Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to for syntax highlighting code

2022-03-29 Thread flywire
Can you comment in terms of experience formatting code in the guide? I
previously commented code colorization should be part of the style running
any macro behind the scenes. It isn't (ie changing the template does
nothing). If you look through the guides you'll see a lot of inconsistency
from random processes.

   1. Extension configuration is not specified anywhere
   2. The code style does not color the text, it's done externally or maybe
   using this macro
   3. The extension also styles text which can conflict with the
   documentation style
   4. The hotkey description would be better replaced by a link.

The whole process is pretty poor. On top of that, copy/paste doesn't work
in pdf -
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00295.html

On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 12:39 AM Dave Barton  wrote:

> Why has this unnecessary macro operation been added to chapter 2 of the
> "Producing LibreOffice User Guides"?
> We already have a perfectly good "Code" style in the 7.2x template. If
> the docs team feel the style needs changing/improving then let's simply
> agree on a revision of the template, not by adding more complexity to
> documentation production.
>

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Long march towards accessibility

2022-03-29 Thread Dave Barton
On 29/03/2022 11:55, Olivier Hallot wrote:
> Hi Team
> 
> LibreOffice has a tool to check some elements of accessibility (a11y) in
> documents:
> 
> Choose Tools - Accessibility check
> 
> I ran the tool in a random chapter and found some issues, for example:
> 
> - No alt text for graphic 'Image2'
> - The text formatting conveys additional meaning.
> - Text contrast is too low.
> - Hyperlink text is the same as the link address
> 'https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/'
> 
> It may be necessary to define a set of rules to address a11y in our
> chapter. For example, a shorter caption text can serve as 'alt text' of
> images. Other issues may demand for a change in formatting and contents
> display (merged cells in tables).
> 
> Let's run the tool in the chapters, within the review process, ensuring
> we are in the way to turn our guides and other production accessible.
> 
> More information on the Help page
> https://help.libreoffice.org/master/en-US/text/swriter/01/accessibility_check.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id551630942369429
> 
> 
> Cheers

Hi Olivier,

I would agree that we should pay more attention to a11y in our
documentation. However, I feel the Accessibility Check tool needs
additional work to raise it up to a more useable level.

Just some rough basic examples:

* I run the tool on some of my own documents and it shows headings for
all possible issues in the document, not just those that actually do
exist in the document and need consideration. Creating confusion for
inexperienced users.

* The dialog shows 2 instances of items where "The text formatting
conveys additional meaning." is displayed, when the document actually
has a total of 8 identical issues.

* Clicking the "Go to issue" dialog button highlights a 1/2 special
character, which tells the user absolutely nothing about the
accessibility issue, IF ANY.

I haven't yet checked Bugzilla, but I feel this needs to be drawn to the
devs attention.

You are probably aware that the "Help" button in the Accessibility Check
dialog generates a 404 page error.

Regards
Dave



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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How to for syntax highlighting code

2022-03-29 Thread Dave Barton
On 29/03/2022 13:52, flywire wrote:
> Can someone confirm the process in:
> https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_for_syntax_highlighting_code
> 
> Issues:
> * macro should just set colors without altering style
> * red and green as the predominant colors is a poor choice for
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
> * keywords highlighted within function names is suspect
> * inconsistent end of line characters
> * random large text
> *
> https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00295.html
> 
> There is better syntax highlighting code these days.

Why has this unnecessary macro operation been added to chapter 2 of the
"Producing LibreOffice User Guides"?
We already have a perfectly good "Code" style in the 7.2x template. If
the docs team feel the style needs changing/improving then let's simply
agree on a revision of the template, not by adding more complexity to
documentation production.

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[libreoffice-documentation] How to for syntax highlighting code

2022-03-29 Thread flywire
Can someone confirm the process in:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/DocumentationTeamInfo/ProducingLibreOfficeUserGuides#How_to_for_syntax_highlighting_code

Issues:
* macro should just set colors without altering style
* red and green as the predominant colors is a poor choice for
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_blindness
* keywords highlighted within function names is suspect
* inconsistent end of line characters
* random large text
*
https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/2022/msg00295.html

There is better syntax highlighting code these days.

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[libreoffice-documentation] Long march towards accessibility

2022-03-29 Thread Olivier Hallot

Hi Team

LibreOffice has a tool to check some elements of accessibility (a11y) in 
documents:


Choose Tools - Accessibility check

I ran the tool in a random chapter and found some issues, for example:

- No alt text for graphic 'Image2'
- The text formatting conveys additional meaning.
- Text contrast is too low.
- Hyperlink text is the same as the link address 
'https://documentation.libreoffice.org/en/'


It may be necessary to define a set of rules to address a11y in our 
chapter. For example, a shorter caption text can serve as 'alt text' of 
images. Other issues may demand for a change in formatting and contents 
display (merged cells in tables).


Let's run the tool in the chapters, within the review process, ensuring 
we are in the way to turn our guides and other production accessible.


More information on the Help page
https://help.libreoffice.org/master/en-US/text/swriter/01/accessibility_check.html?DbPAR=WRITER#bm_id551630942369429

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[libreoffice-documentation] First review of IG7305-Managing-Graphic-Objects

2022-03-29 Thread kees538

I have given IG7305-Managing-Graphic-Objects a first review.

Kees

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