Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-19 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot 

> On 19/04/2023 11:14 EEST Odhiambo Washington  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 4:01 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot  
> wrote:
> > 
> >  > On 17/04/2023 17:44 EEST Peter Wienemann  
> > wrote:
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > Dear Aki,
> >  > 
> >  > On 12.04.23 13:31, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
> >  > > We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail 
> > archives are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they can be 
> > now searched, too.
> >  > 
> >  > thanks for this.
> >  > 
> >  > > Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing list 
> > and we'll look into it.
> >  > Is there a way to keep old links to archived messages (such as 
> >  > https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/-/.html) 
> >  > intact?
> >  > 
> >  > Best regards,
> >  > 
> >  > Peter
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> >  I restored the old archives.
> 
> You mean you imported the old archives into Mailman3??
> 
> --

No, I made the old links work again. The old archives are already imported into 
mailman3.

Aki
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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-19 Thread Odhiambo Washington 
On Tue, Apr 18, 2023 at 4:01 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot 
wrote:

>
> > On 17/04/2023 17:44 EEST Peter Wienemann 
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Aki,
> >
> > On 12.04.23 13:31, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
> > > We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail
> archives are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they can be
> now searched, too.
> >
> > thanks for this.
> >
> > > Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing list
> and we'll look into it.
> > Is there a way to keep old links to archived messages (such as
> > https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/-/.html)
> > intact?
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Peter
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> I restored the old archives.
>

You mean you imported the old archives into Mailman3??



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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-18 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot 


> On 17/04/2023 17:44 EEST Peter Wienemann  wrote:
> 
>  
> Dear Aki,
> 
> On 12.04.23 13:31, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
> > We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail archives are 
> > now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they can be now searched, 
> > too.
> 
> thanks for this.
> 
> > Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing list and 
> > we'll look into it.
> Is there a way to keep old links to archived messages (such as 
> https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/-/.html) 
> intact?
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Peter
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I restored the old archives.

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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-17 Thread Peter Wienemann 

Dear Aki,

On 12.04.23 13:31, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:

We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail archives are now 
at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they can be now searched, too.


thanks for this.


Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing list and we'll 
look into it.
Is there a way to keep old links to archived messages (such as 
https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/-/.html) 
intact?


Best regards,

Peter
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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-13 Thread Narcis Garcia 

El 13/4/23 a les 14:14, Aki Tuomi via dovecot ha escrit:



On 13/04/2023 15:02 EEST Odhiambo Washington  wrote:






On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 4:11 PM Aki Tuomi  wrote:


  > On 12/04/2023 15:47 EEST Odhiambo Washington  wrote:
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:24 PM Johannes Rohr  wrote:
  > >
  > >
  > > Am 12.04.23 um 14:14 schrieb Johannes Rohr:
  > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Am 12.04.23 um 13:58 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
  > > >
  > > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot 
 wrote:
  > > > >
  > > > > >
  > > > > > We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail 
archives are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they can be now searched, too.
  > > > > >
  > > > > > Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing 
list and we'll look into it.
  > > > > >
  > > > [...]
  > > >
  > > > >
  > > > >
  > > > > What is the new signup method, given that signup is closed on this 
new MM3 instance?
  > > > >
  > > > I guess you can still subscribe via email. But why is account 
registration closed? I too manage a mailman3 instance. I cannot see any reason why you 
would want to disable account registration. A newly registered account does not 
automatically get new privileges, so this doesn't increase security. At the same time, 
it strips the user of the possibility to manage their account.
  > > BTW, I am under the impression that archiving isn't set up properly. The 
newest mail in the archive 
(https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives/list/dovecot@dovecot.org/) is of April 11. As 
in Mailman3, the mailing list manager (postorius) and the archiver (hyperkitty) are 
separate, it also took a bit of trial and error for me to ensure, that new mails are 
being archived. I don't remember what was the cause in my case. But I think the 
mailman-web log files revealed it to me.
  > While it's already getting OT, the archiving is done via mailman-web 
settings and cron.
  > And maybe they better opt for the much faster Xapian indexer 
(https://github.com/notanumber/xapian-haystack/tree/master).
  >
  > --
  
  We have, in fact, opted for the Xapian indexer, given that the Whoosh indexer is not usable in practice.
  
