New mailing list. Was Re: [dwm] musca wm
I suggested a while ago to merge wmii@ and dwm@ into hackers@, both lists are rather low level, and there is much overlap, and such a single list would be more fitting for new minor side projects and for 'offtopic' discussion. Right now when one has something to say that doesn't quite fit in wmii@ or dwm@, or that could fit in both, you have to pick one list at random, or to cross post, and both options suck. Peace uriel What do you think about creating an offtopic mailing list in suckless for discussing such kind of topics, instead of using the dwm@ one like nowadays happen. I think it's been the charme of dwm@ to discuss lot's of other things, so I'd rather keep it as it is for now ;) Kind regards, Anselm
Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list
The problem is not dwm@ and wmii@, the problem is all the other stuff that is unrelated to either, the only two logical and consistent options are to either we further split the community into st@ dws@ and so on, or we merge everything, and I think that option is a no-brainer. uriel On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Premysl Hruby dfe...@gmail.com wrote: On (20/05/09 11:34), yy wrote: To: dwm mail list dwm@suckless.org From: yy yiyu@gmail.com Subject: Re: [dwm] Re: New mailing list Reply-To: dwm mail list dwm@suckless.org List-Id: dwm mail list dwm.suckless.org 2009/5/20 Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com: On 5/20/09, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: Let's have hackers@ be some meta list which sends to dwm@ and wmii@, and those subscribed to hackers will receive dwm@ and w...@. Those who are only interested in dwm@ or wmii@ specifically could just stay on dwm@ resp. w...@. That should be technically possible. dwm, wmii - hackers hackers - dwm, wmii so one sends a mail to dwm@ then it goes to hackers@ then someone replies there and the reply goes to w...@? Maybe I'm being naive, mailing lists are not my strong point. But IMO you can send the messages to the people subscribed to hackers with the corresponding FROM: field (dwm or wmii). So, if one sends a mail to dwm, you recive it as coming from dwm. Since hackers subscribed recive mail from both lists, the reply will arrive to dwm and hackers subscribers. Only if you specifically send an email to hackers it will be received by both lists (and you could, for example, change the TO: field when the discussion goes off-topic). Maybe somebody knows if I'm right or absolutely wrong. -- - yiyus || JGL . Well, or you can just simply post to both dwm@ and wmii@ :) (for example, both in to: of email). Whole this discussion is all but not suckless :) -- Premysl Anydot Hruby, http://www.redrum.cz/ - I'm a signature virus. Please add me to your signature and help me spread!
Re: [dwm] Irc channel moved
#dev On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com wrote: On 5/20/09, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: For simplicity and consistency #dwm and #wmii have moved to #hackers. Still in the oftc network. #suckless
Re: [dwm] [OT] spp
Kris of wmii fame wrote a wonderful preprocessor/template in a few lines of awk. It is used in werc and I really love it, for some minimal docs see: http://werc.cat-v.org/docs/rc_template_lang The code is included as part of the werc distribution under bin/template.awk Enjoy uriel On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 2:45 PM, pancake panc...@youterm.com wrote: Some time ago I started to write a new program to implement a simple preprocessor for doing some over-cpp preprocessing allowing me to use specials preprocessor tags inside the comments of the C code generated by Vala to add some funny hacks on top of it. I was also thinking on many other applications for the same concept, so i tried to keep the code as minimal as possible being able to work with streams or files and in the same time being able to write CGI's using the same preprocessing language. After a month or so I think is time to make it public (it was public since the beggining, but not published :P) So I would like to hear from you ideas, tips, patches, simplifications, etc.. Actually spp works great and can partially emulate spp, pod and other preprocessors using a simple plugin-system (maybe dwm can get some ideas from this plugin system). So at the current state, spp is just a simple preprocessor engine whcih allows to implement different backends for multiple syntaxes or ways to parse the input in C at compile time and then use these rules to generate new data from a set of rules and some basic transformations. Actually i'm thinking on adding templates or some better way for scripting dataj to generate for example an index for a list of items or so, but I want first to let people play with it and the suckless community is probably the best one for getting decent feedback with this kind of minimalistic stuff. hg clone http://news.nopcode.org/miau/hgi/spp/ Thanks for listening ;) --pancake
Re: [dwm] dwm's future
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Haomin Wen wen1...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I am sorry but I really hope dwm can switch to using pango. X fonts are broken and not well supported, at least in Ubuntu. I have six Chinese fonts shown in xlsfonts, but only two of them can be displayed. Then file a bug with the Ubuntu people, why should dwm be forced to depend on a huge mountain of crud just because people building distributions can't even provide working fonts? Peace uriel
Re: [dwm] dwm's future
