RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR newcomer FINISH

2010-05-17 Thread ovaltr...@gmail.com
Thanks for that, now I know. Not really my kind of music though. Just waiting for the bus home. Love Roger XXX -Original Message- From: Mike Besemer (WM4B) Sent: 17/05/2010 1:40:50 am To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: DSTAR newcomer FINISH FWIW,

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR newcomer FINISH

2010-05-17 Thread Mike Besemer (WM4B)
Whatever that was supposed to mean… WM4B From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ovaltr...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 5:41 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] DSTAR newcomer FINISH Thanks for

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread bruce mallon
I only had 1 or 2 of the classic negative hams.   Ok what is a   classic negative hams. do you mean people who have no intrest or don't beleve the hype ?. There are number of manufacturers making equipment for D-STAR. We can make a non D-STAR radio a D-STAR radio, and we now have approved

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dayton? Forum, videos

2010-05-17 Thread Gary Pearce KN4AQ
At 11:37 PM 5/16/2010, brad_k9mhz wrote: My first D-STAR forum at Dayton, and it was probably one of the best forums that I've ever seen at Dayton, on any topic. I think I'm going to really enjoy this D-STAR gig. Best, Brad, K9MHZ I'll take this opportunity for a crass commercial

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Woodrick, Ed
My definition is one of those hams who just have to be negative about everything. Just like those who didn't think that SSB would ever catch on, just like those who didn't think that FM and repeaters were real amateur radio because a repeater can lose power and go off the air. The one

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Dayton? Forum, videos

2010-05-17 Thread Woodrick, Ed
And might I saw what awesome, professional videos they are! Ed WA4YIH From: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com [mailto:dstar_digi...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Pearce KN4AQ Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:25 AM To: dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com; dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re:

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Jonathan Naylor
The one question that I got referred to a mistaken concept that D-STAR was a closed protocol. We explained that the D-STAR protocol is open and defined by the JARL. Sitting right next to us was Internet Labs with the DVDongle and DVAP and David with his non-Icom repeater, great examples of

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread bruce mallon
You mean my Bc-348, Arc-3 or scr-522 is not state of the art ? Your morning chuckle go look at my station photo on QRZ,COM . But ... your right some never change . your point is now understood .     My definition is one of those hams who just have to be negative about everything.

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Woodrick, Ed
How many manufacturers have the code for their microprocessors published? Yes it is the same thing. Over the air is published, while a number of off the air items aren't published. I'd really like to get into the source code of some of my radios and change the way it does things, but I can't.

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Nate Duehr
On 5/17/2010 11:57 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: And while you indicate that the G2 and DPlus protocols aren't open source, they definitely have been reversed engineered and we have third party solutions talking to them now. Which ones? Where can one find information on them? Did they publish

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Woodrick, Ed
Nate, Nope, they aren't readily available for you to read. Did you see that written anywhere in what I said? Did you see me publish a URL to it? But if you would do a little legwork and reading, you'll find that indeed, the hotspots access the DPlus network and that the G4ULF repeater is

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread John Hays
On May 17, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Nate Duehr wrote: On 5/17/2010 11:57 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: And while you indicate that the G2 and DPlus protocols aren’t open source, they definitely have been reversed engineered and we have third party solutions talking to them now. Which ones? Where

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:57 AM 5/18/2010, Woodrick, Ed wrote: And while you indicate that the G2 and DPlus protocols aren't open source, they definitely have been reversed engineered and we have third party solutions talking to them now. This also has precedent. The exact same thing happened with Echolink,

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Tony Langdon
At 05:22 AM 5/18/2010, you wrote: But if you would do a little legwork and reading, you'll find that indeed, the hotspots access the DPlus network and that the G4ULF repeater is accessing the G2 network. I think Nate is asking for the results of the reverse engineering, not (closed)

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Nate Duehr
On 5/17/2010 1:22 PM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: Nope, they aren't readily available for you to read. Did you see that written anywhere in what I said? Did you see me publish a URL to it? That's all I asked. Thank you for confirming that the answer is no, and that D-STAR development is as

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Ted Wrobel
Nate, Take a deep breath, climb down off your high horse and find something else to do! You critical, repetitive comments add nothing to the group. If you dislike D-Star, or wish it was something else, why don't you go and create that something else? It is what it is, and it will always be

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Nate Duehr
On 5/17/2010 1:51 PM, John Hays wrote: On 5/17/2010 11:57 AM, Woodrick, Ed wrote: And while you indicate that the G2 and DPlus protocols aren’t open source, they definitely have been reversed engineered and we have third party solutions talking to them now. Which ones? Where can one

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Jay Maynard
On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 05:31:49PM -0400, Ted Wrobel wrote: Take a deep breath, climb down off your high horse and find something else to do! You critical, repetitive comments add nothing to the group. If you dislike D-Star, or wish it was something else, why don't you go and create that

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Honest questions .....

2010-05-17 Thread Woodrick, Ed
Nate, D-STAR Development is NOT CLOSED! The D-STAR air protocol is published. The network that Icom created is proprietary, but there's nothing that says that it is the only network that can be used. Go look at the stuff that Scott and the X-Trust server team has created. I believe that most

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] For Sale: IC-91AD Complete Package

2010-05-17 Thread dmascare...@ymail.com
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[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: For Sale: IC-91AD Complete Package

2010-05-17 Thread n9aa
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