Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread Curt Nixon
Upgrading to real RF-service tubes (6146's come to mind :) kinda pales when compared to that kind of mod. Curt LEE BAHR wrote: Many years ago, just before Drake stopped accepting TR-4 s for repair, my neighbor, WA5VGO sent his TR-4 to Drake for some repair. The radio came back with three

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread LEE BAHR
Many years ago, just before Drake stopped accepting TR-4 s for repair, my neighbor, WA5VGO sent his TR-4 to Drake for some repair. The radio came back with three different final tubes then when shipped to Drake. One of the three new tubes was as you described. A sweep tube with a printed cir

[Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread m coffey
Boy that was the first time I posted to the list. Thanks for all the info Mike, KB1EZL ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakelist

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread Don Cunningham
Yes, I really should do that, John. Bob was a Collins engineer and had many interesting experiences. I'll put that on the "to do" list. 73, Don, WB5HAK___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net http://mailman.zerobeat.net/mailman/listinfo/drakel

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread Gary Poland
Garey, A TR-4 PA cage ( without the top cover installed ) is 3 3/8 inches tall. I have had good luck with GE's, Zenith, RCA, and Sylvania's of course. I hadn't seen any that were too tall, at least not yet, HI HI. The 6GJ5's are worth a try if you can find they cheap. I have a few that came fr

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread Gary Poland
6JB6's can be matched with a Drake transmitter. Set the bias on the AC-4 and leave it be. Then measure the voltage drop across each cathode resistor with the PTT keyed, no mic. Use ohms law to figure the current of each tube. You probably would want to check the resistance of each cathode resist

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread K8AC
ject: Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A Gary - I have run into the size problem also. The RCA manual specifies outline 18A and 32 for the 6GJ5 and 6GJ5A respectively. As discussed yesterday, I have also seen 6JB6(A) that were too tall, but not of the 'four' brands. Do you have a

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread Gary Poland
I have both, a B&K emisions tester and a Hickok 6000A transconductance tester. The emisions tester is useless for testing 6JB6's beyond shorts or open filaments. Over the years I kept most of the 6JB6 pulls from my Drakes and others I repaired. With the Hickok I was able to go through them and p

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread Jose V. Gavila
Hello! Just to complicate a bit more this subject ;-), some years ago I worked on a TR-4C which had 6JM6 tubes on it. You can read about that here: http://jvgavila.com/dktr4c_1.htm They had a professional-looking adaptor on their bases but, definitely, worked. And were labeled as 6JB6A! So it s

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread Garey Barrell
Gary - I have run into the size problem also. The RCA manual specifies outline 18A and 32 for the 6GJ5 and 6GJ5A respectively. As discussed yesterday, I have also seen 6JB6(A) that were too tall, but not of the 'four' brands. Do you have a transmitter open where you can measure the ACTUAL

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread Gary Poland
I own a few pairs of 6GJ5's, one pair is too high to fit into the 4-line PA compartment. Neither set of tubes would neutralize in a T-4XC. I havent tried adding or removing capacitance to the neutalizing trimmer to see if I could get them to work. Just a heads up. 73, Gary

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-30 Thread john
NOS at $2 and $3 ea some years ago.and they are to me, indistinguishable from the JB6s. John k5mo At 02:25 AM 9/30/2010, Douglas wrote: >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:49:08 -0500 >From: "Curt" >Subject: Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A >To: >I'll never again buy

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Douglas
>Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 20:49:08 -0500 >From: "Curt" >Subject: Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A >To: >I'll never again buy vacuum tubes off of the internet, after buying from a >regular "store" on the auction site two "matched" 6JB6s, bot

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread W4AWM
Hi Don, Why not videotape an interview with this great OT and post it somewhere where we can all enjoy it. I have seen several similar interviews and they are really great. 73, John, W4AWM ___ Drakelist mailing list Drakelist@zerobeat.net ht

