Pretty predictably, the bill has been sent to wash-up
(http://www.computing.co.uk/computing/news/2260871/digital-economy-bill-wash).
Basically that means that it's likely to be rail-roaded through, as predicted.
So unless someone puts the brakes on and stops the relevant parts, (and they
only
On Thu, 01 Apr 2010 17:36:44 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
wrote:
I'm not sure if you left out the sarcasm tags or whether you really
believe
Apologies - I did leave off the sarcasm tags.
I think the 'trialing' is one aspect of the 'pirates'. The other is that
those are the
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 14:11:48 +0100, Andrew Montgomery-Hurrell
darkliq...@darkliquid.co.uk wrote:
Thats essentially what DRM is. As it's already been proven, it is
entirely ineffective. However, if they were free, time limited full
songs would be a nice way of doing publicity and try before
On Monday 05 Apr 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote:
My personal opinion is that the industry needs to reform their entire
pricing structure.
Gone are the days people feel 'britney spears et al' require private jets
and 50 bedroom mansions. Hows about we work out the price of a CD for
everyone
On 1 April 2010 17:36, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote:
On Thursday 01 Apr 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:09:58 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
wrote:
people who illegally download buy more music legally than those whodon't.
*clearly* those people
On 3 April 2010 13:49, Peter Washington pugwash1...@googlemail.com wrote:
On 1 April 2010 17:36, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote:
On Thursday 01 Apr 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:09:58 +0100, Terry Coles
d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
wrote:
people who
On Saturday 03 Apr 2010, Peter Washington wrote:
That would provide exactly the style of Try before you Buy that the
theory says is happening, and would provide a whole host of new sales
opportunities for the industry to boot !
Yes. Every DRM that has been invented has been cracked in time.
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:09:58 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
wrote:
people who illegally download buy more music legally than those whodon't.
*clearly* those people would spend even more if they weren't downloading
illegally.
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On 01/04/2010 12:38, Robert Bronsdon wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:09:58 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
wrote:
people who illegally download buy more music legally than those whodon't.
*clearly* those people would spend even more if they weren't downloading
On Thursday 01 Apr 2010, Robert Bronsdon wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:09:58 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
wrote:
people who illegally download buy more music legally than those whodon't.
*clearly* those people would spend even more if they weren't downloading
illegally.
I'm
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:33:05 +0100, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
wrote:
I realise that British justice is nowhere near as unjust as the US
variety,
It seems our current governing parties are envious though.
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Next meeting:
On Thursday 25 Mar 2010, Sean Gibbins wrote:
Apparently the LibDem ammendment to the bill was copied almost verbatim
from a BPI document.
http://www.openrightsgroup.org/blog/2010/bpi-drafted-web-blocking
They can try all they like; all the evidence shows that they are flogging a
dead horse:
On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 18:21 +0100, Terry Coles wrote:
On Thursday 25 Mar 2010, Terry Coles wrote:
Whatever the truth, here is what Annette Brooke (LibDem for Mid Dorset and
Poole North) said to me in response to my letter through the 38 Degrees
site:
Thank you for your message calling
On Tuesday 30 Mar 2010, Peter Merchant wrote:
http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/8357/digital-economy-bill-protest
s-spread-across-the-uk/
Yes, but that report is nearly a week old, so the momentum has been lost. The
LibDems were the only major party opposing the bill. Now they've
Terry Coles wrote:
On Tuesday 30 Mar 2010, Peter Merchant wrote:
http://www.infosecurity-magazine.com/view/8357/digital-economy-bill-protest
s-spread-across-the-uk/
Yes, but that report is nearly a week old, so the momentum has been lost.
The
LibDems were the only major party
On 25/03/2010 14:32, Andrew Montgomery-Hurrell wrote:
Thats the exact same reply I got from Robert Syms - form letters are
wonderful things.
At least it generally seems positive regarding pushing for a proper debate.
Unfortunately today the 2nd reading was set for the 6th April, the day
Hi John,
On Saturday 20 March 2010 08:42:27 Terry Coles wrote:
has any one ever found an innovative software patent?
Wasn't Lempel-Ziv innovative, in its time ?
Was it? It's basically the bytes from here on are the same as the N
bytes from M bytes ago, followed by this new bit: `...'.
- Original Message -
From: Ralph Corderoy ra...@inputplus.co.uk
To: Dorset Linux User Group dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 7:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Dorset] OT: Sign up to oppose the Digital Economy Bill
Hi John,
On Saturday 20 March 2010 08:42:27 Terry Coles wrote
On Friday 19 Mar 2010, Chris Dennis wrote:
I've written to Desmond Swayne -- the MP on this side of the border.
Last time I wrote to him about something (the arms trade) he just
replied I disagree (embedded in a couple of paragraphs of waffle).
When the big US Corporations were bending all the
On Saturday 20 March 2010 08:42:27 Terry Coles wrote:
has any one ever found an innovative software patent?
Wasn't Lempel-Ziv innovative, in its time ?
the better points are surely
1 software patents are often not held by the innovators;
2 they last far too long and hamper /further/
On Saturday 20 Mar 2010, Ralph Corderoy wrote:
Yes, HTTP lets clients and servers converse over whether they need to
fetch a new version of the page to save on needless transfers. A server
can use it to help stop the `reload addicts' that keep reloading,
waiting for the count to go up by one.
On 19/03/2010 14:06, Terry Coles wrote:
At this stage if 10,000 written requests are put to local politicians then
the bill will be required to be run through a more formal analysis that is
currently the case. Thats 10,000 people across the whole of the UK.
I didn't know that. Get writing
On Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:06:10 +, d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk said:
If the big-content owners could recognise that their business model
is out-dated, out-moded and failing
But they never do. The entertainment industry are the people that opposed
CDs because they would allow exact copies to be
up to oppose the Digital Economy Bill
On Thursday 18 Mar 2010, Simon O'Riordan wrote:
Is this the one that makes ISP's into censors and requires licenses for
us?
I wasn't aware that we would need licenses, but the bit I don't like is
that
the content providers accuse the user and the ISP
Today it was reported that the new Digital Economy Bill has passed through the
Lords, (http://www.eweekeurope.co.uk/news/digital-economy-bill-approved-by-
lords-5919) so it will become law before the election if nothing is done about
it.
If, like me, you disagree with this law, then consider
Is this the one that makes ISP's into censors and requires licenses for us?
- Original Message -
From: Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk
To: Dorset Linux User Group dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 7:54 PM
Subject: [Dorset] OT: Sign up to oppose the Digital
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