Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-24 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:51 PM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 1:33 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > > But reading code is too hard I guess, safer to assume it's just > > broken and not supported. > > I confirm there's lots of documentation (and even more code ;-),

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-24 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 24.01.22 um 19:38 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: Hi Daniel, On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:55 AM Daniel Vetter wrote: Just to clarify, since we had lots of smaller and bigger misunderstandings in the thread thus far: DRM_FORMAT_RGB332 exists, so drm support that already. The fbdev emulation

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-24 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Daniel, On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 1:33 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > But reading code is too hard I guess, safer to assume it's just > broken and not supported. I confirm there's lots of documentation (and even more code ;-), which is always great! But both are intimidating to me, and most of the

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-24 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 7:39 PM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:55 AM Daniel Vetter wrote: > > Just to clarify, since we had lots of smaller and bigger > > misunderstandings in the thread thus far: DRM_FORMAT_RGB332 exists, so > > drm support that already.

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-24 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Daniel, On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:55 AM Daniel Vetter wrote: > Just to clarify, since we had lots of smaller and bigger > misunderstandings in the thread thus far: DRM_FORMAT_RGB332 exists, so > drm support that already. The fbdev emulation doesn't yet, but all > that's needed for that is

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-21 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 9:46 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Hi, > > > What I still don't understand: why are you so keen on maintaining an > > interface that only serves the console? Nothing else uses fbdev these days. > > Why not improve DRM/userspace to the point where it fits your requirements?

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-21 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > What I still don't understand: why are you so keen on maintaining an > interface that only serves the console? Nothing else uses fbdev these days. > Why not improve DRM/userspace to the point where it fits your requirements? > Long-term, the latter would make a lot more sense. And note

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-20 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > fbcon could do the same, i.e. render to fbdev in a 60Hz timer instead of > > doing it synchronously. > > Hopefully only the parts of the screen which need a redraw? Sure. drm fbdev emulation with shadow framebuffer tracks changes and only flushes dirty areas to the real framebuffer.

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-20 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Daniel, On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 1:33 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 1:13 PM Geert Uytterhoeven > wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:33 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:06 AM Geert Uytterhoeven > > > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 4:29

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-20 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 1:13 PM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Hi Daniel, > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:33 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:06 AM Geert Uytterhoeven > > wrote: > > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 4:29 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-20 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Daniel, On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 12:33 PM Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:06 AM Geert Uytterhoeven > wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 4:29 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:33:23AM +0200, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:47:39

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-20 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 10:06 AM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Hi Gerd, > > On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 4:29 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:33:23AM +0200, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:47:39 +0100 > > > Sven Schnelle wrote: > > > > > > > I also tested

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-20 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Gerd, On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 4:29 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:33:23AM +0200, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:47:39 +0100 > > Sven Schnelle wrote: > > > > > I also tested the speed on my Thinkpad X1 with Intel graphics, and there > > > a dmesg with

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-19 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 10:53:52 +0100 Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:33:23AM +0200, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:47:39 +0100 > > Sven Schnelle wrote: > > > > > I also tested the speed on my Thinkpad X1 with Intel graphics, and there > > > a dmesg with 919

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Simon Ser
On Tuesday, January 18th, 2022 at 15:23, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Am 18.01.22 um 09:10 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: > > Hi Gerd, > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:30 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > >> Also note that using a shadow framebuffer allows to decouple fbcon > >> updates and scanout

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 18.01.22 um 09:10 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: Hi Gerd, On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:30 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: Also note that using a shadow framebuffer allows to decouple fbcon updates and scanout framebuffer updates. Can be used to speed up things without depending on the 2d blitter.

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 17.01.22 um 17:21 schrieb Helge Deller: On 1/17/22 16:58, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: Hi Am 17.01.22 um 16:42 schrieb Helge Deller: [...] c) reintroduce the state where fbcon is fast on fbdev. This is important for non-DRM machines,     either when run on native hardware or in an

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 17.01.22 um 19:47 schrieb Sven Schnelle: Hi Thomas, Thomas Zimmermann writes: Hi Am 14.01.22 um 19:11 schrieb Helge Deller: The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. Signed-off-by: Helge Deller First of all, thank you for

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > fbcon/fbdev emulation: RGB332 support must be added I think. But both > > argb888 and rgb565 are supported today, so it should not be hard to find > > the places where you have to add some code to handle RGB332 too. > > I'd expect that that framework is provided by DRM developers if

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Simon Ser
On Tuesday, January 18th, 2022 at 12:41, Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:41 AM Geert Uytterhoeven > wrote: > > > > Hi Jani, > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:38 AM Jani Nikula > > wrote: > > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller wrote: > > > > On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > > fbcon could do the same, i.e. render to fbdev in a 60Hz timer instead of > > doing it synchronously. > > Yeah, and if you use the shadow fb support in drm fbdev helpers, > that's what you get. Maybe we should just make that the default, since > that would also greatly simply stuff like

