Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
Hello Tim, If, at any stage, you find PDF too inflexible, take a look at Sigil: https://code.google.com/p/sigil/ It's a free cross-platform epub creation application that I've found to be quite excellent. It doesn't have a very steep learning curve and I've created and modified many epub files that have been problematic with Calibre. Regards, Martin On 15/03/14 09:38, timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday, March 15, 2014 06:59:18 PM Jean Weber wrote: For those on this list who aren't on the Docs list, this conversation may be of interest. --Jean -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:15 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us?? To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: Jean, Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually tried them out though. Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. ev IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs & printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean Jean, I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from Lulu as well. I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty fast and relatively easy. I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns out. Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple administrators to ease management/updates etc. Tim -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Jean, After looking through The Google Books Partnership Publishing configuration, I found that it is required to submit Tax Payment forms, as well as setup bank account info etc for payment prior to
Re: [libreoffice-marketing] Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
On Saturday, March 15, 2014 06:59:18 PM Jean Weber wrote: > For those on this list who aren't on the Docs list, this conversation > may be of interest. > > --Jean > > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: > Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 6:15 PM > Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this > material in a soft cover book for us?? > To: documentation@global.libreoffice.org > > On Saturday, March 15, 2014 04:08:59 PM you wrote: > > > Jean, > > > > > > Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google > > > Books > > > to stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It > > > would would not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would > > > also stock the soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would > > > certainly assist with in reaching new users particularly if they are > > > provided for free and would provide some great advertising as well. > > > > > > I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not > > > actually tried them out though. > > > > > > Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to > > > learn how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants > > > to > > > lead this then I am willing to port some chapters! > > > > > > Tim > > > > Tim, > > As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it > > is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be > > stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will > > take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is > > not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I > > have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. > > > > Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has > > cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy > > to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using > > them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. > > > > We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) > > from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and > > publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs > > for users to download at no cost. > > > > Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said > > that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job > > of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan > > is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for > > him to say. > > ev > > IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the > > conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented > > some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the > > archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the > > changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever > > possible and using the built-in style names instead. > > > > This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new > > template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for > > various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years > > seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of > > the resulting PDFs & printed books and not on changes that affect the > > conversion process to other formats. > > > > --Jean > > Jean, > > I decided I wanted to go ahead and try out The Google Books Partnership > Publishing, I went ahead and published The LibreOffice 4.0 Getting Started > Guide in its official non-modified state to Google Books and Google Play > for the low price of FREE with no DRM. Google Is currently processing it > for full text search/indexing it is set to become available immediately > upon finishing and it will be available in PDF download format from Google > Play/Books as well. I was also able to advertise the printed version from > Lulu as well. > > I will send out the URL for it when I goes online, The process is pretty > fast and relatively easy. > > I will look at publishing the rest of them after I see how this one turns > out. > > > Also the partnership Publishing accounts can be configured for multiple > administrators to ease management/updates etc. > > Tim > > -- > To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org > Problems? > http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ > Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette > List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All > messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted Jean, After looking through The Google Books Partnership Publishing configuration, I found that it is required to submit Tax Payment forms, as well as setup bank account info etc for payment prior to them allowing any materials to be published live even if they
Fwd: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us??
Sorry, I had intended to reply on-list, as Tim's questions were addressed to the list. I have one comment in addition to what I've said below: Bruce Byfield, who is writing a book on styles and templates (titled "Designing with LibreOffice"), should have some very relevant and valuable comments to make on the subject of conversion to ebook formats, among other topics. --Jean -- Forwarded message -- From: Jean Weber Date: Sat, Mar 15, 2014 at 4:08 PM Subject: Re: [libreoffice-documentation] How about printing this material in a soft cover book for us?? To: timothy.m.butterwo...@gmail.com > Jean, > > Is it possible to get Amazon.com to stock hard/soft copy and Google Books to > stock soft copy (they already support PDF in addition to epub.) It would would > not be bad to see if Barnes and Noble as well as Kobo would also stock the > soft copy for their Ebook Readers as well. This would certainly assist with in > reaching new users particularly if they are provided for free and would > provide some great advertising as well. > > I know Amazon and Google have programs to self publish but I have not actually > tried them out though. > > Is anyone interested is publishing them in epub or mobi? I would like to learn > how to format and produce epub so if someone knows how and wants to lead this > then I am willing to port some chapters! > > Tim Tim, As I have said on previous occasions when this topic came up: yes, it is possible to get printed books and ebooks (in several formats) to be stocked by Amazon and others. Lulu (where we publish our books) will take care of it for us (previously there was a fee, but now there is not). There is some extra work involved that sounds easy but is not. I have begun taking steps to do this for the v4.2 books. Amazon's self-publishing program (I don't know about Google's) has cost, taxation, and other problems for us that I don't have the energy to describe in detail right now. I personally will not consider using them, but others can pursue this if they wish to. We can, of course, produce our own ebooks (epub, mobi, other formats) from chapters and/or full books with or without Lulu's help, and publish them on our own wiki and website along with the ODTs and PDFs for users to download at no cost. Dan Lewis has done some work converting files to epub. He has said that the latest version of Calibre does a much better and easier job of converting our files than earlier versions did. I don't think Dan is available to lead an effort to do major conversions, but that's for him to say. IMO we need to make some changes to our template to make the conversion process easier and give better results. I have documented some of this somewhere. You might be able to find it by searching the archives for this list, or it might be on the wiki. IIRC, mainly the changes involve getting rid of our custom style names wherever possible and using the built-in style names instead. This change in style names is part of the plan to produce a new template for our books, but that plan keeps getting stalled for various reasons. Also, work on the template over the past few years seems to have focused on changes that affect mainly the appearance of the resulting PDFs & printed books and not on changes that affect the conversion process to other formats. --Jean -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: documentation+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/documentation/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
