Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
On Thu, 14 May 2009 21:17:19 +0200 Rickard Gustafsson rick...@allyourbase.se wrote: After trying the concept for about a week I find it very irritating as soon as you have more than three clients. It works if all you do with your computer is browsing and IRC. I think a better concept for a very minimalistic window manager would be some thing like 2wm. or dwm -- Preben Randhol http://wee-free-lore.blogspot.com/
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
I could not stop thinking of this concept since I read this post. Mostley because I have fooled around with ratpoison a bit the last weeks. So tonight I sat down and tried to realise some of the ideas with dwm-5.5 as foundation. It is almost only cut'n'paste from the source and removing some parts. I have kept mwfac because I think i maybe nice to have a layout where the screen is split into two sections (just realised I should have kept zoom() then). Floating layout is still there because I think it is nice to be able to handle floats and apps like gimp in a flexible fashion. Client numbering is a bit screwed up to. This because clients are added to the list of clients in a fifo fashion and I have not figured out how to change this behavior. Do I need to change booth attach and attachstack? And I hope I have not screwed up in some licensing manner. Here it is I some one would like to check it out. http://web.student.chalmers.se/~rickardg/mwm-0.0.tar.gz Regards Rickard Gustafsson On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 9:11 PM, Leandro Chescotta leandro.chesco...@gmail.com wrote: minimal/minimum/monocle window manager, this come to my head today, when i meet antiwm http://sourceforge.net/projects/antiwm this is like dwm, but with no tags, no bottom bar, no layouts, more like ratpoison, the thing is that i tryed ratpoison and antiwm, and it lacks a couple of things, so, i see that suckless have wmii, stripping down there is dwm, and why not a smaller one like a suckless antiwm... mwm! :) this are the things i think mwm need... - no tags, only a list of opened windows, that you can cycle with one keybinding or Alt+number - no bottom bar, just the window list that you can show/hide - no layouts, only a monocle-like one, and a floating layer for mplayer/feh/gimp - lol, an arch linux AUR package with the config.h ready to customize the few font/colors/keybindings/apps maybe this is not worthy, but i like the idea, maybe you too, maybe is like getting dwm code and strip it down a little, only, maybe not...
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:44:18 -0300 Leandro Chescotta leandro.chesco...@gmail.com wrote: Well, someone start this earlier, *Wra!thhttp://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=24472in archlinux forums * here http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=70902 hope the best to this project! :) actually it's name is Most Minimal Window Manager (MMWM) lol and it something in between dwm and antiwm, like antiwm with more features, like... Minimalism can be attractive, but it isn't productive. Don't see any need for derailing the dwm development to something more minimalistic. But I can recommend The C Programming Language http://www.amazon.co.uk/C-Programming-Language-2nd/dp/0131103628/ref=pd_sim_b_1 if you want to learn C programming. Best wishes Preben
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 12:11:50 +0200 Szabolcs Nagy nszabo...@gmail.com wrote: why would one post an url to a web shop when the book itself has more informative resource locators: an official website, publisher, author names, isbn number, common abbrev, wikipedia entry, google.. ? Because you can find all the info you want from the link and go to whatever bookshop you want and buy it. Besides you find reviews there. You even know how the cover of the book looks like. But here is the URL to wikipedia if you prefer that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language) Google sucks. Preben
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
On 4/27/09, Preben Randhol rand...@pvv.org wrote: On Sun, 26 Apr 2009 18:44:18 -0300 Leandro Chescotta leandro.chesco...@gmail.com wrote: *Wra!thhttp://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=24472in archlinux forums But I can recommend The C Programming Language http://www.amazon.co.uk/C-Programming-Language-2nd/dp/0131103628/ref=pd_sim_b_1 is this a new trend that people reference improper sources and discuss topics in unrelated forums? if the information has a clear and obvious source then why look for it somewhere else.. why would one post ideas, questions,.. to some random web forum when there is a dedicated mailing list (and irc channel) for the given topic? why would one post an url to a web shop when the book itself has more informative resource locators: an official website, publisher, author names, isbn number, common abbrev, wikipedia entry, google.. ? maybe i shouldn't get annoyd by this..
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
But here is the URL to wikipedia if you prefer that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C_(programming_language) He probably means this page: http://cm.bell-labs.com/cm/cs/cbook/ But I guess his point was that you should have provided that standard information (copied from above web page): The C Programming Language, Second Edition by Brian W. Kernighan and Dennis M. Ritchie. Prentice Hall, Inc., 1988. ISBN 0-13-110362-8 (paperback), 0-13-110370-9 (hardback). Forums are a disease, but they are successful, because people are always glad about the neat, animated smiley's, there are proudly occupied moderators, and a lot of cool features for the administrator to play with. Mathml support, flash games and reading private messages comes to mind. These people definitely have too much time, and probably patience, and are thus more friendly to newbies. They almost always like what they are doing and seldom get upset about their new and only friends. Does that make sense?
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:12:12 +0200 hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: Forums are a disease, but they are successful, because people are always glad about the neat, animated smiley's, there are proudly occupied moderators, and a lot of cool features for the administrator to play with. Mathml support, flash games and reading private messages comes to mind. These people definitely have too much time, and probably patience, and are thus more friendly to newbies. They almost always like what they are doing and seldom get upset about their new and only friends. Does that make sense? Sorry, I don't get the relevance.