  I forgot to reopen the registration, I'll open it.
  
  Aki


Will you consider implementing social account signups?




I'll take a look at it.



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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-13 Thread Odhiambo Washington 
On Thu, Apr 13, 2023 at 3:14 PM Aki Tuomi 
wrote:

>
> > On 13/04/2023 15:02 EEST Odhiambo Washington  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 4:11 PM Aki Tuomi 
> wrote:
> > >
> > >  > On 12/04/2023 15:47 EEST Odhiambo Washington 
> wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:24 PM Johannes Rohr 
> wrote:
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > > Am 12.04.23 um 14:14 schrieb Johannes Rohr:
> > >  > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > Am 12.04.23 um 13:58 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot <
> dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and
> mail archives are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they
> can be now searched, too.
> > >  > > > > >
> > >  > > > > > Please let us know if you have face any issues with the
> mailing list and we'll look into it.
> > >  > > > > >
> > >  > > > [...]
> > >  > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > > What is the new signup method, given that signup is closed on
> this new MM3 instance?
> > >  > > > >
> > >  > > > I guess you can still subscribe via email. But why is account
> registration closed? I too manage a mailman3 instance. I cannot see any
> reason why you would want to disable account registration. A newly
> registered account does not automatically get new privileges, so this
> doesn't increase security. At the same time, it strips the user of the
> possibility to manage their account.
> > >  > > BTW, I am under the impression that archiving isn't set up
> properly. The newest mail in the archive (
> https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives/list/dovecot@dovecot.org/) is of
> April 11. As in Mailman3, the mailing list manager (postorius) and the
> archiver (hyperkitty) are separate, it also took a bit of trial and error
> for me to ensure, that new mails are being archived. I don't remember what
> was the cause in my case. But I think the mailman-web log files revealed it
> to me.
> > >  > While it's already getting OT, the archiving is done via
> mailman-web settings and cron.
> > >  > And maybe they better opt for the much faster Xapian indexer (
> https://github.com/notanumber/xapian-haystack/tree/master).
> > >  >
> > >  > --
> > >
> > >  We have, in fact, opted for the Xapian indexer, given that the Whoosh
> indexer is not usable in practice.
> > >
> > >  I forgot to reopen the registration, I'll open it.
> > >
> > >  Aki
> >
> > Will you consider implementing social account signups?
> >
> >
>
> I'll take a look at it.
>
> Aki
>

Great!

If you manage to incorporate Twitter amongst them, please consider sharing
the trick to achieving it offlist :)
I know you have the capacity. It did beat me on my lists.


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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-13 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot 

> On 13/04/2023 15:02 EEST Odhiambo Washington  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 4:11 PM Aki Tuomi  wrote:
> > 
> >  > On 12/04/2023 15:47 EEST Odhiambo Washington  wrote:
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > 
> >  > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:24 PM Johannes Rohr  wrote:
> >  > > 
> >  > > 
> >  > > Am 12.04.23 um 14:14 schrieb Johannes Rohr:
> >  > > 
> >  > > > 
> >  > > > 
> >  > > > Am 12.04.23 um 13:58 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
> >  > > > 
> >  > > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot 
> >  wrote:
> >  > > > > 
> >  > > > > > 
> >  > > > > > We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail 
> > archives are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they can be 
> > now searched, too.
> >  > > > > > 
> >  > > > > > Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing 
> > list and we'll look into it.
> >  > > > > > 
> >  > > > [...]
> >  > > > 
> >  > > > > 
> >  > > > > 
> >  > > > > What is the new signup method, given that signup is closed on this 
> > new MM3 instance? 
> >  > > > > 
> >  > > > I guess you can still subscribe via email. But why is account 
> > registration closed? I too manage a mailman3 instance. I cannot see any 
> > reason why you would want to disable account registration. A newly 
> > registered account does not automatically get new privileges, so this 
> > doesn't increase security. At the same time, it strips the user of the 
> > possibility to manage their account.
> >  > > BTW, I am under the impression that archiving isn't set up properly. 
> > The newest mail in the archive 
> > (https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives/list/dovecot@dovecot.org/) is of 
> > April 11. As in Mailman3, the mailing list manager (postorius) and the 
> > archiver (hyperkitty) are separate, it also took a bit of trial and error 
> > for me to ensure, that new mails are being archived. I don't remember what 
> > was the cause in my case. But I think the mailman-web log files revealed it 
> > to me.
> >  > While it's already getting OT, the archiving is done via mailman-web 
> > settings and cron.
> >  > And maybe they better opt for the much faster Xapian indexer 
> > (https://github.com/notanumber/xapian-haystack/tree/master).
> >  > 
> >  > --
> >  
> >  We have, in fact, opted for the Xapian indexer, given that the Whoosh 
> > indexer is not usable in practice.
> >  
> >  I forgot to reopen the registration, I'll open it. 
> >  
> >  Aki
> 
> Will you consider implementing social account signups?
> 
> 

