[Dovecot] case (non-)sensitivity for folder names

2011-01-05 Thread Phil Howard
Is IMAP supposed to be case sensitive or case in-sensitive? It seemed it would be case sensitive because I've had different cases of folders. But today I found I had two folders Spam and spam, with directories .INBOX.Spam and .INBOX.spam on the server. Messages existed in each directory on the

Re: [Dovecot] case (non-)sensitivity for folder names

2011-01-05 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:05, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 10:09 -0500, Phil Howard wrote: Is IMAP supposed to be case sensitive or case in-sensitive? Case sensitive, except for INBOX. (Or if the server is using case-insensitive filesystem then they're case

Re: [Dovecot] case (non-)sensitivity for folder names

2011-01-05 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 13:20, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On 5.1.2011, at 19.33, Phil Howard wrote: On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:05, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On Wed, 2011-01-05 at 10:09 -0500, Phil Howard wrote: Is IMAP supposed to be case sensitive or case in-sensitive? Case

Re: [Dovecot] case (non-)sensitivity for folder names

2011-01-05 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 16:10, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On 5.1.2011, at 23.04, Phil Howard wrote: But if for INBOX names are case IN-sensitive, then there will be confusion because anything obeying that concept would see Inbox spam and Inbox Spam as being the same box. It's case

[Dovecot] re-indexing moved mail

2011-01-04 Thread Phil Howard
I have a huge block of email that was misdelivered into the wrong folder. Moving it where it should be is not just all from one folder to being all of another folder. Basically, the index files need to be rebuilt. Looking in the wiki I cannot find how to do this. It all seems to be about

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 17:08, Willie Gillespie wgillespie+dove...@es2eng.com wrote: Phil Howard wrote: I think this issue has been entirely misunderstood.  Have I explained it wrong? I think there's been a bit of confusion here.  Everyone is saying similar things in slightly different ways

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread Phil Howard
I think this issue has been entirely misunderstood. Have I explained it wrong? 2010/12/22 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de: On Wed, 2010-12-22 at 09:34 -0500, Phil Howard wrote: 2010/12/21 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de: Creating the new mail folder is entirely

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 10:27, David Warden war...@geneseo.edu wrote: Out of curiosity, are you using the autosubscribe feature of Dovecot LDA to automatically subscribe people who whatever new folder the Dovecot LDA automatically creates? It looks like this is the -s flag to LDA binary in

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-23 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at 12:28, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-12-23 10:27 AM, David Warden wrote: I know Thunderbird can be difficult when it comes to new folders showing up on the server that it didn't create. Main reason I always uncheck the 'show only subscribed

Re: [Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-22 Thread Phil Howard
2010/12/21 Karsten Bräckelmann guent...@rudersport.de: Creating the new mail folder is entirely on the IMAP server side. The MUA (Evolution in your stated case) is irrelevant. If the creation of the new folder fails, it is a server side problem. However, once a new folder has been created

[Dovecot] trying to make cmusieve happen globally

2010-12-22 Thread Phil Howard
In Dovecot 1.1.11 cmusieve is apparently integrated in the Ubuntu 9.10 package dovecot-common since the files are there. I am wanting to right now just do a very basic test of the setup to see how it runs before doing more sophisticated steps that could obscure any errors or bugs (e.g. unit

Re: [Dovecot] trying to make cmusieve happen globally

2010-12-22 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:46, Anton Dollmaier antondollma...@aditsystems.de wrote: plugin {         sieve_global_path = /etc/dovecot/sieve-global.d/spam.sieve Use sieve_before, which is not documented in the wiki. Changed. Only this way the sievescript really gets executed. The

Re: [Dovecot] trying to make cmusieve happen globally

2010-12-22 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 13:27, Thomas Leuxner t...@leuxner.net wrote: May be a good idea to post some snippets of the actual Postfix delivery attempts just to make sure it really uses the external LDA. You can also crank up 'mail_debug = yes' to log more verbosely. IIRC it should show CMU

