Re: [Dri-devel] Remote OpenGL

2003-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Philip Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 10:33:15PM +, Martin Spott wrote: I don't know _why_ this works because you're not using DRI. DRI essentially for Xserver-side stuff. The X server is on the SGI. That's quite clear ;-) DRI is not involved here. You're just

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Re: [Dri-devel] DRM_READMEMORYBARRIER

2003-03-03 Thread Michel Dänzer
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 07:43, Philip Brown wrote: Could someone explain what exactly DRM_READMEMORYBARRIER is supposed to do, in the kernel driver level, please? I was initially thinking that it did some kind of enable bus memory mapping OS call. However, it is used inconsistently.

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: future of DRI? - why no one plays with Glide3.

2003-03-03 Thread Jos Fonseca
On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 01:35:08PM +, Ian Molton wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 11:58:44 + José Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me, thats arse backwards. It should be that the documentation eases people into develpoing the code. not the other way round. But there *are* specs

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: future of DRI? - why no one plays with Glide3.

2003-03-03 Thread Ian Molton
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 14:58:01 + José Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can get back now to your dri-has-no-docs-and-developers/ihvs-are-elitists speech for all I care. No thanks. I'll just continue reverse engineering my e740. ---

[Dri-devel] Updated texmem-0-0-2 design document (03-Mar-03)

2003-03-03 Thread Ian Romanick
Not too many updates this time. There are a few issues that I really want to discuss work out before any coding begins. 1. Felix Kuhling asked, basically, how does a process manage the memory blocks that it has claimed. The issue is that each process owns a set of memory_blocks that may or

Re: [Dri-devel] DRM_READMEMORYBARRIER

2003-03-03 Thread Philip Brown
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 02:48:32PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote: ... Besides which, DRM(ioremap) seems to do the *actual* mapping to kernel space which still leaves the question of, what does DRM_READMEMORYBARRIER() do? As the name says, it issues a memory barrier. :) I beg to

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: future of DRI? - why no one plays with Glide3.

2003-03-03 Thread Philip Brown
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 02:58:01PM +, José Fonseca wrote: ... An existing DRI driver has much more relevant information for a developer than the hardware specs. except for the fact that the dri cvs tree, seems to have some sort of auto-applied strip for source code on commit. As strip

[Dri-devel] Weekly IRC meeting

2003-03-03 Thread Ian Romanick
Hello all. I'm going to be fairly late for today's meeting. I have an appointment at 1:00PST, so I probably won't be there until about 2:30PST. There are a couple things that I'd *REALLY* like to talk about. I'll be on the channel, so I'll have any disucssion that I miss in my log. 1. I'd

[Dri-devel] Weekly IRC meeting reminder

2003-03-03 Thread Ian Romanick
This is just a friendly reminder that the weekly dri-devel IRC meeting will be starting in the #dri-devel channel on irc.freenode.net at 2100 UTC (or 4:00PM EST or 1:00PST, if you prefer). Time zone conversion available at: http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc.tzc Logs of previous IRC

[Dri-devel] Re: future of DRI? - why no one plays with Glide3. - documentation.

2003-03-03 Thread Smitty
On Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:34:27 -0500 (EST) Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Smitty wrote: OK but here is my take on it, people will work on what they are interested in, so if someone wants to work on R128 and ATI does give out docs for that chip then they should give

[Dri-devel] Re: future of DRI? - why no one plays with Glide3. - documentation.

2003-03-03 Thread Mike A. Harris
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Smitty wrote: I'd love to see more vendors providing specs, and doing so more openly, and preferably without NDAs. Ragging on vendors who do permit access to docs under NDA to people of their choosing, for not providing them to the world, is more likely to dry up access

Re: [Dri-devel] Updated texmem-0-0-2 design document (03-Mar-03)

2003-03-03 Thread Felix Kühling
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:38:40 -0800 Ian Romanick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not too many updates this time. There are a few issues that I really want to discuss work out before any coding begins. 1. Felix Kuhling asked, basically, how does a process manage the memory blocks that it has

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [adaplas@pol.net: Re: [Linux-fbdev-devel] Fwd:Re: [Dri-devel] future of DRI?]

2003-03-03 Thread Antonino Daplas
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 09:25, Alan Cox wrote: On early athlon you prefetch non cached memory and the cpu corrupts its cache, on PII, PII mmap frame buffer against a cached page, but the right kind of instruction in a loop with the instruction bridging the two memory types and run it in a tight

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Re: future of DRI? - why no one plays withGlide3.

2003-03-03 Thread Alan Cox
On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:38, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Ian Molton wrote: You can get back now to your dri-has-no-docs-and-developers/ihvs-are-elitists speech for all I care. No thanks. I'll just continue reverse engineering my e740. e740, or i740? AFAIK, i740 has

Re: [Dri-devel] DRM_READMEMORYBARRIER

2003-03-03 Thread Alan Young
On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:48:54 -0800 Philip Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But anyway, sounds like I can NOP it out, I guess. You may be able to NOP it if your platform does not require it. I know the Alpha uses memory barriers. I think PPC may use them too.

Re: [Dri-devel] DRM_READMEMORYBARRIER

2003-03-03 Thread Philip Brown
On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 05:42:24PM -0800, Alan Young wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2003 10:48:54 -0800 Philip Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But anyway, sounds like I can NOP it out, I guess. You may be able to NOP it if your platform does not require it. I know the Alpha uses

[Dri-devel] Re: Re: Re: future of DRI? - why no one plays with Glide3.

2003-03-03 Thread Tom Hosiawa
An existing DRI driver has much more relevant information for a developer than the hardware specs. except for the fact that the dri cvs tree, seems to have some sort of auto-applied strip for source code on commit. As strip binaryname strips out debug information, this auto-strip seems

Re: [Dri-devel] Re: Re: future of DRI? - why no one plays withGlide3.

2003-03-03 Thread David Bronaugh
On 04 Mar 2003 00:06:48 + Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2003-03-03 at 20:38, Mike A. Harris wrote: On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Ian Molton wrote: You can get back now to your dri-has-no-docs-and-developers/ihvs-are-elitists speech for all I care. No thanks. I'll just