Re: [Dovecot] Best inode_ratio for maildir++ on ext4

2010-02-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez put forth on 2/20/2010 12:18 AM: > I used to have the maildirs on ReiserFS and never had a problem with it, > but given the current state of that FS and that I weren't really > comfortable with it, I'll give XFS a try for the maildir array and the > postfix queue partitio

Re: [Dovecot] Best inode_ratio for maildir++ on ext4

2010-02-19 Thread Rodolfo Gonzalez Gonzalez
Noel Butler wrote: Agree wth XFS, providing, and a big providing, you have reliable and guaranteed power, hard powerouts on XFS are not known for their niceness and protection of data Bugger, hit enter too soon, was going to say, it is probably better than using EXT4 though, why on earth anyone

Re: [Dovecot] segfault - (imap|pop3)-login during nessus scan

2010-02-19 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 05:23 +0200, Timo Sirainen wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 15:28 -0600, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > > pop3-login[24451]: segfault at 000c rip 003c7de610a2 rsp > > 7fff07116968 error 4 BTW. I just tried with Nessus, but couldn't reproduce this. signature.asc D

Re: [Dovecot] segfault - (imap|pop3)-login during nessus scan

2010-02-19 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 15:28 -0600, Todd Rinaldo wrote: > pop3-login[24451]: segfault at 000c rip 003c7de610a2 rsp > 7fff07116968 error 4 > > I'm having a really hard time getting a core dump Yeah, it's difficult to get login processes to core dump. In v1.2 it's easier though.

Re: [Dovecot] Best inode_ratio for maildir++ on ext4

2010-02-19 Thread Noel Butler
Bugger, hit enter too soon, was going to say, it is probably better than using EXT4 though, why on earth anyone would use that on a serious production server I'll never know. On Sat, 2010-02-20 at 11:51 +1000, Noel Butler wrote: > On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 17:51 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > > > >

Re: [Dovecot] Best inode_ratio for maildir++ on ext4

2010-02-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 17:51 -0600, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > If your version of Ubuntu server has XFS support built in, forget ext4 and go > XFS. It's more reliable, faster in every single benchmark I've seen > especially > for large numbers of files, both large and small, has a ton of management

Re: [Dovecot] Best inode_ratio for maildir++ on ext4

2010-02-19 Thread Bernd Petrovitsch
Hi! On Fre, 2010-02-19 at 17:18 -0600, Rodolfo Gonzalez wrote: [...] > This might be a silly question: which would be Not at all IMHO. > the best inode ratio for a 5 Tb filesystem dedicated to Maildir++ > storage? I use ubuntu server, which has a preconfigured setting for > mkfs.ext4 called "news

Re: [Dovecot] Best inode_ratio for maildir++ on ext4

2010-02-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Rodolfo Gonzalez put forth on 2/19/2010 5:18 PM: > Hi, > > This might be a silly question: which would be > the best inode ratio for a 5 Tb filesystem dedicated to Maildir++ > storage? I use ubuntu server, which has a preconfigured setting for > mkfs.ext4 called "news" with inode_ratio = 4096, and

Re: [Dovecot] Highly Performance and Availability

2010-02-19 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Wayne Thursby put forth on 2/19/2010 3:40 PM: > Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread, it has been > very educational. > > Since my last post, I have had several meetings, including a conference > with Dell storage specialists. I have also gathered some metrics to beat > around.

[Dovecot] Best inode_ratio for maildir++ on ext4

2010-02-19 Thread Rodolfo Gonzalez
Hi, This might be a silly question: which would be the best inode ratio for a 5 Tb filesystem dedicated to Maildir++ storage? I use ubuntu server, which has a preconfigured setting for mkfs.ext4 called "news" with inode_ratio = 4096, and after formating the fs with that setting and then with the

Re: [Dovecot] Poll: Quota near full behavior? [Was: Feature request? Make deliver quota inclusive!]

2010-02-19 Thread Noel Butler
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 06:10 -0500, Charles Marcus wrote: > > > I certainly wouldn't want to accept a message in this case, user > > might be 1K under quota, but get 20m file now that might be a > > whoopie doo :) but what if 130K users did same. > > Well, I'd argue that if you're allowing mess

Re: [Dovecot] Highly Performance and Availability

2010-02-19 Thread Wayne Thursby
Thank you to everyone who has contributed to this thread, it has been very educational. Since my last post, I have had several meetings, including a conference with Dell storage specialists. I have also gathered some metrics to beat around. The EqualLogic units we are looking at are the baseline

[Dovecot] segfault - (imap|pop3)-login during nessus scan

2010-02-19 Thread Todd Rinaldo
We've been struggling with a problem for the past couple of days which to this point I've only gotten to be able to boil down to this: 1. Install nessus home edition (less pluggins I assume) 2. run all scans (sequentially or in parallel, doesn't seem to matter) 3. about 3 minutes in /var/log/mess