Re: [Dovecot] trying to make cmusieve happen globally

2010-12-22 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 13:28, Stephan Bosch step...@rename-it.nl wrote: Op 22-12-2010 19:12, Phil Howard schreef: On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 11:46, Anton Dollmaier antondollma...@aditsystems.de  wrote: plugin {         sieve_global_path = /etc/dovecot/sieve-global.d/spam.sieve Use

Re: [Dovecot] trying to make cmusieve happen globally

2010-12-22 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Dec 22, 2010 at 13:28, Stephan Bosch step...@rename-it.nl wrote: Op 22-12-2010 19:12, Phil Howard schreef: Do I need to have per-user sieves set up, too, just to get it to work? No. I did some debugging. It looks like I do need to have that set up

[Dovecot] Is this really a user agent issue?

2010-12-21 Thread Phil Howard
I suspect this is a user agent issue, given that Evolution is flaky in so many areas. When I deliver mail to a subfolder/subbox (e.g. the -m option in the deliver command), and Evolution doesn't know of it, yet, creating it fails, and Evolution still can't get to it. Doing things the other way

[Dovecot] Moving email between folders outside of IMAP context

2010-12-21 Thread Phil Howard
I'd like to run a script from cron that will scan certain mailboxes and move selected mail from one folder (usually INBOX) to another folder. The basic idea is to move previously detected spam based on headers prepended to the mail. Since I am not able to figure out how to get Postfix to invoke

Re: [Dovecot] Moving email between folders outside of IMAP context

2010-12-21 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 16:41, Tom Hendrikx t...@whyscream.net wrote: Do not use an external script, but add a global sieve script that sorts messages into some directory, based on your preferred header. How does that get executed. I take it I can't do it via cron. Does it run at deliver

Re: [Dovecot] Moving email between folders outside of IMAP context

2010-12-21 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 17:09, Tom Hendrikx t...@whyscream.net wrote: I am not familiar with Ubuntu specifics, but iirc Stephan Bosch (creator of sieve plugin) has a repo with debian builds of dovecot+sieve. I would need something that is sieve only, as Dovecot is already installed,

Re: [Dovecot] Moving email between folders outside of IMAP context

2010-12-21 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 17:41, Tom Hendrikx t...@whyscream.net wrote: That software is already written and tested, it is the sieve plugin. If you're willing to write, test and run a complete new piece of software, you might as well replace dovecot with a sieve enabled version of the same

[Dovecot] restricting access by reverse domain name

2010-08-09 Thread Phil Howard
Is there a feature or plugin to restrict access to IMAP/POP service by the domain name in reverse lookup? It would be even better if this restriction can exclude certain users (e.g. some users can access IMAP from certain networks but other users cannot). -- sHiFt HaPpEnS!

Re: [Dovecot] restricting access by reverse domain name

2010-08-09 Thread Phil Howard
On Mon, Aug 9, 2010 at 11:18, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On Mon, 2010-08-09 at 10:55 -0400, Phil Howard wrote: Is there a feature or plugin to restrict access to IMAP/POP service by the domain name in reverse lookup? With v2.0 you could use tcp-wrappers. It would be even better

Re: [Dovecot] listen=*, :: broken?

2010-08-05 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 10:47, Peer Heinlein p.heinlein+dove...@heinlein-support.de wrote: the default: listen = *, :: should work and should open port 143 on IPv4 and IPv6. On Linux, listening to :: in IPv6 has the effect of listening also on 0.0.0.0 in IPv4, even though only a single

Re: [Dovecot] listen=*, :: broken?

