Re: [Dorset] USB 1-2 problem - post 3

2011-03-15 Thread Peter Merchant
On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 17:13 +, Peter Merchant wrote:
 On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 14:20 +, Andrew Morgan wrote:
  I believe keyboards  mice are all USB 1.1. I have some USB 1.1 devices 
  working on Ubuntu.
  
  If it is a 54mbit (or faster) USB device then I would expect it to be 
  USB 2, otherwise it is limited to 11 Mb/s or thereabouts.
  
  'lsusb -v' will show you a lot of information. The 'bcdUSB' lines show 
  you the USB version in use by a particular device.
  
 
 Interesting: 
 
 peterm@peterm-desktop:~$ lsusb -v
 
 Bus 004 Device 003: ID 050d:705c Belkin Components F5D7050 Wireless G
 Adapter v4000 [Zydas ZD1211B]
 Device Descriptor:
   bLength18
   bDescriptorType 1
   bcdUSB   2.00**  
   bDeviceClass  255 Vendor Specific Class
   bDeviceSubClass   255 Vendor Specific Subclass
   bDeviceProtocol   255 Vendor Specific Protocol
   bMaxPacketSize064
   idVendor   0x050d Belkin Components
   idProduct  0x705c F5D7050 Wireless G Adapter v4000 [Zydas
 ZD1211B]
   bcdDevice   48.10
   iManufacturer  16 
   iProduct   32 
   iSerial 0 
   bNumConfigurations  1

 wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
 bInterval   0
 can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
 can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
 cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
 
 Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Device Descriptor:
   bLength18
   bDescriptorType 1
   bcdUSB   1.10
   bDeviceClass9 Hub
   bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused
 .
 bInterval 255
 can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
 cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
 
 Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Device Descriptor:
   bLength18
   bDescriptorType 1
   bcdUSB   1.10
   bDeviceClass9 Hub
 .
 bInterval 255
 can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
 cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
 
 Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
 Device Descriptor:
   bLength18
   bDescriptorType 1
   bcdUSB   1.10
   bDeviceClass9 Hub
 .
 bInterval 255
 can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
 cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
 peterm@peterm-desktop:~$ 
 
 Interesting that the Belkin identifies itself as USB 2.0, but will only
 work after the commands previously mentioned, and all the other ports
 say that they are now(?) USB 1.10
 
 
 More tests needed
 P.

More tests. Belkin one is without performing the commands specified in
post 1.

No devices attached
---

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10

Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10
  bDeviceClass9 Hub


Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10
  bDeviceClass9 Hub
  

Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00 * Note variation on USB Versions


ZyXEL attached
--

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10
  bDeviceClass9 Hub


Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10
  bDeviceClass9 Hub
  

Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10
  bDeviceClass9 Hub


Bus 001 Device 002: ID 0586:3410 ZyXEL Communications Corp. ZyAIR G-202
802.11bg
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00

  idVendor   0x0586 ZyXEL Communications Corp.
  idProduct  0x3410 ZyAIR G-202 802.11bg
  bcdDevice   48.10


Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00
  bDeviceClass9 Hub


Belkin Attached


Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device 

[Dorset] USB 1-2 problem

2011-03-14 Thread Peter Merchant
I recently bought off ebay a Belkin Wireless USB stick, as I had
borrowed one and tried it and it worked beautifully. 

This one is a F5D7050 v4003 which has the same chipset (ZD1211) as my
ZyXEL wireless USB stick. However when I plug in the Belkin, DMESG gets
stuffed with the message
  “unable to enumerate USB device in port 3.”  Which a bit of research
seems to indicate is due to only supporting USB 1. 

I tried it under XP and it works fine. I even get the message that this
device would work faster if plugged into a USB 2 port. I begin to wonder
if this is a wobbly in XP that it cannot determine which port is USB 1,
it's own or the remote?

