Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-11-01 Thread Peter Merchant

Just a further note. My phone is Android 13, and the tablet we saw this morning 
is Android 10, but don't touch an Android 12 one. They are totally different 
and hard to get the hang of.

Peter

On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:

Hi,

After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet!  Ideally it would be one 
that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed are good resolution and 
plenty of contrast.

The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally speaking, I'm OK 
with distance vision, but reading small text on coloured backgrounds is 
becoming increasingly difficult.  This means that my magazine subscriptions are 
largely wasted because I cannot read them.

However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my wife's iPad and 
on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet is probably the most 
convenient solution.  If possible, I don't want to spend a fortune, so Samsung 
Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are out, and in any case the performance of this 
type of device is probably way over the top for reading a magazine.  However, I 
am prepared to pay for the kind of performance I need, hence this query.

Thanks in anticipation.




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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-11-01 Thread Hugh Frater
I use the paper like screen protector on the iPad, mainly because I like to
do sketching (badly) using the rather fantastic Apple Pencil.

It transforms it into a nice Matt surface.


Sent from my iPhone


On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 11:55, Terry Coles  wrote:

> Peter,
>
> I stopped using screen protectors with the advent of gorilla glass some
> years ago.  Obviously, I'd rather have a tablet with a matt screen and a
> non-scratch surface, but if all else fails...
>
> Terry
>
> On 01/11/2023 11:31, Peter Merchant wrote:
> > Look up 'anti-glare tablet screen protectors' on Amazon/ebay.
> > P.
> > On 01/11/2023 11:29, Terry Coles wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> So I met up with Peter this morning and had a look at his Lenovo
> >> Tablets (Thanks Peter).  For me, the main show-stopper with these is
> >> the shiny screen.  I tend to read magazines at the breakfast bar in
> >> the kitchen, and the kitchen has downlights, making the text very
> >> difficult to see unless I angle the device to avoid the reflections.
> >>
> >> My wife's iPad Air (circa 2019/20) also has reflections, but much
> >> less, so I can read it easily.  I would still rather not have an
> >> Apple device, so what about the alternatives; are there any out there
> >> that don't have a shiny screen?  I will be calling into PC World
> >> later to see what is on offer, but if anyone has any tips I would
> >> appreciate it.
> >>
> >> Terry
> >>
> >> On 30/10/2023 13:14, Peter Merchant wrote:
> >>> WE have had a few, and I have been happy with Lenovo ones. I once
> >>> had a 10" one, but it was eminently droppable, so I now have an 8"
> >>> one. I recently bought Val a new 8" one, but it has Android 12 and
> >>> is a pain to use. I recommend an 8" one over the 7" ones as it is
> >>> significantly larger. Looking at my list, my tablet is Android 10
> >>> and my phone Android 13, and both are easy to use.
> >>>
> >>> I suggest that we meet for coffee somewhere and you can have a play
> >>> before committing. I got our latest from Currys for about £89. Via
> >>> Quidco!
> >>>
> >>> cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Peter
> >>>
> >>> On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:
>  Hi,
> 
>  After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet! Ideally it
>  would be one that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed
>  are good resolution and plenty of contrast.
> 
>  The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally
>  speaking, I'm OK with distance vision, but reading small text on
>  coloured backgrounds is becoming increasingly difficult. This means
>  that my magazine subscriptions are largely wasted because I cannot
>  read them.
> 
>  However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my
>  wife's iPad and on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet
>  is probably the most convenient solution.  If possible, I don't
>  want to spend a fortune, so Samsung Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are
>  out, and in any case the performance of this type of device is
>  probably way over the top for reading a magazine. However, I am
>  prepared to pay for the kind of performance I need, hence this query.
> 
>  Thanks in anticipation.
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-11-01 Thread Terry Coles

Peter,

I stopped using screen protectors with the advent of gorilla glass some 
years ago.  Obviously, I'd rather have a tablet with a matt screen and a 
non-scratch surface, but if all else fails...