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:10 AM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Hi Gerd, > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:30 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > Also note that using a shadow framebuffer allows to decouple fbcon > > updates and scanout framebuffer updates. Can be used to speed up > > things without

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/18/22 12:18, Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:56 AM Helge Deller wrote: >> >> On 1/18/22 09:38, Jani Nikula wrote: >>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller wrote: On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >> Seems

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:41 AM Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Hi Jani, > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:38 AM Jani Nikula > wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller wrote: > > > On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote: > > >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > > >>> Seems like few

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:54 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:33:23AM +0200, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:47:39 +0100 > > Sven Schnelle wrote: > > > > > I also tested the speed on my Thinkpad X1 with Intel graphics, and there > > > a dmesg with 919

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:56 AM Helge Deller wrote: > > On 1/18/22 09:38, Jani Nikula wrote: > > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller wrote: > >> On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote: > >>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Seems like few people read linux-fbdev these days. > >>>

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:55 PM Ilia Mirkin wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:47 PM Helge Deller wrote: > > > > On 1/17/22 17:21, Helge Deller wrote: > > > On 1/17/22 16:58, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > > >> Hi > > >> > > >> Am 17.01.22 um 16:42 schrieb Helge Deller: > > >>> [...] > > > c)

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Sven Schnelle
Hi Michel, Michel Dänzer writes: > On 2022-01-17 19:47, Sven Schnelle wrote: >> >>> * There's no new development in fbdev and there are no new >>>drivers. Everyone works on DRM, which is better in most >>>regards. The consequence is that userspace is slowly loosing the >>> ability

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/18/22 11:13, Helge Deller wrote: > On 1/18/22 10:16, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 09:20:43AM +0100, Helge Deller wrote: >>> On 1/18/22 07:29, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but text-console emulation/scrolling on > DRM is > currently

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/18/22 10:16, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 09:20:43AM +0100, Helge Deller wrote: >> On 1/18/22 07:29, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: Please correct me if I'm wrong, but text-console emulation/scrolling on DRM is currently unaccelerated and bound to Truecolour modes

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:33:23AM +0200, Pekka Paalanen wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:47:39 +0100 > Sven Schnelle wrote: > > > I also tested the speed on my Thinkpad X1 with Intel graphics, and there > > a dmesg with 919 lines one the text console took about 2s to display. In > > x11, i

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Javier, On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 10:33 AM Javier Martinez Canillas wrote: > On 1/18/22 09:54, Helge Deller wrote: > > On 1/18/22 09:38, Jani Nikula wrote: > >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller wrote: > >>> On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Javier Martinez Canillas
On 1/18/22 09:54, Helge Deller wrote: > On 1/18/22 09:38, Jani Nikula wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller wrote: >>> On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote: On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Seems like few people read linux-fbdev these days. How much traffic

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 09:20:43AM +0100, Helge Deller wrote: > On 1/18/22 07:29, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > >> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but text-console emulation/scrolling on > >> DRM is > >> currently unaccelerated and bound to Truecolour modes only, > > > > Yes. Adding support for formats

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/18/22 09:41, Helge Deller wrote: > Hello Daniel, > > On 1/17/22 16:00, Daniel Vetter wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:16 PM Helge Deller wrote: >>> On 1/17/22 11:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: > > The fbdev layer is orphaned, but

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Michel Dänzer
On 2022-01-17 19:47, Sven Schnelle wrote: > >> * There's no new development in fbdev and there are no new >>drivers. Everyone works on DRM, which is better in most >>regards. The consequence is that userspace is slowly loosing the >> ability to use fbdev. > > That might be caused by

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/18/22 09:38, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller wrote: >> On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote: >>> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: Seems like few people read linux-fbdev these days. >>> >>> How much traffic is there to linux-fbdev that is *not* Cc'd to

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Helge Deller
Hello Daniel, On 1/17/22 16:00, Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:16 PM Helge Deller wrote: >> On 1/17/22 11:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. So I'd like to

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Jani, On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:38 AM Jani Nikula wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller wrote: > > On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote: > >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > >>> Seems like few people read linux-fbdev these days. > >> > >> How much traffic is there to

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Jani Nikula
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Helge Deller wrote: > On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote: >> On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >>> Seems like few people read linux-fbdev these days. >> >> How much traffic is there to linux-fbdev that is *not* Cc'd to dri-devel >> also? > > Doesn't seem like

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Pekka Paalanen
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 19:47:39 +0100 Sven Schnelle wrote: > I also tested the speed on my Thinkpad X1 with Intel graphics, and there > a dmesg with 919 lines one the text console took about 2s to display. In > x11, i measure 22ms. This might be unfair because encoding might be > different, but i

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/18/22 07:29, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: >> Please correct me if I'm wrong, but text-console emulation/scrolling on DRM >> is >> currently unaccelerated and bound to Truecolour modes only, > > Yes. Adding support for formats beside argb to the drm fbcon > emulation shouldn't be that much of a

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/18/22 07:11, Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 02:29:47PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> Hi Gerd, >> >> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:57 PM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: b) to include new drivers (for old hardware) if they arrive (probably happens rarely but there can be).