2010-08-05 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 09:56, Tom Hendrikx t...@whyscream.net wrote: This is not true for my linux distro at least, which does not listen on ipv4 interface when setting listen = [::] (in dovecot 1.2.13). I need listen = *, [::] to enable support for both ipv4 and ipv6. This sounds like some

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-07-15 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 17:49, Steinar Bang s...@dod.no wrote: Phil Howard ttip...@gmail.com: I abandoned sendmail many years ago and haven't looked back.  I tried qmail and postfix, and was a lot happier with postfix.  I overlooked exim at the time, but from what little I've seen and heard

Re: [Dovecot] expire

2010-07-06 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 11:35, Papp Tamás tom...@martos.bme.hu wrote: /usr/lib/dovecot/expire-tool.sh Is it a script? I'm on Ubuntu 9.10 with Dovecot 1.1.11 and there is no /usr/lib/dovecot/expire-tool.sh though there is a /usr/lib/dovecot/expire-tool file which is an executable binary.

Re: [Dovecot] OT: Sieve + Forward as Attachment

2010-07-06 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 13:11, Jerry dovecot.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:55:04 -0400 Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com articulated: Maybe, but that's not how I read it... only the OP can clarify... I thought it was clear; however, I guess not. Now, I all ready

Re: [Dovecot] expire

2010-07-06 Thread Phil Howard
Looks like a newer version that I can't help on. Should be plenty others around at some point. -- sHiFt HaPpEnS!

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-07-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 02:28, Frank Cusack fr...@cusack.net wrote: On 6/30/10 6:11 PM -0400 Charles Marcus wrote: That's just plain silly. Virtual users are extremely simple to setup, no need for MySQL unless you have a bunch. I agree. I am always in favor of virtual users, it just gives you

[Dovecot] address extension going into folder

2010-07-01 Thread Phil Howard
Is it possible with a simple config change to make address extensions, e.g. alice+sa...@example.com, go into a folder, e.g. .INBOX.sales, and do so ONLY if that folder already exists (and just go into INBOX if it does not exist)?

Re: [Dovecot] address extension going into folder

2010-07-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 08:47, Edgar Fuß e...@math.uni-bonn.de wrote: With Postfix, I use mailbox_command = DOVECOT_LDA -n -e -m ${EXTENSION} where DOVECOT_LDA is the path do dovecot's deliver. The -n switch prevents creation of the IMAP folder. See http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA But it (-n)

Re: [Dovecot] address extension going into folder

2010-07-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Jul 1, 2010 at 10:56, Edgar Fuß e...@math.uni-bonn.de wrote: But it (-n) will deliver (rather than reject) into the regular INBOX if the folder for the extension does not exist? Yes, but isn't that what you were asking for? Yes, but your statement was about what you did, and I wasn't

Re: [Dovecot] system v. virtual mailboxes, was Re: Thunderbird problem

2010-06-29 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 16:16, /dev/rob0 r...@gmx.co.uk wrote: On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 07:28:52AM -0400, Charles Marcus wrote: On 2010-06-28 9:05 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: I guess this is different with virtual users than with system users?  Are you using virtual or system users Charles?

Re: [Dovecot] %d/%n doesn't work... why?

2010-06-21 Thread Phil Howard
On Mon, Jun 21, 2010 at 10:32, William Ottley williamott...@gmail.com wrote: I have attempted to force dovecot to put into a sub directly, without using the %d, but that doesn't work either: #mail_location = mbox:/var/vmail/%d/%n mail_location = mbox:/var/vmail/pplsnet.com/%n I wonder if you

Re: [Dovecot] Ok, I've given up

2010-06-17 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 04:46, Chuck McManis chuck.mcma...@gmail.com wrote: So SMTP hasn't changed much in 30 years ;-) I'd be interested in what you consider a 'modern' MTA. I've looked pretty thoroughly at sendmail, postfix, and qmail and of the three qmail is fairly reliable. Not sure what

Re: [Dovecot] Logout after SSL/TLS negociation

2010-06-16 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 05:22, bmfr bastien.murz...@palomanetworks.com wrote: I've set up Dovecot to use my signed SSL certificate and IMAP client is using STARTTLS on port 143 without secure authentication. The TLS negociation process seems to go through ok but once the negociation is