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Mate Nagy mn...@port70.net wrote: I strongly believe that the major problem of dwm currently is not font handling (8bit ascii bitmap fonts are perfectly fine thank you); Agree 100%. Folks, if you want unicode support, develop a sane, working implementation. Exactly. I've never seen one that matches both sane and working. http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/utf There you go ;) But I agree with your point in the X11 context (although see http://plan9.us) uriel 1. Complete lack of proper xrandr and multi monitor support - this is solved in multiple tiling wms, there's no reason other than lack of interest or obscure ideology not to do this. Here's a patch to make DWM work fine on a two-monitor side-by-side setup: --- dwm.c~ 2009-02-08 06:10:49.0 -0600 +++ dwm.c 2009-02-25 18:54:17.0 -0600 @@ -1415,7 +1415,7 @@ c = nexttiled(clients); mw = mfact * ww; adjustborder(c, n == 1 ? 0 : borderpx); - resize(c, wx, wy, (n == 1 ? ww : mw) - 2 * c-bw, wh - 2 * c-bw, resizehints); + resize(c, wx, wy, mw - 2 * c-bw, wh - 2 * c-bw, resizehints); if(--n == 0) return; ...that's from dwm 5.4.1, using xrandr --output DVI-0 --right-of DVI-1. Problem solved. # Kurt H Maier
Re: [dwm] GSoC 2009, suckless.org has been rejected
I just want to point out that Plan 9/Inferno/Glendix/... are in gsoc, and if anyone is interested in any related projects they can apply to the Plan 9 organization. For more info see http://gsoc.cat-v.org/ and for some project suggestions see http://gsoc.cat-v.org/ideas/ Hurry up, the deadline for application is in a few days. Peace uriel On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:42 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I'm sorry to announce that we didn't make it this time. I want to thank all people involved in the preparations for their efforts. Hopefully, I will have a private chat tomorrow with Leslie to hear about the reasons and what we can do better the next time. The GSoC page is moved to http://suckless.org/common/project_ideas I will add an auto-redirection later today (currently it's an href)... Kind regards, --Anselm
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
Nope. uriel On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/3/13 Uriel urie...@gmail.com: I run http://cat-v.org on xen, and even really long pages like http://ninetimes.cat-v.org take a couple of seconds to load. Something was wrong with suckless.org, sometimes a small page could take ten seconds, it is better now but still on the slow side of things. I guess you use ipv6? Kind regards, --Anselm
Re: [dwm] Wiki date format
Well, that should be corrected when the frontpage is converted to a proper werc feed, that looks like this: http://ninetimes.cat-v.org/ uriel On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 9:06 AM, markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de wrote: [2009-03-10 22:57] Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com He's probably talking about the front page, screenshot here: http://bayimg.com/image/caombaabd.jpg correct. meillo -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFJt3EO6aFpZ+X9qBIRAuyUAJ0ZUisKmAR/NERwDWGUEe8ZRQOwYwCeOV3V 8e5GPmTkuzldlhKkBowWabM= =IYNf -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [dwm] suckless.org stylesheet glitch
Good point, probably the werc stylesheet should be split and reorganized to avoid this kind of issues, I will think about it. Also, www.suckless.org is *SLOW* to the point of being unusable, and i'm sure that is not werc's fault because http://cat-v.org and many other werc sites are quite fast. uriel On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 12:31 AM, twfb twf...@googlemail.com wrote: Greetings, suckless.org currently links to two stylesheets /pub/style/style.css and /_werc/pub/style.css both are active for media screen. The former stylesheet (/pub) uses among other things orange background for the midHeader class. This results in a split-second display of a different colour scheme (werc default?) as the stylesheets load. Posting to d...@suckless as w...@suckless was subscriber only. Regards -- TWFB - PGP: D7A420B3
Re: [dwm] wiki location changed
Good work Anselm! And anyone interested in werc, see: http://werc.cat-v.org uriel P.S.: Can you make http://suckless.org work properly and http://www.suckless.org redirect to it? (Or the other way around if you really prefer it that way, although I prefer no www.) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, those of you who contributed to the wiki in the past, please note that the new URL of the wiki repository (which has to be cloned freshly again) is as follows: hg clone http://sandbox.suckless.org/hg/sites The online preview wiki is broken atm and will be back up and running again on http://sandbox.suckless.org shortly. As you will notice the web site http://www.suckless.org has been migrated to werc. Please bare in mind that the migration work is still ongoing, though any contributions to the wiki are welcome (mails to w...@suckless.org are issued for changes from this location now). Cheers, --Anselm
Re: [dwm] minimal communication
Bitlbee is the only remotely sane jabber client i know of uriel On 3/7/09, Scytrin dai Kinthra scyt...@gmail.com wrote: I'm slowly migrating from irssi to sic for IRC conversations, setting up up a hotkey in dwm to popup dmenu, which feeds into sic. sic will be displayed in either the root window or a terminal. I'm still figuring out the IPC for this setup to work sanely. My question however, is anyone familiar with a jabber client similar to sic? I've looked at freetalk and mcabber. freetalk seems more CLI oriented, but I doesn't seem that piping friendly to me. mcabber uses ncurses as an interface, but already has a few howtos on sending notifications and data to text files, which means I can get notifications similar to sic. But I'd have to utilize the application itself rather than a dmenu pipe. Anyone? -- stadik.net
