Olivier
>>
>>
>> Em 20/07/2016 01:49, Lothar Becker escreveu:
>>> Hi Olivier,
>>>
>>> wow, youare absolut right, thanks Olivier, it is
>>>
>>> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100586
>>>
>>> I switched the last two numbers, so sorry for that, please
>>> excuse me for that, I will search for the help page and in the
>>> meta bug soon,
>>>
>>> Thanks again, Olivier, best
>>> Lothar
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 19.07.2016 um 23:47 schrieb Olivier Hallot:
Hi Lothar
Can you double check if bug #100568 (LibreOffice Bugzilla) has anything
related to a dialog, colour and borders? A typo may have slipped in,
because 100568 is a pivot table & filter display issue, not chart and
data series.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100568
You can also try to find the help page in this site
http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/main.xhp
and let me know the troubling page.
Kind regards
Olivier
Em 19/07/2016 12:37, Lothar Becker escreveu:
> Hi Olivier,
>
> first of all thanks for your response, very appreciated ;-)
>
> Well, perhaps its a little bit complicated expressed from me,
> what I meant is, that in the help-text of the mentioned dialog
> there is no explanation, which semantic is needed with the
> entry fields for fill colour and border colour, which sort of values
> and which concrete integer numberhave to be put in this fields
> to get aspecific colour in the bar or forthe borders of the bar in a
> chart).
>
> I would expect in the help text for this dialog something like:
> the range in the entry fields für border colour and fill colour
> must be
> filled with the name of the element in the data series
> and an integer out of 1 to 999, where 1 stands for black and
> 999
> stands for white, or somethinglike this.
>
> So, let me have a look inthe meta-bug, if it is covered in the
> mentioned
> issues there,
> thanI will come back again with the search result.This will last a few
> days because I'm in
> heavy workload with a urgent LibO interop issue from a customer.
>
> Thanks again, Olivier, I will be back ;-)
> Lothar
>
>
> Am 18.07.2016 um 17:39 schrieb Olivier Hallot:
>> Hi Lothar
>>
>> Sorry for the late response.
>>
>> I'm having trouble ass
[libreoffice-documentation] Re: Documentation Team Meeting next Wednesday, July 27: What is the best time for you?
Hello The doodle poll shows 20:00 UTC as the best choice. That means 22:00 CET for inland Europeans. I will let you know 15 minutes before time the Google hangout link, on this lists and on the #libreoffice-doc channel on freenode.net We will use a TDF pad at http://pad.documentfoundation.org/p/documentation See you tomorrow! Olivier Em 21/07/2016 12:18, Olivier Hallot escreveu: > Hello documentation community > > 1) I apologize for not being present to trigger the last scheduled > meeting so lets set our next Documentation Meeting on wednesday July 27, > but I need to know from you the best time, as some interested parties > are not able to attend at 19:00. > > So please let me know your preference in this Doodle poll: > > http://doodle.com/poll/a5fnyrsbquxz2bep > > > 2) Next wednesday 27, I'd like to address many of the issues we have in > the documentation process, and here are some of them that came from > TDF-internal brainstorming: > > + How to turn the documentation job fun and thrilling? > + get more authors? > + Author's peer/community recognition > + Narrow gap between book release date and software release date > + Lowering author's entry barriers > > + How can we improve our documents visibility? > + Are our books a true LibreOffice companion product? > + improve downloads of our books? > + connect LO users to our docs and books? > + get more book translators, > + L10N contributions to documentation > > + Documentation meetings in Brno. > > Please don't miss these important discussions > > See you there! > -- Olivier Hallot Comunidade LibreOffice Rio de Janeiro - Brazil - Local time: UTC-03 http://ask.libreoffice.org/pt-br -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Expanding help contend for issue #100568
Hi Olivier,
so here I'm back again, sorry for delay, the last days I had a heavy
workload
with interop issues.
First of all thanks for bringing in the issue to the meta bug.
I've searched and visited some issues of them but I didn't find a bug
which seems to cover the same. So afterwards, I searched a little bit in the
Indes you mentioned and I think I found the place, where the description
should be
integrated in, see
http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/01/wiz_data_series.xhp#bm_id8641621
It is not covered directly of the index, but with the link "chart
wizzard - data ranges" you get there.
So, I'm sure, it is a piity so find out, which XHP file it is, but more
road blockers are the question,
where to search for the informations itself ("which form and numbers
have to be filled in the range
for fill colours and border colours).
So before adding something tothe XHP file there are two questions:
a) Are there any developer documentations / specifications for the chart
wizzard or in detail für
the type of inputs for the second tab of it? As I'm not so far from
development (not daily but
sometimes) I think I will be able, to understand such documentations to
sort out these informatiosn.
Or a hint where to find the chart wizzard implementation to have a look
at the source code.
b) What infrastructure is needed to help with help files?
Thanks alot for some hints or a link with short descreptions for b) to
clearify the process,
cu in Brno
Lothar
Am 20.07.2016 um 16:13 schrieb Olivier Hallot:
Hi Lothar
Mucho better indeed!
I brought back the discussion to the bug page.
Kind regards
Olivier
Em 20/07/2016 01:49, Lothar Becker escreveu:
Hi Olivier,
wow, youare absolut right, thanks Olivier, it is
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100586
I switched the last two numbers, so sorry for that, please
excuse me for that, I will search for the help page and in the
meta bug soon,
Thanks again, Olivier, best
Lothar
Am 19.07.2016 um 23:47 schrieb Olivier Hallot:
Hi Lothar
Can you double check if bug #100568 (LibreOffice Bugzilla) has anything
related to a dialog, colour and borders? A typo may have slipped in,
because 100568 is a pivot table & filter display issue, not chart and
data series.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=100568
You can also try to find the help page in this site
http://vm173.documentfoundation.org/text/schart/main.xhp
and let me know the troubling page.
Kind regards
Olivier
Em 19/07/2016 12:37, Lothar Becker escreveu:
Hi Olivier,
first of all thanks for your response, very appreciated ;-)
Well, perhaps its a little bit complicated expressed from me,
what I meant is, that in the help-text of the mentioned dialog
there is no explanation, which semantic is needed with the
entry fields for fill colour and border colour, which sort of values
and which concrete integer numberhave to be put in this fields
to get aspecific colour in the bar or forthe borders of the bar in a
chart).
I would expect in the help text for this dialog something like:
the range in the entry fields für border colour and fill colour must be
filled with the name of the element in the data series
and an integer out of 1 to 999, where 1 stands for black and 999
stands for white, or somethinglike this.
So, let me have a look inthe meta-bug, if it is covered in the mentioned
issues there,
thanI will come back again with the search result.This will last a few
days because I'm in
heavy workload with a urgent LibO interop issue from a customer.
Thanks again, Olivier, I will be back ;-)
Lothar
Am 18.07.2016 um 17:39 schrieb Olivier Hallot:
Hi Lothar
Sorry for the late response.
I'm having trouble associating bug#100568 into a help content related
issue. Have I missed something?
But if you are available to address help content issues, we collected
them in this meta-bug:
https://goo.gl/fwL7kO
Let me know if one of these topics pleases you and I'll help you to get
it done.
Kind Regards
Olivier
Em 01/07/2016 05:33, Lothar Becker escreveu:
Hi,
in follow up to issue #100568 in the bugtracker I volunteer to help
with
the help content for that.
Could someone give me a hint, how and where I get the needed
information
(out of the source?) and what to do (process, infrastructure), to
extend
the help
contend for this topic.
And if this is done and infrastructure set up for that, there
ceratinly
will be other
topics where I will help from time to time
Thanks a lot, cu in Brno
Lothar
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