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Don Cunningham
And, as always, my snide comment was tongue FIRMLY planted in the cheek. Don't check out too early Chuck. I have a good friend in Richardson, TX, K5AY, in his 90's and you don't want to either challenge him to an electronic or antenna question, or challenge him to a CW speed run. He WILL win

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Chuck Grandgent
Meant to add, QCWA, 45 years. On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:59 PM, Chuck Grandgent wrote: > Of course this was only tongue-in-cheek. I plan on checking out in 2025, > long before I get to my 90's. > >Chuck > > > On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Don Cunningham wrote: > >> If they were Sylvania,

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Chuck Grandgent
Of course this was only tongue-in-cheek. I plan on checking out in 2025, long before I get to my 90's. Chuck On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:53 PM, Don Cunningham wrote: > If they were Sylvania, Chuck, you probably could, but GE's? I don't > know about that. I think that's one of the brands

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Don Cunningham
If they were Sylvania, Chuck, you probably could, but GE's? I don't know about that. I think that's one of the brands that sometimes won't neutralize. I may be wrong, and it may be RCA, but some of them don't seem to make it. 73, Don, WB5HAK___ D

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Curt
I'll never again buy vacuum tubes off of the internet, after buying from a regular "store" on the auction site two "matched" 6JB6s, both soft as pillows and useless above 40M. Of course, everything there is always "as-is". I'll also never buy anything from a big tube seller in Florida who is

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Chuck Grandgent
I have a matched pair (GE) from RF Parts I got maybe 10 years ago, packed in a wooden salt cod box. Counting on the sale proceeds to fund my retirement when I get to my 90's :) Chuck, K1OM On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Don Cunningham wrote: > The same date code doesn't have much to do wi

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Don Cunningham
The same date code doesn't have much to do with matching, Richard, but they probably are close. There is a proceedure used for matching, but you'd have to have a basketfull of them to use it anymore. Drake original tubes have a number written on top of them in magic marker. I've been lucky en

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread LeeCraner
There is a write up from Bill Frost on Drake's final matching procedure, and Bill's recommendations on how we should be doing it, on N9BOR's Drake website, _http://www.qsl.net/n9bor/drake.htm_ (http://www.qsl.net/n9bor/drake.htm) . It is worth a look. 73 Lee WB6SSW

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread john
VE3CUI - VE3XZ - Original Message - From: <mailto:r79b...@gmail.com>m coffey To: <mailto:drakelist@zerobeat.net>drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:56 PM Subject: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A Thanks for the info on 6jb6 v

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Richard Palmer
* m coffey > *To:* drakelist@zerobeat.net > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:56 PM > *Subject:* [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A > > Thanks for the info on 6jb6 vs. 6JB6A. I have seen a few 6JB6 of both > varieties on line, often advertised as MATCHED. I wonder how they have &g

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread Edward Swynar
I - VE3XZ - Original Message - From: m coffey To: drakelist@zerobeat.net Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 4:56 PM Subject: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A Thanks for the info on 6jb6 vs. 6JB6A. I have seen a few 6JB6 of both varieties on line, often advertised as MATCHED. I wonder

[Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-29 Thread m coffey
Thanks for the info on 6jb6 vs. 6JB6A. I have seen a few 6JB6 of both varieties on line, often advertised as MATCHED. I wonder how they have matched them as some have listed an emmisson only tube tester as the match unit. I am very leary of these so called matched tubes! Even the ones from the larg

Re: [Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-28 Thread Garey Barrell
Mike - The 6JB6A is identical to the 6JB6 with the exception that the "A" version is spec'd for 11 second filament warmup. This was a spec that came along because many TV sets were series filament strings, (which is also where the 3, 16, 19, etc. filament tubes came from,) and tubes warming

[Drakelist] 6JB6 vs.6JB6A

2010-09-28 Thread m coffey
Although I have been a member of the list for a while now, this is the first time that I have tried to post to it, so I hope that I have done this correctly! My question is that I have seen 6JB6A (vs. straight 6JB6) tubes listed for sale. I am wondering what difference(s) there are between th