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot blog

2010-02-19 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 19.2.2010, at 19.56, Brandon Lamb wrote: >>> I was thinking that I could blog about: >> >> I for one will most likely enjoy reading whatever you deem worthy of >> blogging about. Thanks Timo! > > Now where is the "Like" button to this thread In the blog itself? ;) (Apparently I should repla

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot blog

2010-02-19 Thread Brandon Lamb
On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 8:14 AM, Charles Marcus wrote: > On 2010-02-19 9:20 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote: >> http://blog.dovecot.org/ >> >> I was thinking that I could blog about: > > I for one will most likely enjoy reading whatever you deem worthy of > blogging about. Thanks Timo! > > -- > > Best reg

[Dovecot] namespaces/virtual folder & archiving

2010-02-19 Thread fernando
Hi, I was following the earlier namespaces discussion and I would like to repost a doubt. I need to have some kind of archiving, it means, store old messages into a cheap storage. But I couldn´t think any other solution than symlinks. Then, I thought about store 'Sent Items' (as having old messa

[Dovecot] quota and lazy_expunge plugins both used: quotas go wrong with lazy_expunge'd mails

2010-02-19 Thread Baptiste Malguy
Hello, I may have missed a point, but I could have found an issue between plugins quota and lazy_expunge. I have noticed that the "lazy_expunge"d mails are counted as part of the quota, while the documentation says it should not be. I have first tried to find out if this was a configuration mista

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot blog

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-02-19 9:20 AM, Timo Sirainen wrote: > http://blog.dovecot.org/ > > I was thinking that I could blog about: I for one will most likely enjoy reading whatever you deem worthy of blogging about. Thanks Timo! -- Best regards, Charles

Re: [Dovecot] Client behaviour with sieve

2010-02-19 Thread Gregory Finch
On 2010-02-19 6:33 AM, Roderick A. Anderson wrote: > Steffen Kaiser wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Koenraad Lelong wrote: >> >>> Is this the expected behaviour ? >> >> Yes. >> >>> Thanks for any clarification. >> >> The MUA must actively reques

Re: [Dovecot] wish now I'd not upgraded...

2010-02-19 Thread Timo Sirainen
On 19.2.2010, at 17.28, Werner wrote: > Am 15.02.10 15:18, schrieb Timo Sirainen: >> On 15.2.2010, at 16.14, Stan Hoeppner wrote: >> >>> Upgraded from Debian Dovecot 1.0.15 to Debian Dovecot 1.2.10-1~bpo50+1. >>> >>> Problem: Instantly noticed in TB 3.0.1 Win32 that all emails in all folders >>

Re: [Dovecot] wish now I'd not upgraded...

2010-02-19 Thread Werner
Am 15.02.10 15:18, schrieb Timo Sirainen: > On 15.2.2010, at 16.14, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >> Upgraded from Debian Dovecot 1.0.15 to Debian Dovecot 1.2.10-1~bpo50+1. >> >> Problem: Instantly noticed in TB 3.0.1 Win32 that all emails in all folders >> were marked as unread. > > This is a Thunderb

Re: [Dovecot] Client behaviour with sieve

2010-02-19 Thread Matthijs Kooijman
Hi Koenraad, > What I don't like is that you posted my e-mail-adress in your > message. Now it will be available to harvesters, and I will get spam > via that address very soon. Please don't be offended, but remove > that from your replies. Not to a wise ass, but by posting to a list, you'll get y

Re: [Dovecot] Client behaviour with sieve

2010-02-19 Thread Koenraad Lelong
Nikita Koshikov schreef: On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:17:17 +0100 Koenraad Lelong wrote: ... Take a look http://www.mozilla.org/support/thunderbird/tips#beh_downloadstartup Hi Nikita, Thanks for the link. What I don't like is that you posted my e-mail-adress in your message. Now it will be avai

Re: [Dovecot] Client behaviour with sieve

2010-02-19 Thread Roderick A. Anderson
Steffen Kaiser wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Koenraad Lelong wrote: Is this the expected behaviour ? Yes. Thanks for any clarification. The MUA must actively request the status of the mailfolders. The INBOX and the currently selected folder ar

Re: [Dovecot] quota plugin + setting in "protocol" or "lda"

2010-02-19 Thread Timo Sirainen
imap is the only special case, because there you probably want to use imap_quota. Everything else is just happy with plain "quota". Actually you could even put the regular mail_plugins outside protocol {} and only override it for imap. On 19.2.2010, at 16.15, maximatt wrote: > hi... > > which