A search on the Internet brought me to:
http://www.absolutelytech.com/2010/04/18/solved-unable-to-enumerate-usb-device-disabling-ehci_hcd/

Where the 'cure' is to do the following before inserting the device.

cd /sys/bus/pci/drivers/ehci_hcd
ls
sudo sh -c 'echo -n :00:xx.x  unbind'
Now plug in the device and it works. 

1. The question is - Does Kubuntu 10.10 not support USB 1 devices, or is
the selection of version of USB faulty?

2. Belkin support tells me that this is a USB 2 device. Do you think
that it is possible that they have a fault with the implementation of
USB on this device (and this device only)?

3. How can I test which version of USB is implemented on a device, aside
from the above(!)  [ somewhere I have the spec downloaded for USB 1, but
God knows where - that was years ago]

Peter M. 





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Re: [Dorset] USB 1-2 problem

2011-03-14 Thread Andrew Morgan
I believe keyboards  mice are all USB 1.1. I have some USB 1.1 devices 
working on Ubuntu.


If it is a 54mbit (or faster) USB device then I would expect it to be 
USB 2, otherwise it is limited to 11 Mb/s or thereabouts.


'lsusb -v' will show you a lot of information. The 'bcdUSB' lines show 
you the USB version in use by a particular device.


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Re: [Dorset] USB 1-2 problem

2011-03-14 Thread Peter Merchant
On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 14:20 +, Andrew Morgan wrote:
 I believe keyboards  mice are all USB 1.1. I have some USB 1.1 devices 
 working on Ubuntu.
 
 If it is a 54mbit (or faster) USB device then I would expect it to be 
 USB 2, otherwise it is limited to 11 Mb/s or thereabouts.
 
 'lsusb -v' will show you a lot of information. The 'bcdUSB' lines show 
 you the USB version in use by a particular device.
 

Interesting: 

peterm@peterm-desktop:~$ lsusb -v

Bus 004 Device 003: ID 050d:705c Belkin Components F5D7050 Wireless G
Adapter v4000 [Zydas ZD1211B]
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   2.00**  
  bDeviceClass  255 Vendor Specific Class
  bDeviceSubClass   255 Vendor Specific Subclass
  bDeviceProtocol   255 Vendor Specific Protocol
  bMaxPacketSize064
  idVendor   0x050d Belkin Components
  idProduct  0x705c F5D7050 Wireless G Adapter v4000 [Zydas
ZD1211B]
  bcdDevice   48.10
  iManufacturer  16 
  iProduct   32 
  iSerial 0 
  bNumConfigurations  1
   
wMaxPacketSize 0x0040  1x 64 bytes
bInterval   0
can't get device qualifier: Operation not permitted
can't get debug descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)

Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10
  bDeviceClass9 Hub
  bDeviceSubClass 0 Unused
.
bInterval 255
can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)

Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10
  bDeviceClass9 Hub
.
bInterval 255
can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)

Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Device Descriptor:
  bLength18
  bDescriptorType 1
  bcdUSB   1.10
  bDeviceClass9 Hub
.
bInterval 255
can't get hub descriptor: Operation not permitted
cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1)
peterm@peterm-desktop:~$ 

Interesting that the Belkin identifies itself as USB 2.0, but will only
work after the commands previously mentioned, and all the other ports
say that they are now(?) USB 1.10


More tests needed
P.



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Re: [Dorset] USB 1-2 problem

2011-03-14 Thread Chris Dennis

On 14/03/11 17:13, Peter Merchant wrote:

On Mon, 2011-03-14 at 14:20 +, Andrew Morgan wrote:

I believe keyboards  mice are all USB 1.1. I have some USB 1.1 devices
working on Ubuntu.

If it is a 54mbit (or faster) USB device then I would expect it to be
USB 2, otherwise it is limited to 11 Mb/s or thereabouts.

'lsusb -v' will show you a lot of information. The 'bcdUSB' lines show
you the USB version in use by a particular device.



Interesting:

peterm@peterm-desktop:~$ lsusb -v


lsusb -v needs to be run as root to show all the information.  (but 
maybe you knew that :)


cheers

Chris
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Fordingbridge, Hampshire, UK

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