Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Adrian
A vacuum tube-born radio with loads of solid state mods ? Sorry but then isn't a vacuum made receiver,transmitter, twin line ( etc ) anymore. The FUN about those boathanchors is use it as it is. If i wanna something improved...ill buy a new product. At my side, the challenging while using

Re: [Drakelist] AM with T-4XC AND L-4B

2011-12-31 Thread Eddy Swynar
On 2011-12-30, at 10:33 PM, kc9...@aol.com wrote: Thinking of running some AM on the Drake. Have a T-4XC and L-4b... Suggestions please from those that have done it Hi Lee, One immediate comment you'll get from the folks you work is that your AM signal will sound like you're using

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Curt Nixon
I have investigated the Sherwood Mods somewhat, but I found, like Steve mentioned, a lot of it is directed toward building a better contest radio. The mods really go after the close in IMD spec in CW. Other than a little better audio, it seems that UNLESS you truly want a contest rig, it may

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Garey Barrell
Adrian - You're not alone!! :-) 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Adrian wrote: A vacuum tube-born radio with loads of solid state mods ? Sorry but then isn't a vacuum made receiver,transmitter, twin line

Re: [Drakelist] AM with T-4XC AND L-4B

2011-12-31 Thread Gary Poland
I once used my C-Line with a single 500Z Ameritron AL-80. It produced about 100 watts of carrier and peaks of 600 to 700 watts. You really need to have a scope inline to check the waveform as to not over do it. 73, Gary___ Drakelist mailing list

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Garey Barrell
Gary - Amen! Happy New Year!! 73, Garey - K4OAH Glen Allen, VA Drake 2-B, 2-C/2-NT, 4-A, 4-B, C-Line and TR-4/C Service Supplement CDs www.k4oah.com Gary Poland wrote: Against my better judgment to comment on the Sherwood mods, I guess this time I can’t help myself HI HI. This subject is

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread john
I'll third it. If I want something to act like a new whizbang radio, why not get a new whizbang radio? The joy of an old piece of gear is it being an old piece of gear that still works well. I suppose the ultimate update would be to remove everything in the cabinet of a R4C and install

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread kc9cdt
The R-4C (stock) is hardly a true vacuum tube radio...very much a hybrid. Even the R-4B has quite a few transisters. Early R-4a...= tube RX...and I'm looking to get one of those some day (Dayton??) 73, Lee -Original Message- From: Adrian svi...@blably.com To: John Brown

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Kris Merschrod
To Mod or not to Mod has been an interesting theme to close out the old year, that is for sure. Happy Old Year to all, and may the new year bring excellent propagation, low noise, and resonance on all antennas and remember, to tune is to exist. Kris

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Robert Ladden
The audio amp in the stock R-4C is already solid state. The Sherwood mod for the audio amp does make it sound better and removes the big heat source right below the PTO. That is the only Sherwood mod I made, but I'm considering the power supply mod. I also installed the Hayseed Hamfest cap

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:35:11 +0100, Adrian wrote: So, at my side, a Drake product, with plenty of solid state things inside...isn't a Drake anymore. I hate to tell you this, Adrian, but your Drake already has solid state things inside. 73 -Jim -- Ham Radio NU0C Lincoln, Nebraska, U.S.S.A.

[Drakelist] R4c sherwood moods

2011-12-31 Thread DLe9480907
Well I will say it just like my two 56 chevys one bone stock plane 235 inline six with three on the tree to my Loving hot rod with a 383 stroker and nitros injection. the best of both worlds. as to Drake I have a plane Jane B line , a plane Jane C line and a hot rod fully moded R4C

Re: [Drakelist] R4c sherwood moods

2011-12-31 Thread Curt Nixon
Hi Darryl: I like that approach. No question that the mods make the C a better radio. As long as a person understands what the final product is going to be, then go for it. The performance margin that the Sherwood mods offered over comparably priced SS rigs of the day is no longer valid.

Re: [Drakelist] R4c sherwood moods

2011-12-31 Thread kc9cdt
Curt, Well, certainly a vaild staement in general..BUT. The r-4c Sherwood is still quieter than my 746 PRO was and my TT Orion II is. Still kind of like the analog dial too...very fast to move or very slow...all without any buttin pushing. Every now then...I will ONLY use my C line and L-4B

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 09:43:18 -0500, Gary Poland wrote: Probably the best reason I see against the mods, unless you have money to burn, they are very expensive. I personally would prefer the keep the Drakes stock and purchase a newer radio. Again I realize everyone is different, everyone has

Re: [Drakelist] R4c sherwood moods

2011-12-31 Thread Paul Christensen
Every now then...I will ONLY use my C line and L-4B for a whole week end... Lee, That's a great idea since it gives you the opportunity to re-visit the older technology and compare notes against recent designs. I have no issues with well-designed and implemented mods that serve an

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread L L bahr
Personally I would never consider modifying my Drakes. They work great as is. When I want 2011 technology, I use one of my modern rigs. When I turn on my Drakes, I want to experience a Drake rig, and not some cobbled up one. I no longer would consider buying any Drake rig with

Re: [Drakelist] Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread AirRadio
What an interesting selection of replies, I am not into drilling holes in equipment at all, so all the mods will be reversable, some are just common sense like changing out caps and the power board, however I do keep all the 'bits' just in case I wish to sell the radio, but this one is a

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 13:55:06 -0500 (EST), L L bahr wrote: I look at modifying a Drake rig like taking a Stanley Steamer, removing it's boiler and installing a Corvette engine in it. Maybe you wouldn't put a 'vette engine in it, but I'd bet a dollar that you would set a stadium cushion on the

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread kc9cdt
Jim, Huh? I don't see any of the MODS I have on my Sherwood R-4C as roll your own...I guess if you can design and build printed circuit boards and get all the parts including those neat front end filters you could. Another way to get a Sherwood r-4C is get one from someone selling thiers. They

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 20:32:14 -0500 (EST), kc9...@aol.com wrote: I don't see any of the MODS I have on my Sherwood R-4C as roll your own...I guess if you can design and build printed circuit boards and get all the parts including those neat front end filters you could. Sure, why not? That's

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Steve Wedge
One needs to look at these changes for what they are, in the context of their original use when they were introduced over 30 years ago. Back then, these mods did make a fairly-new radio perform much better. I can also remember ads in QST for solid-state tube replacements. I never saw any

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread kc9cdt
Jim, Of course anything can be done...it takes MANY, MANY hours just to install all of Sherwoods mods even if you get the kits from him. Then there is a modified alignment procedure too. (according to Rob, I have not had to do one since he did mine) Why invent the wheel...but as they say...go

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread kc9cdt
Steve, Have you ever had/used extensively a properly done Sherwood R-4C? I have a TT Orion II right beside it.that's a pretty good comparison machine, as would the K3... I had the Sherwood before the O II...now I really don't need the Sherwood, but I love it and it's staying. Sometimes I

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Gary Poland
Sartori Associates also made the kits available. The earliest ads I have for the Sherwood / Sartori kits is 1982. Most of the articles for R-4C improvement show up in 1979 issues of Ham Radio and 73. Fox Tango also made switchable 1st IF filters kits available they called GUF-1 and GUF-2.

Re: [Drakelist] R4C Sherwood mods

2011-12-31 Thread Jim Shorney
On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 21:04:07 -0500 (EST), kc9...@aol.com wrote: Why invent the wheel...but as they say...go for it if it trips your trigger. By the time you buy all the parts...you won't save much. Maybe you missed the part about FUN! And the sense of accomplishment. Parts are cheap.