Re: [Dovecot] Client behaviour with sieve

2010-02-19 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Koenraad Lelong wrote: Is this the expected behaviour ? Yes. Thanks for any clarification. The MUA must actively request the status of the mailfolders. The INBOX and the currently selected folder are automatically monitor

Re: [Dovecot] Client behaviour with sieve

2010-02-19 Thread Nikita Koshikov
On Fri, 19 Feb 2010 15:17:17 +0100 Koenraad Lelong wrote: > Hi, > > I have a working dovecot imap-server, with sieve. > I find it odd that my mail-clients (Thunderbird 2 and 3) don't report > anything that's new in the folders. > What I mean is this : > Postfix get's a mail and hands it over to

[Dovecot] Dovecot blog

2010-02-19 Thread Timo Sirainen
http://blog.dovecot.org/ I was thinking that I could blog about: - ideas for new Dovecot feature designs - when I actually manage to implement some new great feature - maybe some stuff about IMAP/email in general - and maybe whenever I happen to be moving to a different country I wasn't real

[Dovecot] Client behaviour with sieve

2010-02-19 Thread Koenraad Lelong
Hi, I have a working dovecot imap-server, with sieve. I find it odd that my mail-clients (Thunderbird 2 and 3) don't report anything that's new in the folders. What I mean is this : Postfix get's a mail and hands it over to dovecot's LDA and sieve moves it to a folder. When I log in with Thund

[Dovecot] quota plugin + setting in "protocol" or "lda"

2010-02-19 Thread maximatt
hi... which are the diference to configure quota plugin when LDA is dovecot: these setting: protocol imap { : mail_plugins = quota imap_quota : } protocol pop3 { : mail_plugins = quota : } .vs. thes

Re: [Dovecot] quota problem

2010-02-19 Thread Andre Hübner
Hello, Call deliver with -d $USER parameter. puhh, thanks, i got it now. lda works + all procmail rules. one thing is left, but i think this is not possible. our users have full access to procmailparts. if they use procmailrules to attach mails on folders it its possible to bypass the quoata

Re: [Dovecot] Poll: Quota near full behavior? [Was: Feature request? Make deliver quota inclusive!]

2010-02-19 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Feb 2010, Charles Marcus wrote: Ahh... so, this would only be a [potential] problem in the case of [a] user[s] that didn't login for a long time... and I guess you could even deal with that by some kind of nightly cron job... A cron job

Re: [Dovecot] Poll: Quota near full behavior? [Was: Feature request? Make deliver quota inclusive!]

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-02-19 3:16 AM, Steffen Kaiser wrote: > On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Charles Marcus wrote: >> On 2010-02-18 11:09 AM, Steffen Kaiser wrote: >>> Actually, I once had a system where the request was "we do not >>> send over quota notices, all mails have to arrive". Hence, >>> deliver should have no quo

Re: [Dovecot] Poll: Quota near full behavior? [Was: Feature request? Make deliver quota inclusive!]

2010-02-19 Thread Charles Marcus
On 2010-02-18 4:53 PM, Noel Butler wrote: >>> Personally I think the best way would be, if the user isn't over >>> quota at the time of a message delivery, deliver that message, >>> *regardless* of whether or not it puts the user over quota. >> Wonder if there's anyone who wouldn't want this behav

Re: [Dovecot] quota problem

2010-02-19 Thread Timo Sirainen
On Fri, 2010-02-19 at 11:32 +0100, Andre Hübner wrote: > best way would be if we could pipe mails from procmail to deliver like > described here: > http://wiki.dovecot.org/procmail > > but in this case lda ignores my quota and is putting mails in inbox which is > actual over quota. > is there a

Re: [Dovecot] quota problem

2010-02-19 Thread Andre Hübner
Hello, thanks for help. On Wed, 2010-02-17 at 15:26 +0100, Andre Hübner wrote: my user_query: user_query = SELECT home, uid, gid, concat('*:storage=', quota_bytes,'M') AS quota_rule FROM mail_users WHERE login = '%u' Do you really want quota_bytes number of megabytes? If not, change the

Re: [Dovecot] GlusterFs - Any new progress reports?

2010-02-19 Thread John Lyons
> > Sure .. but you can break the index files in exactly the same way as > > with NFS. :) > > > That is right :) For us, all the front end exim servers pass their mail to a single final delivery server. It was done so that we didn't have all the front end servers needing to mount the storage. It

Re: [Dovecot] Poll: Quota near full behavior? [Was: Feature request? Make deliver quota inclusive!]

2010-02-19 Thread Steffen Kaiser
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 18 Feb 2010, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-02-18 11:09 AM, Steffen Kaiser wrote: Actually, I once had a system where the request was "we do not send over quota notices, all mails have to arrive". Hence, deliver should have no quota - well,