Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0

2016-03-19 Thread Olivier Hallot
Hello Jean

I just uploaded the LO5.1 GS Preface in the 5.1 LO Draft folder. On
reading it, I noticed that under the FAQ section, the 1st question still
refers to LibreOffice 4.4.

Regards

Olivier

Em 04/03/2016 00:02, Jean Weber escreveu:
> I have now compiled and uploaded the ODT and PDF of the full book
> Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0, to both ODFAuthors and the
> Publications wiki. I'll soon add it to the get-help/docs page on the
> website.
> 
> I'm working on the print version and should have that published within
> a day or so and will add links to it from wiki and get-help/docs.
> 
> As soon as I've finished all that, I expect someone to find a major
> error or several. That's the way it usually works!
> 
> Cheers, Jean
> 

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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0?

2015-05-28 Thread Alan Cook
So how do we find out what's new in v5.0? Just start working through a 
chapter from the old guide using 5.0 to see if anything doesn't work the 
same way?


On 5/27/2015 11:55 PM, Jean Weber wrote:

As you probably know, the next version of LibreOffice (due out in late
July) will be version 5.0. A Beta1 version is available; it is in
dev-configuration and will install alongside your existing LibreOffice
installation. (Beta2 is due out next week.)

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleasePlan/5.0#5.0.0_release
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.0

We really should publish at least the Getting Started Guide for v5.0
reasonably close to the time the program is released, don't you agree?

The most recent GS book is for v4.2. I had put all the chapters into a
new template in preparation for people to update content for v4.4; I
did a trivial amount of updating on a few chapters; PeterS and I
updated Chapter 9, but AFAIK nothing else ever got done.

At this point we should skip GS v4.4 and try to do a book for v5.0.
You could start with the chapters here (which are in the new template:
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-4.4
Update them and return them to
http://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/draft-lo-5.0
And be sure to put your initials and the date in the relevant boxes on
the Task List, so others know that you've checked out or returned a
chapter.
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development/UserGuideTasks#Getting_Started_Guide

If you need some guidance,
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Development#First_steps_with_the_Documentation_team

And if you'd like to take over the role of leader, coordinator,
herder of cats for Documentation, *please* do so.

--Jean Weber




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0?

2015-05-28 Thread toki
On 28/05/2015 13:38, Marcus Mackaku wrote:

 Why do we not rather create one standard template for all versions or that 
 can be used across all versions?

A little more than a decade ago, somebody, probably Jean, made a
template for OpenOffice.org Documentation. Over time, that template has
been modified, to fit current practices, and document output.

By way of example:
* In LibO4.4.draft.ott, the modifications made it easier to export
content to ePub format, with minimal presentation markup loss;
* The cover page was changed, when _The Document Foundation_ was created;
* I _think_ that the same template is used, with Apache branding, rather
than OOo or LibO branding. (I'm not sure about this, because the Apache
documentation does not cover the current version of AOO;


_Maak je mooiste werkstuk met LibreOffice Writer_ uses the lightly
modified _LibreOffice handleidingen_. Dutch (The Netherlands) is the
default language, rather that English (US).

The Base documentation in German uses an older version of the template,
with a minor modification -- German (Germany) as the default language,
rather than English (US).

Both of those documents use a different font than the current
LibO4.4.draft, but I don't know if that is because the fonts changed
with LibO4.4.draft, or if the the default fonts for English don't work
as well for Dutch and German text.

jonathon


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0?

2015-05-28 Thread Dave Barton
Alan Cook wrote:
 So how do we find out what's new in v5.0? Just start working through a
 chapter from the old guide using 5.0 to see if anything doesn't work the
 same way?

https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ReleaseNotes/5.0




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0?

2015-05-28 Thread toki


On 28/05/2015 04:55, Jean Weber wrote:
 We really should publish at least the Getting Started Guide for v5.0
 reasonably close to the time the program is released, don't you agree?

Is the LO4.4 chapter template (draft) going to be the standard template
for LibO v5?

jonathon


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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0?

2015-05-28 Thread toki


On 28/05/2015 07:20, Jean Weber wrote:

 Content updating should proceed using the new template so that the style 
 names of the new files are correct.

Thanks.

###

This is when find and replace for character styles would be nice to
have. OTOH, for the documentation I've been looking at, the writer has
used direct formatting, and not character styles.

jonathon




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0?

2015-05-28 Thread Marcus Mackaku
Why do we not rather create one standard template for all versions or that
can be used across all versions?

On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:38 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote:



 On 28/05/2015 07:20, Jean Weber wrote:

  Content updating should proceed using the new template so that the style
 names of the new files are correct.

 Thanks.

 ###

 This is when find and replace for character styles would be nice to
 have. OTOH, for the documentation I've been looking at, the writer has
 used direct formatting, and not character styles.

 jonathon




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Re: [libreoffice-documentation] Getting Started Guide for LO v5.0?

2015-05-28 Thread Dave Barton
Marcus Mackaku wrote:

 On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 9:38 AM, toki toki.kant...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 28/05/2015 07:20, Jean Weber wrote:

 Content updating should proceed using the new template so that the style
 names of the new files are correct.

 Thanks.

 ###

 This is when find and replace for character styles would be nice to
 have. OTOH, for the documentation I've been looking at, the writer has
 used direct formatting, and not character styles.

 jonathon

 Why do we not rather create one standard template for all versions or that
 can be used across all versions?

For many years we have used one standard template for all versions and
will continue to do so. The template referred to in this thread is a
much needed update of that original template. It is proposed that from
version 5 of the guides Jean's draft template should be applied to
updated and new chapters.

Dave



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