Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-09 Thread Terry Coles
On 09/12/2023 08:49, Terry Coles wrote: 'Important Change for Sending Emails with Sender Addresses Using Domains that are Different Sender Addresses.' Doh!..  That wasn't the original title at all.  It was, and still is: 'Important Change for Sending Emails with Different Sender Addresses'

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-09 Thread Terry Coles
On 07/12/2023 13:13, Terry Coles wrote: On 07/12/2023 12:56, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Talk to IONOS. If they persist in restricting their service then withdraw your custom to send them a price signal. :-) I've just despatched a complaint and threatened that very thing. Surprise, surprise; they

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-07 Thread Tim
On 07/12/2023 12:56, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Hi Terry, As I said, I’m surprised that any hosting provider allows otherwise these days. Hugh, Can you please explain to me why using an alias (which has previously been set up as a mail forward) is a security risk? Can anyone explain this? I

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On 07/12/2023 12:56, Ralph Corderoy wrote: Talk to IONOS. If they persist in restricting their service then withdraw your custom to send them a price signal. :-) I've just despatched a complaint and threatened that very thing. -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Online, Jitsi, Tuesday,

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-07 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Terry, > > > As I said, I’m surprised that any hosting provider allows > > > otherwise these days. > > > > Hugh, > > > > Can you please explain to me why using an alias (which has > > previously been set up as a mail forward) is a security risk? > > Can anyone explain this? I don't see the

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On 07/12/2023 12:17, Terry Coles wrote: I still cannot understand where the security risk lies, so maybe it's time to ask IONOS. At least I won't be asking them to explain something that is obvious to everyone else, which was my initial concern. I just spoke to IONOS Support, who were

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-07 Thread Terry Coles
On 07/12/2023 12:10, Stephen Wolff wrote: I don’t think you’re being dense no, but emails can be cryptographically signed and also encrypted. Not sure if you can sign an alias. I'm aware that the *messages* can be encrypted and/or signed with a cryptographic signature, but that has nothing

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-07 Thread Stephen Wolff
I don’t think you’re being dense no, but emails can be cryptographically signed and also encrypted. Not sure if you can sign an alias. > On 7 Dec 2023, at 07:09, Terry Coles wrote: > > On 07/12/2023 07:03, Stephen Wolff wrote: >> My guess is if you can have an alias which isn’t

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-06 Thread Terry Coles
On 07/12/2023 07:03, Stephen Wolff wrote: My guess is if you can have an alias which isn’t (cryptographically) signed, you can pretend to be whoever you like, and as such spam folk as your best friend or worst enemy. I suppose the alternative is to use a mail service like Proton or something?

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-06 Thread Stephen Wolff
>> Can you please explain to me why using an alias (which has previously been >> set up as a mail forward) is a security risk? > Can anyone explain this? My guess is if you can have an alias which isn’t (cryptographically) signed, you can pretend to be whoever you like, and as such spam folk as

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-06 Thread Terry Coles
On 06/12/2023 10:38, Terry Coles wrote: On 06/12/2023 10:29, Hugh Frater wrote: As I said, I’m surprised that any hosting provider allows otherwise these days. Hugh, Can you please explain to me why using an alias (which has previously been set up as a mail forward) is a security risk?

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-06 Thread Terry Coles
On 06/12/2023 10:29, Hugh Frater wrote: As I said, I’m surprised that any hosting provider allows otherwise these days. Hugh, Can you please explain to me why using an alias (which has previously been set up as a mail forward) is a security risk? -- Terry Coles -- Next meeting: Online,

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-06 Thread Hugh Frater
Yeah, that’s what I figured Terry was trying to do. I know fasthosts don’t let us do this for our work domain. The from address must exist as a mailbox, and smtp auth is required on the server for that mailbox (obviously).. As I said, I’m surprised that any hosting provider allows otherwise these

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-06 Thread Terry Coles
On 06/12/2023 10:16, Ralph Corderoy wrote: I think Terry's complaint is he has his own domain name and pays IONOS to host it. He expect to be able to use anyth...@his-domain.com. He isn't trying to use other domain names. If switching provider, these two firms have good reputations.

Re: [Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-06 Thread Ralph Corderoy
Hi Hugh, > I thought all hosting providers did this about 10 years ago? I think Terry's complaint is he has his own domain name and pays IONOS to host it. He expect to be able to use anyth...@his-domain.com. He isn't trying to use other domain names. If switching provider, these two firms have

[Dorset] IONOS Appears to be Banning the use of Identities (Aliases)

2023-12-06 Thread Terry Coles
Hi, I received a message from my hosting provider, IONOS which appears to state that they are banning the use of Identities. Having drilled down through the various layers of their message, I reached the following link, which pertains to users of Thunderbird: