Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] ham DXpeditions also operating 11m?

2002-12-04 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
(Reply moved to DX Chat... as per the reflector rules on discussions, after all...) I wonder how much of a problem this really is. Has anyone actually heard, with their own ears, the DXpeditions operating Freeband or otherwise, shall we say, improperly? Keep in mind what just happened with

[DX-CHAT] CB and Freebanding

2002-12-04 Thread John Warren
There's an important distinction between CB and Freebanding. In the USA, and many other countries, there is a 100% legal Citizens Band. The frequencies, power limit, etc., are all defined, and although not everyone stays within those limits, many do. Numerous hams, including some quite

[DX-CHAT] Re:: Freeband / CB, etc.

2002-12-04 Thread Kent Miller
I am one of the old farts that remembers when 11 meters was a ham band; back before 1958-59 when this travesty called CB came about. In fact, I used to use the band and made many enjoyable contacts there; my B W 5100' s still have the 11 meter band marked on the vfo. For whatever reason, the

Re: [DX-CHAT] Freebanding

2002-12-04 Thread Zack Widup
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, W0YG Charlie Summers wrote: I wonder how many of you folks have seen the excessive amount of illegal gear being posted on eBay in the ham section. I am sure a major amount of that type of gear goes through that auction house. I would say 5-15 items a day are posted. I

[DX-CHAT] The cesspool

2002-12-04 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) Watson
It became a cesspool of illegality right from the start and soon began its process of causing the general public to think of CB and ham radio as one and the same, since most people had no knowledge of the difference between the two. The advent of CB was the first giant step in the bastardization

Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] ham DXpeditions also operating 11m?

2002-12-04 Thread Zack Widup
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Kelly Jones wrote: On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Ron Notarius WN3VAW wrote: Oh, and Kelly (KE9KD) -- I haven't looked, but if the Sugar Delta guys have indeed swiped your content, I hope you know a good lawyer who can draft a cease and desist or else letter. Theft like that is

Re: [DX-CHAT] Ham DXpeditions also operating 11m?

2002-12-04 Thread W0YG Charlie Summers
Ain't that wonderful, getting an award for working an illegal operation. But wait a minute, didn't the boys on H40 say it was legal to operate in that segment of the band out there? Maybe it is legal in other parts of the world too? But wait a moment again, did W9WNV or UB5RR really not go to

Re: [DX-CHAT] Ham DXpeditions also operating 11m?

2002-12-04 Thread harris ruben
Now THERE'S a good idea! Maybe those clowns will accept my P5RS7 card and the first Scarborough trip?? Maybe I could make #1 by working 'em all in reverse order of difficulty. N2ERN Ain't that wonderful, getting an award for working an illegal operation. But wait a minute, didn't the boys on

[DX-CHAT] Isn't that a Lynyrd Synyrd song, or am I thinking of FreeBIRD?

2002-12-04 Thread Ron Notarius WN3VAW
Combining several replies into one: Sugar Delta: Well, considering that they're dishonest enough to steal content from other people's web sites, and considering that the CY0MM crew claimed it was a misunderstanding that led to SD claiming freeband activity from CY0 during the DXpedition, why

Re: [DX-CHAT]

2002-12-04 Thread k1my
Bill, Cannot disagree with you more. Aside from the dumbing down of the hobby that has taken place over the last 10 - 15 years, what makes you think that these individuals who currently are breaking the law will not bring their I don't care about authority attitude to our hobby. I have been a ham

Re: [DX-CHAT] Isn't that a Lynyrd Synyrd song, or am I thinking of FreeBIRD?

2002-12-04 Thread Norm Gertz
Ron wrote: Other FB activity: Guantanamo Bay? We have some military personnel breaking the law? Really? Should not happen on a military base..I will see that the base Comm Officer is advised and hope that corrective measures are taken as required. 73 NormK1AA

[DX-CHAT] Freeband = Napster?

2002-12-04 Thread William Hein, AA6TT
Bruce: You make a good point. However, I still like my 'outreach' idea and I strongly support the movement to make '10.5 meters' a licensed amateur band. The whole world has been dumbed down. Based on the resumes I review at my job, I don't think the ability to compose a coherent paragraph is

Re: [DX-CHAT] Freebanders

2002-12-04 Thread Kevin vk2ce
Are we to assume from this comment and attitude that because theUSA has a problem with CB/Freebanders or whatever you want to call them, that the rest of the DX world should be denied the chance to work DXCC because the USA people want to disqualify an expedition, which may not even be

Re: [DX-CHAT] [DX-NEWS] ham DXpeditions also operating 11m?

2002-12-04 Thread John E Bastin, K8AJS
At 10:29 AM -0500 12/4/02, Ron St.Laurent ND5S wrote: And here many of us sit and wait for our Federal Government to allow Desecheo to come on the air and an 11 meter DXpedition landed without permission and operated this past summer. I found their website when I did a Yahoo search on Desecheo

Re: [DX-CHAT] Isn't that a Lynyrd Synyrd song, or am I thinking ofFreeBIRD?

2002-12-04 Thread Zack Widup
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, Norm Gertz wrote: Ron wrote: Other FB activity: Guantanamo Bay? We have some military personnel breaking the law? Really? Should not happen on a military base..I will see that the base Comm Officer is advised and hope that corrective measures are taken as

Re: [DX-CHAT] ham DXpeditions also operating 11m?

2002-12-04 Thread Zack Widup
On Wed, 4 Dec 2002, John E Bastin, K8AJS wrote: At 11:16 AM -0600 12/4/02, Zack Widup wrote: I really hope they don't hurt our chances for an operation there. I still need that one! There's still hope. Don Miller has his license again. Keep the faith...:-) 73, I wonder when Don