Terry

On 01/11/2023 11:31, Peter Merchant wrote:

Look up 'anti-glare tablet screen protectors' on Amazon/ebay.
P.
On 01/11/2023 11:29, Terry Coles wrote:

Hi,

So I met up with Peter this morning and had a look at his Lenovo 
Tablets (Thanks Peter).  For me, the main show-stopper with these is 
the shiny screen.  I tend to read magazines at the breakfast bar in 
the kitchen, and the kitchen has downlights, making the text very 
difficult to see unless I angle the device to avoid the reflections.


My wife's iPad Air (circa 2019/20) also has reflections, but much 
less, so I can read it easily.  I would still rather not have an 
Apple device, so what about the alternatives; are there any out there 
that don't have a shiny screen?  I will be calling into PC World 
later to see what is on offer, but if anyone has any tips I would 
appreciate it.


Terry

On 30/10/2023 13:14, Peter Merchant wrote:
WE have had a few, and I have been happy with Lenovo ones. I once 
had a 10" one, but it was eminently droppable, so I now have an 8" 
one. I recently bought Val a new 8" one, but it has Android 12 and 
is a pain to use. I recommend an 8" one over the 7" ones as it is 
significantly larger. Looking at my list, my tablet is Android 10 
and my phone Android 13, and both are easy to use.


I suggest that we meet for coffee somewhere and you can have a play 
before committing. I got our latest from Currys for about £89. Via 
Quidco!


cheers,

Peter

On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:

Hi,

After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet! Ideally it 
would be one that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed 
are good resolution and plenty of contrast.


The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally 
speaking, I'm OK with distance vision, but reading small text on 
coloured backgrounds is becoming increasingly difficult. This means 
that my magazine subscriptions are largely wasted because I cannot 
read them.


However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my 
wife's iPad and on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet 
is probably the most convenient solution.  If possible, I don't 
want to spend a fortune, so Samsung Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are 
out, and in any case the performance of this type of device is 
probably way over the top for reading a magazine. However, I am 
prepared to pay for the kind of performance I need, hence this query.


Thanks in anticipation.








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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-11-01 Thread Stephen Wolff
Yes - there’s this for iPad: https://paperlike.com/products/paperlike-for-ipad

On 1 Nov 2023, at 11:31, Peter Merchant wrote:

> Look up 'anti-glare tablet screen protectors' on Amazon/ebay.
> P.
> On 01/11/2023 11:29, Terry Coles wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> So I met up with Peter this morning and had a look at his Lenovo Tablets 
>> (Thanks Peter).  For me, the main show-stopper with these is the shiny 
>> screen.  I tend to read magazines at the breakfast bar in the kitchen, and 
>> the kitchen has downlights, making the text very difficult to see unless I 
>> angle the device to avoid the reflections.
>>
>> My wife's iPad Air (circa 2019/20) also has reflections, but much less, so I 
>> can read it easily.  I would still rather not have an Apple device, so what 
>> about the alternatives; are there any out there that don't have a shiny 
>> screen?  I will be calling into PC World later to see what is on offer, but 
>> if anyone has any tips I would appreciate it.
>>
>> Terry
>>
>> On 30/10/2023 13:14, Peter Merchant wrote:
>>> WE have had a few, and I have been happy with Lenovo ones. I once had a 10" 
>>> one, but it was eminently droppable, so I now have an 8" one. I recently 
>>> bought Val a new 8" one, but it has Android 12 and is a pain to use. I 
>>> recommend an 8" one over the 7" ones as it is significantly larger. Looking 
>>> at my list, my tablet is Android 10 and my phone Android 13, and both are 
>>> easy to use.
>>>
>>> I suggest that we meet for coffee somewhere and you can have a play before 
>>> committing. I got our latest from Currys for about £89. Via Quidco!
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:
 Hi,

 After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet!  Ideally it would be 
 one that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed are good 
 resolution and plenty of contrast.

 The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally speaking, I'm 
 OK with distance vision, but reading small text on coloured backgrounds is 
 becoming increasingly difficult. This means that my magazine subscriptions 
 are largely wasted because I cannot read them.

 However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my wife's iPad 
 and on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet is probably the most 
 convenient solution.  If possible, I don't want to spend a fortune, so 
 Samsung Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are out, and in any case the 
 performance of this type of device is probably way over the top for 
 reading a magazine. However, I am prepared to pay for the kind of 
 performance I need, hence this query.