Re: [Dovecot] Logout after SSL/TLS negociation

2010-06-16 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:42, bmfr bastien.murz...@palomanetworks.com wrote: Hi Phil, Thanks for your reply, I'm using a thrid party IMAP client (can not disclose its name) and testing with other IMAP clients work. I'm wondering if you had an idea of what could trigger this LOGOUT msg from

[Dovecot] passwd-file management utility

2010-06-15 Thread Phil Howard
I'm now putting together tools/documentation to manage/administer the mail server, including, of course, managing users. Round one will be command line tools. In order to avoid re-invention, I was looking around for existing tools. I really cannot find any. So it seems I will be developing

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-15 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 11:30, Eric Rostetter rostet...@mail.utexas.edu wrote: Quoting Veiko Kukk veiko.k...@ekp.ee: I prefer don't fix if it isn't broken philosophy. Reasonable, as long as the version you are running is still supported... And if it isn't, you should upgrade. But when?

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot 1.1.x and 1.2.x differencies

2010-06-14 Thread Phil Howard
On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 07:43, Veiko Kukk veiko.k...@ekp.ee wrote: Hello, I have been using successfully Dovecot 1.1.x for about a year now. It has been very stable. Now I'm uprading that same system to newer and more powerful hardware and I was wondering whether it is good idea or not to

Re: [Dovecot] failed to store into mailbox 'INBOX': Not enough disk space. with large mail

2010-06-11 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 23:06, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Charles Marcus put forth on 6/10/2010 10:19 AM: On 2010-06-10 3:31 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: BTW, anyone who has a 44MB INBOX should be slapped repeatedly about the cranium and then educated about POP and IMAP, and how

Re: [Dovecot] failed to store into mailbox 'INBOX': Not enough disk space. with large mail

2010-06-10 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:54, Jakob Curdes j...@info-systems.de wrote: Am 10.06.2010 17:19, schrieb Charles Marcus: On 2010-06-10 3:31 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: BTW, anyone who has a 44MB INBOX should be slapped repeatedly about the cranium and then educated about POP and IMAP, and how

[Dovecot] Evolution and Thunderbird do different things?

2010-06-09 Thread Phil Howard
I'm trying both Evolution and Thunderbird on my IMAP server, and find that there are differences in how some things are done, between clients. Shouldn't there have been a standard way to do these things in the IMAP protocol? The first thing I noticed is that when deleting email from one client,

Re: [Dovecot] Evolution and Thunderbird do different things?

2010-06-09 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 12:07, Tom Hendrikx t...@whyscream.net wrote: The IMAP protocol does not define folder names and such. Servers and clients only know how to create/remove/rename/relocate folders and files, and some other basics. The names that are used by default, is a choice of the

Re: [Dovecot] Evolution and Thunderbird do different things?

2010-06-09 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 14:02, Tom Hendrikx t...@whyscream.net wrote: Flags was actually the wrong phrase, the correct term is IMAP keywords. The way that Dovecot handles this internally, is described in http://wiki.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat/Maildir . But it has no use to investigate the

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-02 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 02:39, Rainer Frey rainer.f...@inxmail.de wrote: On Tuesday 01 June 2010 17:01:16 Phil Howard wrote: I cannot determine how deliver with an empty string give to -m would behave. This is just what I mean: the behavior of deliver -m has absolutely nothing to do

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-02 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, Jun 2, 2010 at 10:20, Tom Hendrikx t...@whyscream.net wrote: Did you even try to set this up in your test environment (you have one, don't you?) to explore your own capabilities in finding out the behaviour of this edge case? It sounds trivial to do, but you cannot expect other list

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 17:30, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-05-28 5:01 PM, Phil Howard wrote: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 16:53, Charles Marcus wrote: The whole purpose of the -n output is to provide clean, easy to read *settings* as seen by postfix (as opposed