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-18 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Gerd, On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 7:30 AM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > Also note that using a shadow framebuffer allows to decouple fbcon > updates and scanout framebuffer updates. Can be used to speed up > things without depending on the 2d blitter. Assuming accesses to the shadow frame buffer are

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > Please correct me if I'm wrong, but text-console emulation/scrolling on DRM is > currently unaccelerated and bound to Truecolour modes only, Yes. Adding support for formats beside argb to the drm fbcon emulation shouldn't be that much of a problem though. Acceleration is harder.

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 02:29:47PM +0100, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi Gerd, > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:57 PM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > > b) to include new drivers (for old hardware) if they arrive (probably > > > happens rarely but there can be). > > >I know of at least one driver

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Ilia Mirkin
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:47 PM Helge Deller wrote: > > On 1/17/22 17:21, Helge Deller wrote: > > On 1/17/22 16:58, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > >> Hi > >> > >> Am 17.01.22 um 16:42 schrieb Helge Deller: > >>> [...] > > c) reintroduce the state where fbcon is fast on fbdev. This is > >

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/17/22 22:40, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >> Seems like few people read linux-fbdev these days. > > How much traffic is there to linux-fbdev that is *not* Cc'd to dri-devel > also? Doesn't seem like much traffic - which IMHO is OK for such a tree with

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Jani Nikula
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Seems like few people read linux-fbdev these days. How much traffic is there to linux-fbdev that is *not* Cc'd to dri-devel also? Do we still need a separate linux-fbdev mailing list at all? BR, Jani. -- Jani Nikula, Intel Open Source Graphics

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/17/22 16:03, Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 3:48 PM Helge Deller wrote: >> >> On 1/17/22 15:10, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >>> Hi Thomas, >>> >>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:51 PM Thomas Zimmermann >>> wrote: Am 17.01.22 um 14:29 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: > On Mon,

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/17/22 17:21, Helge Deller wrote: > On 1/17/22 16:58, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >> Hi >> >> Am 17.01.22 um 16:42 schrieb Helge Deller: >>> [...] > c) reintroduce the state where fbcon is fast on fbdev. This is important > for non-DRM machines, >     either when run on native

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Sven Schnelle
Hi Thomas, Thomas Zimmermann writes: > Hi > > Am 14.01.22 um 19:11 schrieb Helge Deller: >> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. >> So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. >> Signed-off-by: Helge Deller > > First of all, thank you for stepping up to maintain the fbdev >

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/17/22 17:38, Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 5:22 PM Helge Deller wrote: >> >> On 1/17/22 16:58, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Am 17.01.22 um 16:42 schrieb Helge Deller: [...] >> c) reintroduce the state where fbcon is fast on fbdev. This is important

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 5:22 PM Helge Deller wrote: > > On 1/17/22 16:58, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > > Hi > > > > Am 17.01.22 um 16:42 schrieb Helge Deller: > >> [...] > c) reintroduce the state where fbcon is fast on fbdev. This is important > for non-DRM machines, > either

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/17/22 16:58, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Hi > > Am 17.01.22 um 16:42 schrieb Helge Deller: >> [...] c) reintroduce the state where fbcon is fast on fbdev. This is important for non-DRM machines,     either when run on native hardware or in an emulator. d) not break DRM

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
Hi Thomas, On 1/17/22 16:05, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Hi > > Am 17.01.22 um 15:47 schrieb Helge Deller: >> On 1/17/22 15:10, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: >> [...] >>> Using an XRGB32 intermediate would kill the user experience on old >>> machines, due to both increased memory usage and copy

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 17.01.22 um 16:42 schrieb Helge Deller: > [...] c) reintroduce the state where fbcon is fast on fbdev. This is important for non-DRM machines, either when run on native hardware or in an emulator. d) not break DRM development Especially regarding c) I complained in [1] and got no

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 4:43 PM Helge Deller wrote: > > On 1/17/22 16:00, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:16 PM Helge Deller wrote: > >> > >> Hello Daniel, > >> > >> On 1/17/22 11:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: > >>> Hi Helge > >>> > >>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/17/22 16:00, Daniel Vetter wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:16 PM Helge Deller wrote: >> >> Hello Daniel, >> >> On 1/17/22 11:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: >>> Hi Helge >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 17.01.22 um 15:47 schrieb Helge Deller: On 1/17/22 15:10, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: [...] Using an XRGB32 intermediate would kill the user experience on old machines, due to both increased memory usage and copy overhead. Personally, I'd much appreciate if userspace would support more

