[dwm] Re: Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread Wu Zhe
Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org writes: Intel's Atom processors are modern and have probably the highest performance per watt ration. However, the smallest affordable form-factor is mini-itx (I talked to several companies that manufacture smaller industrial boards, but the price

Re: [dwm] Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread yy
While I really like Asus products (I'm very happy with my eee), maybe the msi catalog is also worth a look. Both windbox and windnettop look like interesting fanless desktop replacements in the same line than the eeebox. If you want to have your own server the idea of accompanying one of these

Re: [dwm] Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 03:23:39PM +0200, yy wrote: While I really like Asus products (I'm very happy with my eee), maybe the msi catalog is also worth a look. Both windbox and windnettop look like interesting fanless desktop replacements in the same line than the eeebox. If you want to have

Re: [dwm] Re: Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 07:42:11PM +0800, Wu Zhe wrote: Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org writes: Intel's Atom processors are modern and have probably the highest performance per watt ration. However, the smallest affordable form-factor is mini-itx (I talked to several companies that

Re: [dwm] Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread voltaic
I have been looking into this kind of thing myself. What I found is that getting an Atom nettop computer would be a significant downgrade in performance (from my Pentium M). Both in performance and power/Watt. Also, GMA900 on the EEEs is slow enough that rendering webpages is not very smooth.

Re: [dwm] Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:50:04AM -0400, voltaic wrote: I have been looking into this kind of thing myself. What I found is that getting an Atom nettop computer would be a significant downgrade in performance (from my Pentium M). Both in performance and power/Watt. Also, GMA900 on the EEEs is

Re: [dwm] Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread pmarin
Low power computers...Why not a netbook? On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: On Sat 25 Apr 2009 at 08:45:40 PDT Matthias-Christian Ott wrote: After my router (which has a Geode LX 800) had a 1/10 of the Whetstone score of my laptop, I decided to buy a

[dwm] [patch] flag for default option

2009-04-25 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
Hi list. I'm not a proficient C coder but I managed to hack this patch together. With this, you can set the starting search string to something else then an empty string. Dieter --- dmenu-4.0/dmenu.1 2009-04-18 13:50:04.0 +0200 +++ dmenu-4.0-patched/dmenu.1 2009-04-25

Re: [dwm] Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread Charlie Kester
On Sat 25 Apr 2009 at 08:45:40 PDT Matthias-Christian Ott wrote: After my router (which has a Geode LX 800) had a 1/10 of the Whetstone score of my laptop, I decided to buy a Intel Atom based system, because the PPW ratio is much higher. I currently consider buying a T7-330 Atom Barebone [1].

Re: [dwm] Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread Matthias-Christian Ott
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 07:18:45PM +0200, pmarin wrote: Low power computers...Why not a netbook? Because netbooks and laptops aren't ergonomic. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Charlie Kester corky1...@comcast.net wrote: On Sat 25 Apr 2009 at 08:45:40 PDT Matthias-Christian Ott wrote:

Re: [dwm] Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread markus schnalke
[2009-04-25 19:47] Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 07:18:45PM +0200, pmarin wrote: Low power computers...Why not a netbook? Because netbooks and laptops aren't ergonomic. Plug external input and output devices to them. ;-) meillo signature.asc

[dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi there, I discussed several stuff on IRC recently but wanted to share my thoughts here. 1. One idea is getting rid of the dwm bar altogether and to print the dwm state to stdout when it changes, however after thinking carefully about it I conclude that having the bar build-in is definately a

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Dusan
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:23:50 +0100 Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I discussed several stuff on IRC recently but wanted to share my thoughts here. 1. One idea is getting rid of the dwm bar altogether and to print the dwm state to stdout when it changes, however after

Re: [dwm] Low Power Fanless Computer

2009-04-25 Thread pmarin
I use a laptop with a 21,6 external motinor, keyboard, mouse, etc. It is like a normal computer but more silent :) and energy efficient. On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 8:11 PM, markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de wrote: [2009-04-25 19:47] Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2009/4/25 yy yiyu@gmail.com: There is a middle way solution. I just thought about it, and will probably have its drawbacks, but here it goes: keep a bar with only the tags and tile symbol and print the sel client title to stdout. This way you can use an external program (dzen) to render

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Alexander Polakov
2009/4/25, yy yiyu@gmail.com: There is a middle way solution. I just thought about it, and will probably have its drawbacks, but here it goes: keep a bar with only the tags and tile symbol and print the sel client title to stdout. This way you can use an external program (dzen) to render

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread David E. Thiel
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:29:12PM +0200, Dusan wrote: Please keep bar, that's why dwm is great out of the box. Agreed. A window manager should be usable on its own, and have sensible defaults. Ability to customize is great, but it shouldn't be depended upon to make for a decent user experience.

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Christian Garbs
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 09:37:56PM +0200, yy wrote: I don't think nobody needs unicode glyphs in their tag names or tile symbols, you wouldn't need cairo in dwm I'm still using dwm-4.7 (because I did not yet have time to port all patches to the current version), but Unicode glyphs in status

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Wu, Yue
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 07:23:50PM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote: 2. Another idea is to switch to another dependency for the rendering bit which could possibly be cairo. After all I'm nearly giving up the hope that X font handling will ever be fixed and work properly, so that relying on a pile

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Michael
Anselm R Garbe wrote: 2. Another idea is to switch to another dependency for the rendering bit which could possibly be cairo. After all I'm nearly giving up the hope that X font handling will ever be fixed and work properly, so that relying on a pile of other crap seems to become a solution.

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 4/25/09, Christian Garbs mi...@cgarbs.de wrote: work, even without pango or cairo. I have German umlauts as well as Japanese characters (eg. web page titles from Firefox). try greek or cyrillic i had trouble with those when fonts were loaded with XCreateFontSet

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread pmarin
In spanish we have a sentence for this: gunfire to kill flies On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/25/09, Christian Garbs mi...@cgarbs.de wrote: work, even without pango or cairo.  I have German umlauts as well as Japanese characters (eg. web page

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 4/25/09, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: 1. One idea is getting rid of the dwm bar altogether and to print the dwm state to stdout when it changes, however after thinking carefully about it I conclude that having the bar build-in is definately a stayer. It's so much simpler than the

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Christian Garbs
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:06:08PM +0100, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: On 4/25/09, Christian Garbs mi...@cgarbs.de wrote: work, even without pango or cairo. I have German umlauts as well as Japanese characters (eg. web page titles from Firefox). try greek or cyrillic i had trouble with those

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread bill lam
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009, Christian Garbs wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 09:37:56PM +0200, yy wrote: I don't think nobody needs unicode glyphs in their tag names or tile symbols, you wouldn't need cairo in dwm I'm still using dwm-4.7 (because I did not yet have time to port all patches to

Re: [dwm] dwm's future

2009-04-25 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
On 4/26/09, Christian Garbs mi...@cgarbs.de wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 11:06:08PM +0100, Szabolcs Nagy wrote: On 4/25/09, Christian Garbs mi...@cgarbs.de wrote: work, even without pango or cairo. I have German umlauts as well as Japanese characters (eg. web page titles from Firefox).