Re: [Dovecot] purge maildir folder after sa-learn

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:03, Eric Shubert e...@shubes.net wrote: That's what I do. I move them either to a (shared) ham or spam folder, and run the script posted earlier, which processes and deletes them. Thanks. I just wanted to be sure such a move would not effect (corrupt) what Dovecot

[Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot features can be used in the fight against spam. One hit came up in a search, and it was about how to fight spam in the MoinMoin Wiki itself (e.g. TextCHAs and such). I already asked in another thread about removing message files at

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:54, Frank Elsner fr...@moltke28.b.shuttle.de wrote: On Tue, 1 Jun 2010 09:42:18 -0400 Phil Howard wrote: I see no documents in the Dovecot documents wiki on how Dovecot features can be used in the fight against spam.  One hit came up in a search, and it was about how

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 09:56, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-06-01 8:39 AM, Phil Howard wrote: On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 17:30, Charles Marcus wrote: Of course it is meant for people, but it is meant to show only the bare minimum of what postfix sees as the settings

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:04, Jerry dovecot.u...@seibercom.net wrote: The fight against SPAM is NOT Dovecots responsibility. Whose responsibility is it to get detected spam delivered into the correct folder? Dovecot deliver is typically used to deliver into the Inbox(es). It would be

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:21, Frank Elsner fr...@moltke28.b.shuttle.de wrote: Ok, you obviously have a different environment and requirements. - I do the delivery into special folder by the MTA (exim) and the LDA is  not used at all. - detection training is not done. Sorry, my world may

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:45, Rainer Frey rainer.f...@inxmail.de wrote: I guess you'll have the mental transfer of fight spam into cause dovecot to perform this and that action yourself. The possible actions are, in general, documented. I cannot determine how deliver with an empty string give

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 11:01, William Blunn bill+dove...@blunn.org wrote: Get your anti-spam software to add header records to the messages, then use Dovecot LDA Sieve to filter based on those header records. So I can run Sieve as part of the deliver? Or does it run soon after that?

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:17, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Phil Howard put forth on 6/1/2010 9:15 AM: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 10:04, Jerry dovecot.u...@seibercom.net wrote: The fight against SPAM is NOT Dovecots responsibility. Whose responsibility is it to get detected spam

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:55, William Blunn bill+dove...@blunn.org wrote: The Dovecot Sieve plugin provides mail filtering facilities at time of final message delivery using the Sieve (RFC 5228 http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc5228.txt) language. Sieve is implemented as a plugin to deliver

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:41, Stan Hoeppner s...@hardwarefreak.com wrote: Law firm or heavily FED GOV regulated industry?  Or just HUA (head up ass) management with zero understanding of email and spam? People dealing with a large variety of outside clients and potential clients where bouncing

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:07, Gerhard Waldemair gerh...@waldemair.com wrote: Is there à GUI for sieve. I don't have installed Squrielmail, but won't like to manage the Rules per ssh I would hope there would be a way to put Sieve scripts in place via IMAP itself. Otherwise I won't be able to

Re: [Dovecot] Intermittent timeout issues

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 12:58, Del Stoliker dstoli...@alphagraphics.com wrote: It almost sounds like the firewall is blocking external access except that: * The version of dovecot was the thing that changed * Everything starts working again after a dovecot restart It sounds like the firewall

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:42, e-frog e-f...@gmx.de wrote: This might be helpful:  http://wiki.dovecot.org/ManageSieve/ Right now only time for a quick look. Looks like yet another server with yet another protocol (via port 4190), rather than integrated into IMAP as an extension. I'm

Re: [Dovecot] Sieve GUI

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 14:45, Frank Cusack frank+lists/dove...@linetwo.net wrote: On 6/1/10 2:10 PM -0400 Phil Howard wrote: On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 13:42, e-frog e-f...@gmx.de wrote: This might be helpful:  http://wiki.dovecot.org/ManageSieve/ Right now only time for a quick look.  Looks