 Thanks in anticipation.

>>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-11-01 Thread Peter Merchant

Look up 'anti-glare tablet screen protectors' on Amazon/ebay.
P.
On 01/11/2023 11:29, Terry Coles wrote:

Hi,

So I met up with Peter this morning and had a look at his Lenovo Tablets 
(Thanks Peter).  For me, the main show-stopper with these is the shiny screen.  
I tend to read magazines at the breakfast bar in the kitchen, and the kitchen 
has downlights, making the text very difficult to see unless I angle the device 
to avoid the reflections.

My wife's iPad Air (circa 2019/20) also has reflections, but much less, so I 
can read it easily.  I would still rather not have an Apple device, so what 
about the alternatives; are there any out there that don't have a shiny screen? 
 I will be calling into PC World later to see what is on offer, but if anyone 
has any tips I would appreciate it.

Terry

On 30/10/2023 13:14, Peter Merchant wrote:

WE have had a few, and I have been happy with Lenovo ones. I once had a 10" one, but it was 
eminently droppable, so I now have an 8" one. I recently bought Val a new 8" one, but it has 
Android 12 and is a pain to use. I recommend an 8" one over the 7" ones as it is significantly 
larger. Looking at my list, my tablet is Android 10 and my phone Android 13, and both are easy to use.

I suggest that we meet for coffee somewhere and you can have a play before 
committing. I got our latest from Currys for about £89. Via Quidco!

cheers,

Peter

On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:

Hi,

After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet!  Ideally it would be one 
that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed are good resolution and 
plenty of contrast.

The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally speaking, I'm OK 
with distance vision, but reading small text on coloured backgrounds is 
becoming increasingly difficult. This means that my magazine subscriptions are 
largely wasted because I cannot read them.

However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my wife's iPad and 
on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet is probably the most 
convenient solution.  If possible, I don't want to spend a fortune, so Samsung 
Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are out, and in any case the performance of this 
type of device is probably way over the top for reading a magazine. However, I 
am prepared to pay for the kind of performance I need, hence this query.

Thanks in anticipation.







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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-11-01 Thread Terry Coles

Hi,

So I met up with Peter this morning and had a look at his Lenovo Tablets 
(Thanks Peter).  For me, the main show-stopper with these is the shiny 
screen.  I tend to read magazines at the breakfast bar in the kitchen, 
and the kitchen has downlights, making the text very difficult to see 
unless I angle the device to avoid the reflections.


My wife's iPad Air (circa 2019/20) also has reflections, but much less, 
so I can read it easily.  I would still rather not have an Apple device, 
so what about the alternatives; are there any out there that don't have 
a shiny screen?  I will be calling into PC World later to see what is on 
offer, but if anyone has any tips I would appreciate it.


Terry

On 30/10/2023 13:14, Peter Merchant wrote:
WE have had a few, and I have been happy with Lenovo ones. I once had 
a 10" one, but it was eminently droppable, so I now have an 8" one. I 
recently bought Val a new 8" one, but it has Android 12 and is a pain 
to use. I recommend an 8" one over the 7" ones as it is significantly 
larger.  Looking at my list, my tablet is Android 10 and my phone 
Android 13, and both are easy to use.


I suggest that we meet for coffee somewhere and you can have a play 
before committing. I got our latest from Currys for about £89. Via 
Quidco!


cheers,

Peter

On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:

Hi,

After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet!  Ideally it 
would be one that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed are 
good resolution and plenty of contrast.


The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally 
speaking, I'm OK with distance vision, but reading small text on 
coloured backgrounds is becoming increasingly difficult.  This means 
that my magazine subscriptions are largely wasted because I cannot 
read them.


However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my wife's 
iPad and on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet is 
probably the most convenient solution.  If possible, I don't want to 
spend a fortune, so Samsung Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are out, and 
in any case the performance of this type of device is probably way 
over the top for reading a magazine. However, I am prepared to pay 
for the kind of performance I need, hence this query.


Thanks in anticipation.





