[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-05 Thread ham44865
No. The Open G2/linking is FREE Under GPL/Linux and the source code plus instructions on how to build from source code are posted at: SOURCEFORGE http://dstardextra.sourceforge.net/ It cant get more OPEN than that. What you are reporting is, that some people, were hacking into that old web si

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-05 Thread Tony Langdon
At 09:04 AM 10/6/2009, you wrote: >Ah - that would be much like the terse response I got to ask to join >the rtpDir group then ? I got booted 2 or 3 times without explanation, then the last attempt, the group was closed and I just got a rejected notice. >I was told that my access attempt was b

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-05 Thread dlake02
Ah - that would be much like the terse response I got to ask to join the rtpDir group then ? I was told that my access attempt was being logged, and I would be reported to the FBI... --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Tony Langdon wrote: > > At 03:22 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote: > > >2. Who

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-05 Thread ham44865
There is a small piece of code, about 5% of the total source code, that 5% is binary ONLY, because we do not want the owner to change it at all, because if it gets changed, then the TRUST can get messed up and then the whole Open G2 Gateway effort goes down the drain. QSO? 73

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-05 Thread ham44865
Same thing. Once you load it, it becomes Open G2 DSTAR Gateway. --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, John Hays wrote: > > I am finding the Dextra software here, not the Open G2 gateway > replacement. > > > On Oct 4, 2009, at 10:11 PM, ham44865 wrote: > > > > > Open G2 Gateway and linking i

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-05 Thread John Hays
I am finding the Dextra software here, not the Open G2 gateway replacement. On Oct 4, 2009, at 10:11 PM, ham44865 wrote: Open G2 Gateway and linking is now OPEN SOURCE at sourgeforge under a GPL/"Free" License at: http://dstardextra.sourceforge.net/ I am sure you can download the source C

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-05 Thread ham44865
Latest TRUST updates from the US TRUST, we are getting 2.1 MB of data of US TRUST updates every 1 hour and we are processing all of that with our Open G2 Gateway in about 17 seconds. That is a record so far. With the European TRUST, we are getting 1.6 MB of data of TRUST updates and we are pr

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-04 Thread ham44865
Open G2 Gateway and linking is now OPEN SOURCE at sourgeforge under a GPL/"Free" License at: http://dstardextra.sourceforge.net/ I am sure you can download the source C files. About 310 downloads of the Open G2 software, so far. If you can not, give me a holler. I can also install it and confi

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-04 Thread Nate Duehr
Ahh yes, the same "be patient" story that was told about rptDir ... Because you know, that's how ALL the best open-source projects work. They hold back code in case "hackers" might see it, and store it in a closed YahooGroup's Files area. Nate On Oct 4, 2009, at 4:04 PM, ham44865 wrote: >

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-04 Thread ham44865
> "Around the country" means around the USA? Yes. > What international fair is that? ICC or something, not sure of the exact name. > ...that are part of the K5TIT trust server network? Yes. It is beautiful, the way it works. Running tcpdump and watching how the ICOM controller talks to our Open

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-04 Thread Bob McCormick W1QA
Scott KI4LKF wrote: > We will wait a little longer so that the software can be > presented at the International Fair this November, ... What international fair is that? > Currently we are busy taking "orders" and installing it > around the country at multiple ICOM G2 hardware sites > and also

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-04 Thread ham44865
Most of the Open G2 has been released at sourceforge: http://dstardextra.sourceforge.net/ under GPL The rest of it is being installed at multiple sites with either our RPTR/gmsk program that controls a GMSK RF modem(adapter,node,...) or all ICOM G2 software (dsgwd, dsipsvd) removed and our Op

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-04 Thread Tony Langdon
At 03:22 AM 10/5/2009, you wrote: >2. Who controls it? >"The D_STAR_Open_Source_group" I would also be asking about the guarantee of access to the download/support forum as well, without arbitrary decisions about who can enter the support forum. >3. What license is it released under? >"The D_

