Re: [Dorset] Raspberry Pi
On Sunday 04 Mar 2012 15:53:01 madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: I'll get to try.For my Birthday I got a chocolate cake and a confirmation of an order of a raspberry pi for me. All I need now is a USB keyboard/mouse, and an HDMI to svga converter, and probably a few other bits! Keep us posted. BTW. Your post had me totally bamboozled for a while. You put your response beneath the two 'hyphens' that denote the start of the sig, so every time I hit 'Reply' your words disappeared ;-) -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Raspberry Pi
On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 16:47 +, Terry Coles wrote: On Sunday 04 Mar 2012 15:53:01 madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: I'll get to try.For my Birthday I got a chocolate cake and a confirmation of an order of a raspberry pi for me. All I need now is a USB keyboard/mouse, and an HDMI to svga converter, and probably a few other bits! Keep us posted. BTW. Your post had me totally bamboozled for a while. You put your response beneath the two 'hyphens' that denote the start of the sig, so every time I hit 'Reply' your words disappeared ;-) Interesting. I was doing it on-line as I did not have access to my 'office' as it was Mother-in-Law and Granddaughter's bedroom for the weekend. I was pruning out what I thought was a bit of excess in order to minimize the email size. So these two hyphens have a purpose and shouldn't be used in the middle of emails in case they stimulate the addition of extra material? Peter M. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Raspberry Pi
On Monday 05 Mar 2012 17:10:06 Peter Merchant wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 16:47 +, Terry Coles wrote: On Sunday 04 Mar 2012 15:53:01 madsmad...@netscape.net wrote: BTW. Your post had me totally bamboozled for a while. You put your response beneath the two 'hyphens' that denote the start of the sig, so every time I hit 'Reply' your words disappeared ;-) Interesting. I was doing it on-line as I did not have access to my 'office' as it was Mother-in-Law and Granddaughter's bedroom for the weekend. I was pruning out what I thought was a bit of excess in order to minimize the email size. So these two hyphens have a purpose and shouldn't be used in the middle of emails in case they stimulate the addition of extra material? Absolutely, when men were men and all mail clients obeyed the RFCs, those two hyphens delineated the end of the message and the beginning of the Sig. 'Proper' Clients, like KMail, still remove the chaff in the Sig, but MS Clients and Webmail tools generally don't understand them. -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Email Sig. (Was: Raspberry Pi)
Hi Terry, Absolutely, when men were men and all mail clients obeyed the RFCs, those two hyphens delineated the end of the message and the beginning of the Sig. There should be a single space after the `--' too before the end-of-line. I've set up the list's signature to have that but a bug in the old version of Mailman that lug.org.uk means it's stripped off before sending. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_signature#E-mail_and_Usenet Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows
Hi, My niece has just bought herself an external USB drive so she can backup her files. She doesn't know much about it, apart from that she needs to take backups (a huge step forward I think). She's asked me for a good backup program. I used to use a good one on my daughter's computer, but when her hard disk failed, it turned out that she hadn't been running it anyway and she lost everything (including the name of the backup software I'd installed). As a result I can't find the darn thing. So I'm looking for a good Windows Backup program than does incremental backups (not sync) to external drives. My niece is quite switched on, so I'm sure she'll get the hang of it without too much difficulty, but (like anything) if using it is too clunky she'll stop. It needs therefore to be reasonably easy to get working for a lay person and also to get data back when needed. Any ideas? -- Terry Coles 64 bit computing with Kubuntu Linux -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows
On 05/03/12 21:40, Terry Coles wrote: So I'm looking for a good Windows Backup program than does incremental backups (not sync) to external drives. My niece is quite switched on, so I'm sure she'll get the hang of it without too much difficulty, but (like anything) if using it is too clunky she'll stop. It needs therefore to be reasonably easy to get working for a lay person and also to get data back when needed. Any ideas? Cygwin + rdiff-backup? Can be run on demand from a shortcut or on a schedule. IIRC, the syntax to create a backup is pretty much 'rdiff-backup $source $destination'. In case you haven't used rdiff-backup before, you'll end up with a copy of the files which can be recovered easily using regular file-system tools (the sync method you said you didn't want ;) ) but as well as that you can recover to any point at which you created a backup, as it stores diffs or similar. Of course as it never deletes anything automatically the disk might run out of space if there are lots of changes, but it is possible to remove older backups somehow. I don't know how as I haven't run out of space on my rdiff-backup target yet so I haven't needed to look up how to do it. :) -- Andrew. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows
I am using Backup , running on Ubuntu, to a Verbatim drive plugged into a USB socket. It is clever enough to delay if the drive is not plugged in and then to do the backup (automatically) when the drive is eventually plugged in at some later time. Regards, Nic On Mon, 2012-03-05 at 21:40 +, Terry Coles wrote: Hi, My niece has just bought herself an external USB drive so she can backup her files. She doesn't know much about it, apart from that she needs to take backups (a huge step forward I think). She's asked me for a good backup program. I used to use a good one on my daughter's computer, but when her hard disk failed, it turned out that she hadn't been running it anyway and she lost everything (including the name of the backup software I'd installed). As a result I can't find the darn thing. So I'm looking for a good Windows Backup program than does incremental backups (not sync) to external drives. My niece is quite switched on, so I'm sure she'll get the hang of it without too much difficulty, but (like anything) if using it is too clunky she'll stop. It needs therefore to be reasonably easy to get working for a lay person and also to get data back when needed. Any ideas? -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] Email Sig. (Was: Raspberry Pi)
On Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:11:26 -, Terry Coles d-...@hadrian-way.co.uk wrote: On Monday 05 Mar 2012 17:51:36 Ralph Corderoy wrote: There should be a single space after the `--' too before the end-of-line. I've set up the list's signature to have that but a bug in the old version of Mailman that lug.org.uk means it's stripped off before sending. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Email_signature#E-mail_and_Usenet Coo. I never knew that there was supposed to be a space and I've been using email clients since 1993. When I actually highlight the 'cut lines' the space is obvious. I suppose that since I've never had to put the 'cut lines' in manually, I had no reason to see it. http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc3676 For young whipper-snappers like me, it's an interesting read (skim really) -- Robert Bronsdon -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
[Dorset] Bournemouth Pub Meeting Tonight, Tuesday 2012-03-06.
It's Tuesday! All day. Bournemouth pub meet tonight at The Broadway at 8pm. http://dorset.lug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=meetings:pub For those that haven't been before look out for Terry's tiny Tux spreadeagled on the table. http://dorset.lug.org.uk/wiki/doku.php?id=members#terry_coles As the first web page above says, we are often in the pub's snug, a small room off one end of the bar. But it isn't reserved for us so we're sometimes to be hunted down elsewhere. Cheers, Ralph. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
Re: [Dorset] OT: Backup Software for Windows
I use an online service called backblaZe $50 a year . Works well just sits in the background .. Free email restore for a smaller restotes and then its a USB or hd delivery if u need more Others are uk based and I'd suggest this over a local drive which can also die on u On Monday, 5 March 2012, Andrew Morgan zil...@ziltro.com wrote: On 05/03/12 21:40, Terry Coles wrote: So I'm looking for a good Windows Backup program than does incremental backups (not sync) to external drives. My niece is quite switched on, so I'm sure she'll get the hang of it without too much difficulty, but (like anything) if using it is too clunky she'll stop. It needs therefore to be reasonably easy to get working for a lay person and also to get data back when needed. Any ideas? Cygwin + rdiff-backup? Can be run on demand from a shortcut or on a schedule. IIRC, the syntax to create a backup is pretty much 'rdiff-backup $source $destination'. In case you haven't used rdiff-backup before, you'll end up with a copy of the files which can be recovered easily using regular file-system tools (the sync method you said you didn't want ;) ) but as well as that you can recover to any point at which you created a backup, as it stores diffs or similar. Of course as it never deletes anything automatically the disk might run out of space if there are lots of changes, but it is possible to remove older backups somehow. I don't know how as I haven't run out of space on my rdiff-backup target yet so I haven't needed to look up how to do it. :) -- Andrew. -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue -- -- Martin Hepworth Oxford, UK -- Next meeting: Bournemouth, Tuesday 2012-03-06 20:00 Meets, Mailing list, IRC, LinkedIn, ... http://dorset.lug.org.uk/ New thread on mailing list: mailto:dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk How to Report Bugs Effectively: http://goo.gl/4Xue