Re: [Dovecot] Dovecot aspects of fighting spam

2010-06-01 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, Jun 1, 2010 at 14:56, Frank Cusack frank+lists/dove...@linetwo.net wrote: Man oh man.  You don't have much experience with mail and it sounds like you are starting from scratch.  You have your work cut out for you. :) Well, actually I do. A lot of it is way way back there with

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-28 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 09:55, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-05-27 1:42 PM, Phil Howard wrote: Yup, there was a 2nd setting nearly at the bottom of the file, and it was different. Thanks for catching that. This is why you *always* go by what output pof postconf -n

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-28 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 12:11, Jerry dovecot.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On Fri, 28 May 2010 11:25:17 -0400 Phil Howard ttip...@gmail.com articulated: My main.cf file has the comments (my own that explains why settings are there, not the default comments).  It is the easier to read file. Even

Re: [Dovecot] purge maildir folder after sa-learn

2010-05-28 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 06:13, Timo Sirainen t...@iki.fi wrote: On Wed, 2010-05-26 at 09:56 +0200, Florian Effenberger wrote: rm -f /path/to/Maildir/.spam-learn/* Oh, I really ment .spam-learn/cur/* (and maybe .spam-learn/new/* if you make it learn from both and it doesn't move mails to

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-28 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 14:06, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-05-28 1:00 PM, Phil Howard wrote: If the problem is protocol related (connections time out, or an SMTP server complains about syntax errors etc.) consider recording a session with tcpdump, as described

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-28 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 15:28, Jerry dovecot.u...@seibercom.net wrote: Exactly what type of system are you trying to support? I fail to understand why you are constantly changing the base Postfix configuration. I add/delete users on a virtually daily basis, however, once my basic Postifx

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-28 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 16:53, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-05-28 4:49 PM, Phil Howard wrote: If postconf -n carried comments along, then it could be used as a config linter ... let it's output replace the original and that will be the one to edit for the next change

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 16:59, Jerry dovecot.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On or about line 821 in the Dovecot.conf file: #auth_username_chars = abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ01234567890.-_@ If you have not all ready done so, add the + to the end of the list and

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:50, Gregory Finch gfi...@ldmltd.ca wrote: I've never had to touch auth_username_chars to get this to work. In main.cf, I've set: mailbox_transport = dovecot I have virtual_transport = dovecot recipient_delimiter = + I have that now (didn't when I initially set

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 16:59, Jerry dovecot.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On or about line 821 in the Dovecot.conf file: Actually, a lot earlier in my trimmed down version :-) #auth_username_chars = abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyzABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ01234567890.-_@ If you have not all

Re: [Dovecot] symlinking maildirs

2010-05-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 01:52, Pascal Volk user+dove...@localhost.localdomain.org wrote: On 05/26/2010 10:27 PM Phil Howard wrote: [snipped X-posting] See this Thread: http://marc.info/?l=postfix-usersm=127490477231031w=2 The symlinking did work, though. That was with userids added to auth

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 11:34, Phil Howard ttip...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 16:59, Jerry dovecot.u...@seibercom.net wrote: On or about line 821 in the Dovecot.conf file: Actually, a lot earlier in my trimmed down version :-) #auth_username_chars

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 16:59, Jerry dovecot.u...@seibercom.net wrote: By the way, Postfix must be properly configured to pass the email address to dovecot. I leave that as an exercise to the user. You might want to start here thought:        http://wiki.dovecot.org/LDA/Postfix I already

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:52, Gregory Finch gfi...@ldmltd.ca wrote: On 2010-05-27 8:27 AM, Phil Howard wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:50, Gregory Finch gfi...@ldmltd.ca wrote: I've never had to touch auth_username_chars to get this to work. In main.cf, I've set: mailbox_transport

Re: [Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-27 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 12:52, Gregory Finch gfi...@ldmltd.ca wrote: recipient_delimiter = -                        ^^ do you mean to have a + here instead? Yup, there was a 2nd setting nearly at the bottom of the file, and it was different. Thanks for catching that.