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
I'm sorry, this was related to Szabolcs' comment: why would one post ideas, questions,.. to some random web forum when there is a dedicated mailing list (and irc channel) for the given topic? On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 7:07 PM, Preben Randhol rand...@pvv.org wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 15:12:12 +0200 hiro 23h...@googlemail.com wrote: Forums are a disease, but they are successful, because people are always glad about the neat, animated smiley's, there are proudly occupied moderators, and a lot of cool features for the administrator to play with. Mathml support, flash games and reading private messages comes to mind. These people definitely have too much time, and probably patience, and are thus more friendly to newbies. They almost always like what they are doing and seldom get upset about their new and only friends. Does that make sense? Sorry, I don't get the relevance.
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
2009/4/26 Leandro Chescotta leandro.chesco...@gmail.com: - no tags, only a list of opened windows, that you can cycle with one keybinding or Alt+number - no bottom bar, just the window list that you can show/hide - no layouts, only a monocle-like one, and a floating layer for mplayer/feh/gimp - lol, an arch linux AUR package with the config.h ready to customize the few font/colors/keybindings/apps you could just run dwm without the bar, with only one tag, and with only the monocle layout. -- - yiyus || JGL .
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 04:11:25PM -0300, Leandro Chescotta wrote: minimal/minimum/monocle window manager, this come to my head today, when i meet antiwm http://sourceforge.net/projects/antiwm this is like dwm, but with no tags, no bottom bar, no layouts, more like ratpoison, the thing is that i tryed ratpoison and antiwm, and it lacks a couple of things, so, i see that suckless have wmii, stripping down there is dwm, and why not a smaller one like a suckless antiwm... mwm! :) this are the things i think mwm need... - no tags, only a list of opened windows, that you can cycle with one keybinding or Alt+number - no bottom bar, just the window list that you can show/hide - no layouts, only a monocle-like one, and a floating layer for mplayer/feh/gimp - lol, an arch linux AUR package with the config.h ready to customize the few font/colors/keybindings/apps Despite the fact that dwm already supports this, I like the idea. It should be quite usable on netbooks and other computers with small screen where monocle is the only option. maybe this is not worthy, but i like the idea, maybe you too, maybe is like getting dwm code and strip it down a little, only, maybe not... You could probably through away much of dwm's code then. Let us know when you release mwm. Regards, Matthias-Christian
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
mmm yes i can, but i was thinking that maybe we can even strip even down dwm code, i don't know a lot about programming (actually very little), so maybe im not the chosen one to do this, i think that the idea is worth the discussion at least On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:32 PM, yy yiyu@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 Leandro Chescotta leandro.chesco...@gmail.com: - no tags, only a list of opened windows, that you can cycle with one keybinding or Alt+number - no bottom bar, just the window list that you can show/hide - no layouts, only a monocle-like one, and a floating layer for mplayer/feh/gimp - lol, an arch linux AUR package with the config.h ready to customize the few font/colors/keybindings/apps you could just run dwm without the bar, with only one tag, and with only the monocle layout. -- - yiyus || JGL . -- - http://aleyscha.spaces.live.com/ El lugar mas peligroso de todos es el cielo... En el, cada pensamiento se hace realidad... sea bueno o malo... creas tu paraiso o tu infierno
Re: [dwm] [idea] mwm - minimal/minimun/monocle window manager
Well, someone start this earlier, *Wra!thhttp://bbs.archlinux.org/profile.php?id=24472in archlinux forums * here http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=70902 hope the best to this project! :) actually it's name is Most Minimal Window Manager (MMWM) lol and it something in between dwm and antiwm, like antiwm with more features, like... So far it has keys to: - pop a new terminal - kill selected window - cycle through windows - pop a launcher menu (using dmenu by default) - show a list of windows (working, but needs some enhancement) Configurable options: - launcher menu to run - terminal to run - font - window list fg/bg color/selected window fg color/ - screen padding(how much space to leave unmanaged on all sides of the screen - you can see a 16 pixel gap on top of the screenie) - window list position (one of the four corners) On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 6:34 PM, Leandro Chescotta leandro.chesco...@gmail.com wrote: mmm yes i can, but i was thinking that maybe we can even strip even down dwm code, i don't know a lot about programming (actually very little), so maybe im not the chosen one to do this, i think that the idea is worth the discussion at least On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:32 PM, yy yiyu@gmail.com wrote: 2009/4/26 Leandro Chescotta leandro.chesco...@gmail.com: - no tags, only a list of opened windows, that you can cycle with one keybinding or Alt+number - no bottom bar, just the window list that you can show/hide - no layouts, only a monocle-like one, and a floating layer for mplayer/feh/gimp - lol, an arch linux AUR package with the config.h ready to customize the few font/colors/keybindings/apps you could just run dwm without the bar, with only one tag, and with only the monocle layout. -- - yiyus || JGL . -- - http://aleyscha.spaces.live.com/ El lugar mas peligroso de todos es el cielo... En el, cada pensamiento se hace realidad... sea bueno o malo... creas tu paraiso o tu infierno -- - http://aleyscha.spaces.live.com/ El lugar mas peligroso de todos es el cielo... En el, cada pensamiento se hace realidad... sea bueno o malo... creas tu paraiso o tu infierno