I'll take a look at it.

Aki
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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-13 Thread Odhiambo Washington 
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 4:11 PM Aki Tuomi 
wrote:

>
> > On 12/04/2023 15:47 EEST Odhiambo Washington  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:24 PM Johannes Rohr  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 12.04.23 um 14:14 schrieb Johannes Rohr:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Am 12.04.23 um 13:58 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
> > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot <
> dovecot@dovecot.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail
> archives are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they can be
> now searched, too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing
> list and we'll look into it.
> > > > > >
> > > > [...]
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > What is the new signup method, given that signup is closed on this
> new MM3 instance?
> > > > >
> > > > I guess you can still subscribe via email. But why is account
> registration closed? I too manage a mailman3 instance. I cannot see any
> reason why you would want to disable account registration. A newly
> registered account does not automatically get new privileges, so this
> doesn't increase security. At the same time, it strips the user of the
> possibility to manage their account.
> > > BTW, I am under the impression that archiving isn't set up properly.
> The newest mail in the archive (
> https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives/list/dovecot@dovecot.org/) is of
> April 11. As in Mailman3, the mailing list manager (postorius) and the
> archiver (hyperkitty) are separate, it also took a bit of trial and error
> for me to ensure, that new mails are being archived. I don't remember what
> was the cause in my case. But I think the mailman-web log files revealed it
> to me.
> > While it's already getting OT, the archiving is done via mailman-web
> settings and cron.
> > And maybe they better opt for the much faster Xapian indexer (
> https://github.com/notanumber/xapian-haystack/tree/master).
> >
> > --
>
> We have, in fact, opted for the Xapian indexer, given that the Whoosh
> indexer is not usable in practice.
>
> I forgot to reopen the registration, I'll open it.
>
> Aki
>

Will you consider implementing social account signups?


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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-12 Thread Aki Tuomi via dovecot 

> On 12/04/2023 15:47 EEST Odhiambo Washington  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:24 PM Johannes Rohr  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Am 12.04.23 um 14:14 schrieb Johannes Rohr:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Am 12.04.23 um 13:58 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > >  We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail 
> > > > > archives are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they 
> > > > > can be now searched, too.
> > > > >  
> > > > >  Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing list 
> > > > > and we'll look into it.
> > > > > 
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > What is the new signup method, given that signup is closed on this new 
> > > > MM3 instance? 
> > > > 
> > > I guess you can still subscribe via email. But why is account 
> > > registration closed? I too manage a mailman3 instance. I cannot see any 
> > > reason why you would want to disable account registration. A newly 
> > > registered account does not automatically get new privileges, so this 
> > > doesn't increase security. At the same time, it strips the user of the 
> > > possibility to manage their account.
> > BTW, I am under the impression that archiving isn't set up properly. The 
> > newest mail in the archive 
> > (https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives/list/dovecot@dovecot.org/) is of 
> > April 11. As in Mailman3, the mailing list manager (postorius) and the 
> > archiver (hyperkitty) are separate, it also took a bit of trial and error 
> > for me to ensure, that new mails are being archived. I don't remember what 
> > was the cause in my case. But I think the mailman-web log files revealed it 
> > to me.
> While it's already getting OT, the archiving is done via mailman-web settings 
> and cron.
> And maybe they better opt for the much faster Xapian indexer 
> (https://github.com/notanumber/xapian-haystack/tree/master).
> 
> --

We have, in fact, opted for the Xapian indexer, given that the Whoosh indexer 
is not usable in practice.