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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-10-31 Thread Peter Merchant

I have bought used/refurbished stuff locally- Ferndown Industrial Estate, from 
Elf.co.uk. Remember that their price list is ex-VAT.   Their prices are not 
that hot, but they are local.

Peter



On 31/10/2023 06:39, Stephen Wolff wrote:

I have to agree - if you can get over any Apple aversion, the iPad is worth 
considering. My wife (a violin teacher) is very happy with the larger iPad Pro 
(an earlier generation to reduce extortionate cost) - for storing and reading 
musical scores. It saves on the agro of never being able to find a piece of 
music, which previously were often not put away in the right place, is very 
hard to find! Might be overkill for magazines though

On 30 Oct 2023, at 17:09, Hugh Frater wrote:


I hate to say it, but having been through a tablet a year since the form
factor became a thing, I’ve settled on the smaller iPad Pro. This being my
second iPad.




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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-10-31 Thread Stephen Wolff
I have to agree - if you can get over any Apple aversion, the iPad is worth 
considering. My wife (a violin teacher) is very happy with the larger iPad Pro 
(an earlier generation to reduce extortionate cost) - for storing and reading 
musical scores. It saves on the agro of never being able to find a piece of 
music, which previously were often not put away in the right place, is very 
hard to find! Might be overkill for magazines though

On 30 Oct 2023, at 17:09, Hugh Frater wrote:

> I hate to say it, but having been through a tablet a year since the form
> factor became a thing, I’ve settled on the smaller iPad Pro. This being my
> second iPad.
>
> They are excellent devices, with a long lifespan and excellent hardware.
>
> I always buy them used/refurbished, usually the previous generation.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 16:35, Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty via dorset <
> dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Just a thought: I wonder if an E-ink tablet would be a good idea, though
>> the contrast might be lacking a bit for text-on-colour sections.
>>
>> Hamish
>>
>> On 30 October 2023 13:14:02 GMT, Peter Merchant 
>> wrote:
>>> WE have had a few, and I have been happy with Lenovo ones. I once had a
>> 10" one, but it was eminently droppable, so I now have an 8" one. I
>> recently bought Val a new 8" one, but it has Android 12 and is a pain to
>> use. I recommend an 8" one over the 7" ones as it is significantly larger.
>> Looking at my list, my tablet is Android 10 and my phone Android 13, and
>> both are easy to use.
>>>
>>> I suggest that we meet for coffee somewhere and you can have a play
>> before committing. I got our latest from Currys for about £89. Via Quidco!
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>
>>> Peter
>>>
>>> On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:
 Hi,

 After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet!  Ideally it would
>> be one that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed are good
>> resolution and plenty of contrast.

 The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally speaking,
>> I'm OK with distance vision, but reading small text on coloured backgrounds
>> is becoming increasingly difficult.  This means that my magazine
>> subscriptions are largely wasted because I cannot read them.

 However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my wife's
>> iPad and on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet is probably the
>> most convenient solution.  If possible, I don't want to spend a fortune, so
>> Samsung Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are out, and in any case the performance
>> of this type of device is probably way over the top for reading a
>> magazine.  However, I am prepared to pay for the kind of performance I
>> need, hence this query.

 Thanks in anticipation.

>>>
>>>
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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-10-30 Thread Hugh Frater
I hate to say it, but having been through a tablet a year since the form
factor became a thing, I’ve settled on the smaller iPad Pro. This being my
second iPad.

They are excellent devices, with a long lifespan and excellent hardware.

I always buy them used/refurbished, usually the previous generation.

Sent from my iPhone


On Mon, 30 Oct 2023 at 16:35, Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty via dorset <
dorset@mailman.lug.org.uk> wrote:

> Just a thought: I wonder if an E-ink tablet would be a good idea, though
> the contrast might be lacking a bit for text-on-colour sections.
>
> Hamish
>
> On 30 October 2023 13:14:02 GMT, Peter Merchant 
> wrote:
> >WE have had a few, and I have been happy with Lenovo ones. I once had a
> 10" one, but it was eminently droppable, so I now have an 8" one. I
> recently bought Val a new 8" one, but it has Android 12 and is a pain to
> use. I recommend an 8" one over the 7" ones as it is significantly larger.
> Looking at my list, my tablet is Android 10 and my phone Android 13, and
> both are easy to use.
> >
> >I suggest that we meet for coffee somewhere and you can have a play
> before committing. I got our latest from Currys for about £89. Via Quidco!
> >
> >cheers,
> >
> >Peter
> >
> >On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet!  Ideally it would
> be one that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed are good
> resolution and plenty of contrast.
> >>
> >> The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally speaking,
> I'm OK with distance vision, but reading small text on coloured backgrounds
> is becoming increasingly difficult.  This means that my magazine
> subscriptions are largely wasted because I cannot read them.
> >>
> >> However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my wife's
> iPad and on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet is probably the
> most convenient solution.  If possible, I don't want to spend a fortune, so
> Samsung Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are out, and in any case the performance
> of this type of device is probably way over the top for reading a
> magazine.  However, I am prepared to pay for the kind of performance I
> need, hence this query.
> >>
> >> Thanks in anticipation.
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-10-30 Thread Hamish McIntyre-Bhatty via dorset
Just a thought: I wonder if an E-ink tablet would be a good idea, though the 
contrast might be lacking a bit for text-on-colour sections.

Hamish

On 30 October 2023 13:14:02 GMT, Peter Merchant  
wrote:
>WE have had a few, and I have been happy with Lenovo ones. I once had a 10" 
>one, but it was eminently droppable, so I now have an 8" one. I recently 
>bought Val a new 8" one, but it has Android 12 and is a pain to use. I 
>recommend an 8" one over the 7" ones as it is significantly larger.  Looking 
>at my list, my tablet is Android 10 and my phone Android 13, and both are easy 
>to use.
>
>I suggest that we meet for coffee somewhere and you can have a play before 
>committing. I got our latest from Currys for about £89. Via Quidco!
>
>cheers,
>
>Peter
>
>On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet!  Ideally it would be 
>> one that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed are good resolution 
>> and plenty of contrast.
>> 
>> The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally speaking, I'm 
>> OK with distance vision, but reading small text on coloured backgrounds is 
>> becoming increasingly difficult.  This means that my magazine subscriptions 
>> are largely wasted because I cannot read them.
>> 
>> However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my wife's iPad 
>> and on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet is probably the most 
>> convenient solution.  If possible, I don't want to spend a fortune, so 
>> Samsung Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are out, and in any case the performance 
>> of this type of device is probably way over the top for reading a magazine.  
>> However, I am prepared to pay for the kind of performance I need, hence this 
>> query.
>> 
>> Thanks in anticipation.
>> 
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Re: [Dorset] Somewhat Off Topic - Can Anyone Recommend a Decent Tablet Computer?

2023-10-30 Thread Peter Merchant

WE have had a few, and I have been happy with Lenovo ones. I once had a 10" one, but it was 
eminently droppable, so I now have an 8" one. I recently bought Val a new 8" one, but it has 
Android 12 and is a pain to use. I recommend an 8" one over the 7" ones as it is significantly 
larger.  Looking at my list, my tablet is Android 10 and my phone Android 13, and both are easy to use.

I suggest that we meet for coffee somewhere and you can have a play before 
committing. I got our latest from Currys for about £89. Via Quidco!

cheers,

Peter

On 30/10/2023 10:18, Terry Coles wrote:

Hi,

After years of resistance, I'm going to get a tablet!  Ideally it would be one 
that ran Linux of course, but the main specs needed are good resolution and 
plenty of contrast.

The reason for this is my deteriorating eyesight.  Generally speaking, I'm OK 
with distance vision, but reading small text on coloured backgrounds is 
becoming increasingly difficult.  This means that my magazine subscriptions are 
largely wasted because I cannot read them.

However, I do know that I can read PDFs of the magazines on my wife's iPad and 
on my desktop monitor, so getting a decent tablet is probably the most 
convenient solution.  If possible, I don't want to spend a fortune, so Samsung 
Galaxy Tabs at circa £1000 are out, and in any case the performance of this 
type of device is probably way over the top for reading a magazine.  However, I 
am prepared to pay for the kind of performance I need, hence this query.

Thanks in anticipation.




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