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-04 Thread Jack Hamilton
On Oct 4, 2009, at 11:10 am, John Hays wrote: > Which is a closed and restricted Yahoo! Group. And since "open source" requires that the source be available to the general public, the project in question is not open source. > > Next... > > -- > John D. Hays > 206-801-0820 > Sent from my iPh

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-04 Thread John Hays
Which is a closed and restricted Yahoo! Group. Next... -- John D. Hays 206-801-0820 Sent from my iPhone On Oct 4, 2009, at 9:22, Nate Duehr wrote: > So, was that the answer to all three questions posed? > > 1. Where's the source available from? > "The D_STAR_Open_Source_group" > > 2. Who contr

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-04 Thread Nate Duehr
So, was that the answer to all three questions posed? 1. Where's the source available from? "The D_STAR_Open_Source_group" 2. Who controls it? "The D_STAR_Open_Source_group" 3. What license is it released under? "The D_STAR_Open_Source_group" Nate WY0X On Oct 3, 2009, at 10:11 AM, ham44865 wro

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-03 Thread Bob McCormick W1QA
Scott KI4LKF wrote: > Their European ICOM TRUST server has > 404 DSTAR gateways in the SYNC_GIP > and 7800 registred radio users in the SYNC_RIP table. Based on the numbers presented at Dayton in May 2009 regarding where the K5TIT trust server was ... those numbers sound pretty high. Did this

Re: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-03 Thread Tony Langdon
At 06:05 AM 10/4/2009, you wrote: >Will I open-source it ? Probably not. Why ? Because the D-Star >network is so fragile, that if someone changes something in my code >that breaks the network, I will get the blame, and that will pull >any chance of future development. I can certainly unders

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-03 Thread Bob McCormick W1QA
Pete AE5PL wrote: > > D-STAR is not a trademark of ICOM America. > > Umm, yes it is in the US. Actually, it is a trademark of Icom > Incorporated, not Icom America. > http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4001:80rd3f.2.1 > I believe, specifically, this is in reference to their D-STA

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-03 Thread ham44865
That was to test the Open G2 with the ICOM repeater controller hardware. We stopped the ICOM dsgwd and dsipsvd on one of their ICOM gateways/repeaters and see if we can talk to the ICOM repeater controller hardware. The European ICOM TRUST server does not come into play. Do you understand ? Thei

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-03 Thread ham44865
The communication is between the ICOM repeater controller hardware and the local Open G2. We are not talking about TRUST servers, as long as the TRUST server is ICOM, it is fine. The point was to stop the local ICOM dsgwd and have an Open G2 alternative talking to ICOM's hardware. You see wha

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-03 Thread ae5pl
--- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, "Bob McCormick W1QA" wrote: > > D-STAR is not a trademark of ICOM America. Umm, yes it is in the US. Actually, it is a trademark of Icom Incorporated, not Icom America. http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4001:80rd3f.2.1 I believe, specific

RE: [DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-03 Thread Bob McCormick W1QA
David G4LUF wrote: > As people have been working hard to fix the routing between the Japanese > and non-Japanese networks, it is my belief that it is unhelpful for any > individual to promote further partition of the worldwide D-Star network. I second that assessment. Found at: http://tech.grou

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-03 Thread dlake02
Scott "European G2 TRUST server at: xtrust2.xreflector.net" There is no European Trust Server. There are a group of German D-Star users that have declared UDI from the one-and-only worldwide G2 Trust Server and hence partitioned the network. As people have been working hard to fix the routing

[DSTAR_DIGITAL] Re: Finally, an Open G2 that runs on ICOM repeater-controller hardware.

2009-10-03 Thread ham44865
The "D_STAR_Open_Source group" http://groups.yahoo.com/group/D_STAR_Open_Source/ 73 --- In dstar_digital@yahoogroups.com, Nate Duehr wrote: > > "Open" is such a badly misused term these days. > > Where's the source code available from, and who controls it, under > what license? > > Nate WY0X