Thanks for all the valueable input so far in this thread.
I think here are the action points:
1) I plan to separate the bar stuff code-wise into two portions -- the
tag bar with tags and layout info, and the title/status bar, but
things will stay as they are from a user perspective, it's just
On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 19:23:50 +0100
Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi there,
I discussed several stuff on IRC recently but wanted to share my
thoughts here.
1. One idea is getting rid of the dwm bar altogether and to print the
dwm state to stdout when it changes, however after
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:44:18 -0300
Leandro Chescotta leandro.chesco...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, someone start this earlier,
*Wra!thhttp://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=24472in archlinux
forums
* here http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=70902 hope the best
to this project! :)
Hi there !
2009/4/27, Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com:
Thanks for all the valueable input so far in this thread.
I think here are the action points:
1) I plan to separate the bar stuff code-wise into two portions -- the
tag bar with tags and layout info, and the title/status bar, but
2009/4/27 Preben Randhol rand...@pvv.org:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:11:03 +0100
Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote:
So there are only three ways:
- stick with what we got (don't care if some langs look ugly)
- use pango and/or cairo or something like that
- invest some effort into a new
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:11:50 +0200
Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com wrote:
why would one post an url to a web shop when the book itself has more
informative resource locators: an official website, publisher, author
names, isbn number, common abbrev, wikipedia entry, google.. ?
Because you
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 11:10:47 +0100
Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/4/27 Preben Randhol rand...@pvv.org:
What about xft? Wasn't there a patch for 4.7 (can't find it
anymore). I don't know much about the font systems.
One option, though quite half hearted in my opinion.
I
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 11:11:03 +0100
Anselm R Garbe garb...@gmail.com wrote:
So there are only three ways:
- stick with what we got (don't care if some langs look ugly)
- use pango and/or cairo or something like that
- invest some effort into a new font rendering lib (seems to be a hard
job,
On 4/27/09, Preben Randhol rand...@pvv.org wrote:
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:44:18 -0300
Leandro Chescotta leandro.chesco...@gmail.com wrote:
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But I can recommend The C Programming Language
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 10:49:55 -0500
Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote:
I keep hoping to
see dwm go into a 'steady state' where the only patches are to
maintain compatibility with latest x.org, etc., but instead every time
it seems 'done' we shoot forward into crazy-ass ideas like
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:47:19AM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote:
Personally I would like to have one dwm as is, and one gdwm (or some
better name) with more bells and whistles and dependencies.
http://wmii.suckless.org/
Or is Wmii dead in the water?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:05:11PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote:
What about xft? Wasn't there a patch for 4.7 (can't find it anymore).
I don't know much about the font systems.
I've been using this patch for quite some time with no issues. If anyone
wants to see the implementation for reference,
But here is the URL to wikipedia if you prefer that:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language)
He probably means this page: http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cbook/
But I guess his point was that you should have provided that standard
information (copied from above web page):
The C
* David E. Thiel l...@redundancy.redundancy.org [2009-04-25 13:27:51 -0701]:
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 08:29:12PM +0200, Dusan wrote:
Please keep bar, that's why dwm is great out of the box.
Agreed. A window manager should be usable on its own, and have sensible
defaults. Ability to
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:35:20AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
- Mathematica (Version?)
7 breaks on the help window - it doesn't get keyboard focus, mouse focus
still works. First the layout gets applied to it, then the other windows
move back below it.
I'm pretty sure that 6 did not have this
I want to feed the mailing with some more words about this topic...
I don't really care about the font rendering, because I just use title bar
to see what's going on the window (like for large builds or browser's
page titles, ..) And I dont really read contents in chineese or russian,
so i'm
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Preben Ran
well, what is the purpose of a stausbar? It is a minority of the
worlds population that adheres to 7-bit ASCII.
Which just makes it more mysterious that nobody has fixed xlib font rendering.
or that one just patch dwm for pango like one need to do
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:51:24 +0200
Martin Oppegaard mar...@deathaven.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:47:19AM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote:
Personally I would like to have one dwm as is, and one gdwm (or some
better name) with more bells and whistles and dependencies.
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:12:12 +0200
hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote:
Forums are a disease, but they are successful, because people are
always glad about the neat, animated smiley's, there are proudly
occupied moderators, and a lot of cool features for the administrator
to play with. Mathml
I'm sorry, this was related to Szabolcs' comment:
why would one post ideas, questions,.. to some random web forum when
there is a dedicated mailing list (and irc channel) for the given
topic?
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Preben Randhol rand...@pvv.org wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:12:12
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:35:20AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
Thanks for all the valueable input so far in this thread.