Re: [Dovecot] STARTTLS does not seem to work

2010-05-26 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, May 25, 2010 at 16:31, Jerrale Gayle jerralega...@sheltoncomputers.com wrote: The openssl client will connect you in plain text to your imap server where you can manually do login (AUTH LOGIN) and browse through your imap folders just like you use your SSH shell. This is a sufficient

[Dovecot] warning: pipe flag `D' requires dovecot_destination_recipient_limit = 1

2010-05-26 Thread Phil Howard
I'm getting this message, which looks like Postfix is the one logging it, but I don't know where it comes from or which configuration it needs to be placed in. Anyone know what this means? May 26 13:13:28 eth0 postfix/pipe[13821]: warning: pipe flag `D' requires

Re: [Dovecot] warning: pipe flag `D' requires dovecot_destination_recipient_limit = 1

2010-05-26 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 13:35, Pascal Volk user+dove...@localhost.localdomain.org wrote: On 05/26/2010 07:19 PM Phil Howard wrote: I'm getting this message, which looks like Postfix is the one logging it, but I don't know where it comes from or which configuration it needs to be placed

[Dovecot] recipient_delimiter

2010-05-26 Thread Phil Howard
I have recipient_delimiter = + in main.cf (Postfix). But deliveries to dovecot/deliver are still being rejected. It appears that the full email is still in the envelope (e.g. phil+how...@example.com which I want to be delivered to p...@example.com). Is that how it's supposed to work and Dovecot

[Dovecot] symlinking maildirs

2010-05-26 Thread Phil Howard
I have some emails that I think are in the Postfix delivery queue going to Dovecot, but didn't get mapped to their alias (because I didn't have all the alias entries in when they were queued). I'm wondering if this trick would work. I have the mail being delivered to /home/mail/%Ld/%Ln/mail and

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-24 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 11:17, Charles Marcus cmar...@media-brokers.com wrote: On 2010-05-21 9:04 AM, Phil Howard wrote: Where is the reply to list button on Evolution?  I don't see one there, either.  All it has are reply and reply to all.  The reply sends to the sender alone if it's a case

[Dovecot] STARTTLS does not seem to work

2010-05-24 Thread Phil Howard
I believe I have the configuration set to use START TLS on IMAP4 (143) and POP3 (110) ports.  However, it does not seem to be working.  Yet STARTTLS is listed as a capability (which tells me I probably do have it configured right). In the session below, 172.30.0.24 is the mail server I'm putting

Re: [Dovecot] STARTTLS does not seem to work

2010-05-24 Thread Phil Howard
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:31, Mike Abbott michael.abb...@apple.com wrote: altair/phil /home/phil 162 telnet 172.30.0.24 143 Trying 172.30.0.24... Connected to 172.30.0.24. Escape character is '^]'. * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4rev1 SASL-IR SORT THREAD=REFERENCES MULTIAPPEND UNSELECT LITERAL+ IDLE

Re: [Dovecot] STARTTLS does not seem to work

2010-05-24 Thread Phil Howard
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 11:49, Mike Abbott michael.abb...@apple.com wrote: Anyway, with the tag it does work on IMAP.  But it still fails on POP For POP3 the command is STLS. Well, that kinda complicates a STARTTLS tunnel :-) ... I was thinking of trying to do that to address some issues.