I forgot to reopen the registration, I'll open it. 

Aki
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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-12 Thread Odhiambo Washington 
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 3:24 PM Johannes Rohr  wrote:

>
> Am 12.04.23 um 14:14 schrieb Johannes Rohr:
>
>
> Am 12.04.23 um 13:58 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
>
> On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot 
> wrote:
>
>>
>> We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail archives
>> are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they can be now
>> searched, too.
>>
>> Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing list and
>> we'll look into it.
>>
> [...]
>
>
> What is the new signup method, given that signup is closed on this new MM3
> instance?
>
> I guess you can still subscribe via email. But why is account registration
> closed? I too manage a mailman3 instance. I cannot see any reason why you
> would want to disable account registration. A newly registered account does
> not automatically get new privileges, so this doesn't increase security. At
> the same time, it strips the user of the possibility to manage their
> account.
>
> BTW, I am under the impression that archiving isn't set up properly. The
> newest mail in the archive
>  is of
> April 11.  As in Mailman3, the mailing list manager (postorius) and the
> archiver (hyperkitty) are separate, it also took a bit of trial and error
> for me to ensure, that new mails are being archived. I don't remember what
> was the cause in my case. But I think the mailman-web log files revealed it
> to me.
>
While it's already getting OT, the archiving is done via mailman-web
settings and cron.
And maybe they better opt for the much faster Xapian indexer
.

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Nairobi,KE
+254 7 3200 0004/+254 7 2274 3223
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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-12 Thread Johannes Rohr 


Am 12.04.23 um 14:14 schrieb Johannes Rohr:



Am 12.04.23 um 13:58 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot 
 wrote:



We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail
archives are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and
they can be now searched, too.

Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing
list and we'll look into it.


[...]


What is the new signup method, given that signup is closed on this 
new MM3 instance?


I guess you can still subscribe via email. But why is account 
registration closed? I too manage a mailman3 instance. I cannot see 
any reason why you would want to disable account registration. A newly 
registered account does not automatically get new privileges, so this 
doesn't increase security. At the same time, it strips the user of the 
possibility to manage their account.


BTW, I am under the impression that archiving isn't set up properly. The 
newest mail in the archive 
 is of  
April 11.  As in Mailman3, the mailing list manager (postorius) and the 
archiver (hyperkitty) are separate, it also took a bit of trial and 
error for me to ensure, that new mails are being archived. I don't 
remember what was the cause in my case. But I think the mailman-web log 
files revealed it to me.


Johannes



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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-12 Thread Johannes Rohr 


Am 12.04.23 um 13:58 schrieb Odhiambo Washington:
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot 
 wrote:



We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail
archives are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they
can be now searched, too.

Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing
list and we'll look into it.


[...]


What is the new signup method, given that signup is closed on this new 
MM3 instance?


I guess you can still subscribe via email. But why is account 
registration closed? I too manage a mailman3 instance. I cannot see any 
reason why you would want to disable account registration. A newly 
registered account does not automatically get new privileges, so this 
doesn't increase security. At the same time, it strips the user of the 
possibility to manage their account.


Johannes







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Re: Mailing list update

2023-04-12 Thread Odhiambo Washington 
On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 2:31 PM Aki Tuomi via dovecot 
wrote:

> Hi all!
>
> We finally managed to move from mailman2 to mailman3, and mail archives
> are now at https://dovecot.org/mailman3/archives and they can be now
> searched, too.
>
> Please let us know if you have face any issues with the mailing list and
> we'll look into it.
>
> Regards,
> Aki Tuomi
> Open-Xchange oy
>

What is the new signup method, given that signup is closed on this new MM3
instance?


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