I think here are the action points:
1) I plan to separate the bar stuff code-wise into two portions -- the
tag bar with tags and layout info, and the title/status bar,
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:47:33PM +0200, Matthias-Christian Ott wrote:
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:35:20AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
That's mainly proprietary software. dwm shouldn't support that kind of
software, but instead expose their bare brokenness to the user. Maybe users
will
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org wrote:
Could you please briefly explain why you are opposed to XRandR. It seems
pretty common and usable.
Not only that, xinerama is going to be entirely supplanted by xrandr.
Developing for xinerama is a dead end.
On Mon,
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:50:49PM +0200, Valentin wrote:
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:47:33PM +0200, Matthias-Christian Ott wrote:
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:35:20AM +0100, Anselm R Garbe wrote:
That's mainly proprietary software. dwm shouldn't support that kind of
software, but instead
Except some of us don't have a choice and have to use this for their
work or at uni...
Well, what about GNU Octave? Mathematica seems to have become as much a
disease as Fortran was in last decades.
I once tried to explain to my professor if I could use Octave instead
of Matlab but he
Kurt H Maier dixit (2009-04-27, 13:54):
$subject is broken, therefore we must bloat up dwm to work around it
is bad reasoning, even if $subject is x11 font rendering or some
expensive app my school is forcing on me
The only difference is that you *have* to use X11 font rendering while
you do
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 12:05:57PM -0700, Amit Uttamchandani wrote:
Except some of us don't have a choice and have to use this for their
work or at uni...
Well, what about GNU Octave? Mathematica seems to have become as much a
disease as Fortran was in last decades.
I once tried
Don't be a bigot, it just makes you look like a moron too. Free Software
is about choice, forcing people to use an app just because you use it is
pretty stupid and annoying and just gives people a negative association
with it. Let people make their own choices. Last I checked it was very
easy to
[ pretty off topic ]
Three days off-line and now ... *eek* ... 75 new messages.
It was interesting to read all those opinions and comments. I think it
was even fun, because I'm not directly affected ... not anymore. I
already found what I was looking for, more than a year ago. dwm then
was
When I was in the university I had to use matlab. Proffessors told me
that I can use the windows boxes in place, but for personal reasons
(time and so) I proposed them to use the telnet interface and use it
remotely.
It happened that their license didn't allowed them to export the
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 06:57:13PM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote:
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 13:51:24 +0200
Martin Oppegaard mar...@deathaven.com wrote:
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 11:47:19AM +0200, Preben Randhol wrote:
Personally I would like to have one dwm as is, and one gdwm (or some
better
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 04:05:36PM -0400, Jeremy Jay wrote:
Don't be a bigot, it just makes you look like a moron too. Free Software
Well, you are a moron if you get bad marks, because you didn't hand in your
papers, because you refuse to use proprietary software: You don't change
anything and
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:58:31PM +0200, pancake wrote:
When I was in the university I had to use matlab. Proffessors told me
that I can use the windows boxes in place, but for personal reasons
(time and so) I proposed them to use the telnet interface and use it
remotely.
It happened
I thought you mentioned stopping in the email you sent before this
one? (Or was that only applicble to other people?)
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:30 PM, Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org wrote:
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 10:58:31PM +0200, pancake wrote:
When I was in the university I had to use
2009/4/27 Matthias-Christian Ott o...@mirix.org:
At least you didn't loose your dignity, carried out your principles and
proofed that Free Software is as powerful as an expensive proprietary
software.
But it is not always possible. I can give you a (quite long) list of
software that doesn't
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 22:54:35 +0200
markus schnalke mei...@marmaro.de wrote:
Important is IMO to define a clear goal and to follow a straight path
to this goal. This is not only for the competition with other WMs but
also for keeping the software clear.
Yes, I wanted at one point to try out
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 08:47:33PM +0200, Matthias-Christian Ott wrote:
That's mainly proprietary software. dwm shouldn't support that kind of
software, but instead expose their bare brokenness to the user. Maybe users
will realise then that proprietary software is not worth using, because you
On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 04:05:36PM -0400, Jeremy Jay wrote:
Don't be a bigot, it just makes you look like a moron too. Free Software
is about choice, forcing people to use an app just because you use it is
pretty stupid and annoying and just gives people a negative association
with it. Let
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Haomin Wen wen1...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am sorry but I really hope dwm can switch to using pango.
X fonts are broken and not well supported, at least in Ubuntu. I have six
Chinese fonts shown in xlsfonts, but only two of them can be displayed.
Then file
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Kurt H Maier karmaf...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 10:01 AM, Mate Nagy mn...@port70.net wrote:
I strongly believe that the major problem of dwm currently is
not font handling (8bit ascii bitmap fonts are perfectly fine thank
you);
Agree 100%.
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