Re: [Dovecot] STARTTLS does not seem to work

2010-05-24 Thread Phil Howard
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 17:31, Mike Abbott michael.abb...@apple.com wrote: Well, that kinda complicates a STARTTLS tunnel Perhaps you might be interested in these commands.  I'm not sure about their portability but they work tolerably well in scripts on Mac OS X 10.6. $ openssl s_client

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-21 Thread Phil Howard
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 18:45, Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: like you said, you dont really do mail servers Id LOVE to see you try even 100K users in mail server situation that is ever changing, you'd soon open your eyes up. I know it would mean more hits to the DB. The

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-20 Thread Phil Howard
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 17:14, Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: I guess you've never used it with tens and tens of thousands of users, let alone user numbers well into 6 figures and why on gods (or any) earth would I use that load of crap being backed up by another form? that

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-20 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 01:46, Eray Aslan eray.as...@caf.com.tr wrote: We use Michael Tokarev's tinycdb: * stable on disk format * has atomic updates * has a tiny library in case you want to link it statically * uses a lot less memory when the process count is large, i.e. scales well *

Re: [Dovecot] looking for IMAP testing tool

2010-05-19 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 05:24, Brian Candler b.cand...@pobox.com wrote: Then you're testing the whole environment: you'll need to deliver mail either by making SMTP connections or by invoking your LDA (e.g. sendmail) and piping the mail in - with some way of forcing it to look spammy or not

Re: [Dovecot] looking for IMAP testing tool

2010-05-19 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 07:52, William Blunn b...@blunn.org wrote: It sounds like you want a sort of toolbox of ready-made and tested components, such as an IMAP client, but with rich programmatic interfaces so that you only need to write a little bit of glue code to make it do exactly what

Re: [Dovecot] looking for IMAP testing tool

2010-05-19 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 10:04, Brian Candler b.cand...@pobox.com wrote: If you can do SMTP, you can do IMAP. This should get you started: a login f...@bar.com xyzzy a select inbox -- or a examine inbox for read-only a fetch 1:15 (rfc822) a store 1:15 +flags (\Deleted) a

Re: [Dovecot] looking for IMAP testing tool

2010-05-19 Thread Phil Howard
On Wed, May 19, 2010 at 12:49, Mailing List anonm...@dovecot.org wrote: Hi Phil, I've got an hack piece of regression perl code that we might be a good starting point. I'd love to turn it into a better piece of hack code that we could offer up. It does SSL/TLS. Right now it is pretty basic

[Dovecot] looking for IMAP testing tool

2010-05-18 Thread Phil Howard
I'm looking for an IMAP testing tool, suitable to use with Dovecot IMAP. It needs to support TLS, STARTTLS, and login/authentication. It needs to be able run from command line, shell scripts, and even do so under cron jobs (e.g. a way to supply the password to use w/o a terminal prompt).

Re: [Dovecot] looking for IMAP testing tool

2010-05-18 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:17, Steffen Kaiser skdove...@smail.inf.fh-brs.de wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 18 May 2010, Phil Howard wrote: Anyone ever heard of such a tool? Open source would be preferred (better http://search.cpan.org/search?mode

Re: [Dovecot] looking for IMAP testing tool

2010-05-18 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 11:42, Hugo Monteiro hugo.monte...@fct.unl.ptwrote: Replying myself in this one. Should have looked a bit further into it. http://imapwiki.org/ImapTest What I'm looking for is not something that just tries commands. What I want to do is actually try to pick up mail

Re: [Dovecot] looking for IMAP testing tool

2010-05-18 Thread Phil Howard
On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 13:17, Mark Moseley moseleym...@gmail.com wrote: I haven't used it much but it looked useful: http://bc-bd.org/blog/imapfoo/ Hmmm. That (inserting mail into folders) can have it uses. But I'm really looking for something to do, in a very basic way, what is expected

Re: [Dovecot] dovecot/deliver ... Can't open log file /var/log/dovecot/error.log: Permission denied

2010-05-17 Thread Phil Howard
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 17:48, Noel Butler noel.but...@ausics.net wrote: CDB, oh dear god, you want to go back in time? CDB is no better than any other flatfile based system, it was horrible with qmail and it'll be horrible with anything else above a couple thousand users, you clearly dont

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