Re: [Dorset] Very slow Desktop startup problem

2019-07-04 Thread C Wills
Hi Ralph Had a few minutes earlier so looked at the partions on the PC, details are:- sda1   Ext4    Mount= /   size 25GB    flag= boot sda2 "   --   size 72GB label= Homebackup sda3 "    Mount= /Home  size 196GB sda4   swap  

Re: [Dorset] ed, vi et al

2019-07-04 Thread Tim Waugh
On Thu, 4 Jul 2019 at 15:16, Ralph Corderoy wrote: > That CP/M manual also has a list of control characters, page 20 of 26. > Ctrl-L and Ctrl-Z I understand. Ctrl-C is ‘system reboot’. Seems a bit > severe. At least the Break key was out on a corner on the BBC Micro, > Sun's keyboards, etc. >

Re: [Dorset] ed, vi et al

2019-07-04 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Bob, > On reason you had ed on early machines and Vi on later can be seen by > examining the code size of even modern builds. Right, given the small amount of RAM on early machines, ed fitted where bigger programs couldn't. IIRC vi or its predecessor caused performance problems on some machin

Re: [Dorset] ed, vi et al

2019-07-04 Thread Bob Dunlop
Hi, On reason you had ed on early machines and Vi on later can be seen by examining the code size of even modern builds. Ignoring common OS libraries you have: ed textdata bss dec hex filename 4350911442248 46901b735 /bin/ed nvi textdata bss dec

Re: [Dorset] Links from 2019-07-02's Pub Meet.

2019-07-04 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Tim, > PeterMerchant wrote: > > edlin on DOS boxes. I've never used Edlin, and hardly used DOS/Windows, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edlin suggests it's far inferior to its predecessor ed(1). No regular expressions, no symbolic names, ‘marks’, for lines, no ‘global’ command, e.g. ‘g/foo[

Re: [Dorset] Links from 2019-07-02's Pub Meet.

2019-07-04 Thread PeterMerchant via dorset
Incidentally, a pair of floppy disk drives with PSU, interface card and CP/M cost around £800 in 1983 - £2288 today according to https://www.inflationtool.com/british-pound Tim So My BBC Micro model B in 1983 (£399)  would cost £ 1144 today. That's a lot of money but I am not sorry that w

Re: [Dorset] Links from 2019-07-02's Pub Meet.

2019-07-04 Thread tda
On 03/07/2019 21:01, PeterMerchant via dorset wrote: I remember ed. I don't think that I have used it for about 30 years and I can't remember what OS that was on.  I did use ed, but also edlin on DOS boxes. I remember reading the CP/M ed manual in horror in the early 1980's (on a home-built