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 3:48 PM Helge Deller wrote: > > On 1/17/22 15:10, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > > > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:51 PM Thomas Zimmermann > > wrote: > >> Am 17.01.22 um 14:29 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: > >>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:57 PM Gerd Hoffmann

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Daniel Vetter
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:16 PM Helge Deller wrote: > > Hello Daniel, > > On 1/17/22 11:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: > > Hi Helge > > > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: > >> > >> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. > >> So I'd like to step up as new

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 17.01.22 um 15:10 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: [...] Which uses an DRM_FORMAT_XRGB intermediate, and drm_fb_xrgb_to_gray8() and repaper_gray8_to_mono_reversed() to convert from truecolor to monochrome. I guess that would work, as this is a slow e-ink display. Have fun as a text

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
On 1/17/22 15:10, Geert Uytterhoeven wrote: > Hi Thomas, > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:51 PM Thomas Zimmermann wrote: >> Am 17.01.22 um 14:29 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: >>> On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:57 PM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > b) to include new drivers (for old hardware) if they arrive

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Thomas, On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 2:51 PM Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Am 17.01.22 um 14:29 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:57 PM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > >>> b) to include new drivers (for old hardware) if they arrive (probably > >>> happens rarely but there can be). >

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 17.01.22 um 14:29 schrieb Geert Uytterhoeven: Hi Gerd, On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:57 PM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: b) to include new drivers (for old hardware) if they arrive (probably happens rarely but there can be). I know of at least one driver which won't be able to support DRM

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Gerd, On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 1:57 PM Gerd Hoffmann wrote: > > b) to include new drivers (for old hardware) if they arrive (probably > > happens rarely but there can be). > >I know of at least one driver which won't be able to support DRM > > Hmm? I seriously doubt that. There is

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Gerd Hoffmann
Hi, > b) to include new drivers (for old hardware) if they arrive (probably happens > rarely but there can be). >I know of at least one driver which won't be able to support DRM Hmm? I seriously doubt that. There is always the option to use a shadow framebuffer, then convert from

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
Hello Daniel, On 1/17/22 11:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: > Hi Helge > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: >> >> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. >> So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. >> >> Signed-off-by: Helge Deller >> >> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 17.01.22 um 12:33 schrieb Helge Deller: Hi Thomas, On 1/17/22 12:16, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: Hi Am 14.01.22 um 19:11 schrieb Helge Deller: The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. Signed-off-by: Helge Deller First of all,

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
Hi Thomas, On 1/17/22 12:16, Thomas Zimmermann wrote: > Hi > > Am 14.01.22 um 19:11 schrieb Helge Deller: >> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. >> So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. >> >> Signed-off-by: Helge Deller > > First of all, thank you for stepping up to

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Thomas Zimmermann
Hi Am 14.01.22 um 19:11 schrieb Helge Deller: The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. Signed-off-by: Helge Deller First of all, thank you for stepping up to maintain the fbdev codebase. It really needs someone actively looking

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Helge Deller
Hello Jani, On 1/17/22 11:49, Jani Nikula wrote: > On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Daniel Vetter wrote: >> Hi Helge >> >> On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: >>> >>> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. >>> So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. >>> >>>

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Jani Nikula
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, Daniel Vetter wrote: > Hi Helge > > On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: >> >> The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. >> So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. >> >> Signed-off-by: Helge Deller >> >> diff --git a/MAINTAINERS

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Javier Martinez Canillas
On 1/17/22 11:02, Daniel Vetter wrote: [snip] >> FRAMEBUFFER LAYER >> -L: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org >> +M: Helge Deller >> L: linux-fb...@vger.kernel.org >> -S: Orphan > > Maybe don't rush maintainer changes in over the w/e without even bothering > to get any input from

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Daniel Vetter
Hi Helge On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: > > The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. > So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. > > Signed-off-by: Helge Deller > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > index 5d0cd537803a..ce47dbc467cc 100644 > ---

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-17 Thread Daniel Vetter
Hi Helge On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:18 PM Helge Deller wrote: > > The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. > So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. > > Signed-off-by: Helge Deller > > diff --git a/MAINTAINERS b/MAINTAINERS > index 5d0cd537803a..ce47dbc467cc 100644 > ---

Re: [PATCH] MAINTAINERS: Add Helge as fbdev maintainer

2022-01-14 Thread Geert Uytterhoeven
Hi Helge, On Fri, Jan 14, 2022 at 7:12 PM Helge Deller wrote: > The fbdev layer is orphaned, but seems to need some care. > So I'd like to step up as new maintainer. > > Signed-off-by: Helge Deller Thanks a lot! Acked-by: Geert Uytterhoeven Gr{oetje,eeting}s, Geert