[DX-CHAT] Special Call #SRT
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Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI
Doubtful. He way way too loud here. Also, would they put such a poor op on CW? 73, Barry WC7N wrote: Boy I hope that guy on 20 CW is for real as I got him right off... Still booming in here on the southern Oregon coast... Boy sure hope he is for real as need them on CW. Rod WC7N Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] DX operating
Hi Folks, I can't comment on the current pileups because my rig is packed up for a DXpedition, But- I can't help having some thoughts. Listening splits- Is the DX station asking the pileup to call in a 30 KHz split? Or is he just saying "up", and rather than trying to figure out the listening frequency and call there many guys are just going farther and farther up trying to find a "clear" spot to camp on because they don't have the skill or whatever to listen, and expect to count on the loudness of their signal to be stumbled upon? Yes, the DX should be more specific regarding his listening range, but the DX community has at least an equal obligation to develop some skill and follow his listening pattern, rather than spread farther and farther trying to be in the clear. Continuous callers- In some parts of the world is this perhaps a cultural thing? I never understood callers from a particular country until someone told me a story regarding someone from that country who moved to the US. I guess the person had a very hard time adjusting because here a person has to wait in line and take his turn. In the old country, rather than have a line, whoever was loudest, most obnoxious, and most persistent got service at the counter. Can a DX operator change something this ingrained by refusing to take callers out of turn? Also, there are a number of stations in any pileup who are calling but really don't hear the DX, or not well enough to know even if they are acknowledged. Why do they do this? Who knows. But, if you've ever been on a DXpedition you know it happens. They can be loud to the DX, because they are using high power, but when the DX acknowledges them they don't respond. This could account for some of the guys who continue to call while the Dx is transmitting, etc. It is a competition- While that is true, I don't think it should be a competition to be won by knocking the other guy down. As has been mentioned many times, when a DX station acknowledges someone, and other DXers keep calling hoping to cover him up and get taken instead, they are hurting themselves as much as the other guy. Unless, of course the DX lets the tactic work. While blacklisting may not happen in the sense of identifying someone in the pileup or publishing his call on the internet, believe me if someone continues to call me over other stations, while I am transmitting, etc. I will move the dial on through the pileup to another spot. If the station then finds the new frequency it is easy to ignore him and take others. If not, move on again. Partial calls- In theory the best idea is to get a partial call and pursue it until the contact is completed. Often, after making identification of a partial call, the station does not respond, or is not workable for a number of reasons. Perhaps propagation changed. Perhaps he didn't hear the DX acknowledgement because of people transmitting on the DX frequency, perhaps he already moved on to try a different TX frequency, perhaps the DX heard 2 signals mixing together and it was not a valid partial. The easiest thing to do is work the strong guy who has continued to call. The best thing to do is to call qrz, and not reward the guy who didn't stand by. It is easy to be critical of Dxpedition operators from the perspective of listening from home. Believe me, a pileup does not sound the same on the DX side. From home, when all beams are not pointed at you, it is easy to listen to the pileup and pick out strong stations who have the best propagation to your location. From the Dx station it often sounds like simply a loud roar, with nothing standing out. When you do get a partial it can actually be part of two callsigns. Certain bands are very bad, like 40 meters, where you can have callers from Europe, USA and the rest of NA, Central and South America, and Africa all at the same time. When you do pull an identification out of the mess, which sounded about 22, the guy is 40 over 9 when he is the only one transmitting. During the CY9DH operation I was working with VE9DH on 80 Meters. We had no trouble working the guys in Maine and NE US. But, we knew there were guys in the deep south and SW, etc. who needed us but would never get through the NE curtain. So we did call areas. Even then, when we asked for fives, for example all we could hear was a low rumble, not even a single letter could be made out. So Jim asked for stations with 5 in the call whose suffix started with A. When we could hear no more we went to B, etc. This was painfully slow, and many guys likely gave up and went away, but those that really wanted the contact and could be heard got a contact. The guys who called out of turn were politely told- "I'm sorry, you're suffix doesn't start with A, please call later when we get to your letter". I would probably never have the patient to this if I wasn't logging for Jim, and I don't think it would work with Europe, you would be telling every single contact they weren't in the log because they
Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI
If that was the one on 14.045 listening 20 - 40 kHz up the signals came from the right direction. He worked USA and later only JA, not one single European station... I don't think there are any better CW-operators at KH8SI, it was real slow and he had problems getting the callsigns correct. I have to wait for a real DX-pedition with better operators! 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WC7N [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dx-Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI Doubtful. He way way too loud here. Also, would they put such a poor op on CW? 73, Barry WC7N wrote: Boy I hope that guy on 20 CW is for real as I got him right off... Still booming in here on the southern Oregon coast... Boy sure hope he is for real as need them on CW. Rod WC7N Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI
Yes, there are better CW operators on the Swain's Island DXpedition but it seems to be a mystery as to why they don't seem to be operating. K1ER can handle anything on a key but all I have heard him on is phone. Since I am not there, I cannot comment on much from that end, instead just try to make the best of it. John is on 75 phone as I write this. This is JA1BK's show. He probably footed the bill for the whole DXpedition. He is allowed to call the shots! Hopefully we all try to make the best of it. 73, Charlie, W0YG.. - Original Message - From: Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WC7N [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dx-Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:05 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI If that was the one on 14.045 listening 20 - 40 kHz up the signals came from the right direction. He worked USA and later only JA, not one single European station... I don't think there are any better CW-operators at KH8SI, it was real slow and he had problems getting the callsigns correct. I have to wait for a real DX-pedition with better operators! 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: WC7N [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dx-Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI Doubtful. He way way too loud here. Also, would they put such a poor op on CW? 73, Barry WC7N wrote: Boy I hope that guy on 20 CW is for real as I got him right off... Still booming in here on the southern Oregon coast... Boy sure hope he is for real as need them on CW. Rod WC7N Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Special Call #SRT
On Mon, 31 Jul 2006, Oreste IZ8EDJ wrote: 3rd Strange Radio Birthday, to remember when the Strange Radio Team has been founded. From August 2 to 10, there will be active this Special Call: I've been curious about this - what is strange, the radio or the team? And what's strange about it? :-) 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers?
Excellent SSB OP this morning on 3798/3804) --- he heard AC7 and kept beating back the pileup until he heard AC7Z, then AC7ZG, then kept beating back the pileup until he completed the QSO. Many Many times Standby Standby Standby...AC7 ONLY AC7 ONLY. After this, lots of JA's and 6's calling over the 7's (he was calling 7's only) (and the op on CW 30m last night was superb -- he had a high runrate, and was worked quickly. Wish he would move to 20m tonight to give that pileup a chance). 73 Don AC7ZG -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 2:57 PM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] How do we make better DXers? A few made a good point, it is up to the DX station to control the pileup. I didn't want to go down that path. But a couple of points to keep in mind: - We (the callers) are the many, they (the DXpedition operators) are the few. They are the ones who have invested the time and money in getting there and operating. We should be responsible enough to behave ourselves. Ease the burden on the few. - Frustration is caused by the belief that you will not work the DX station. Frustration breeds desperation. Imagine how much less frustration there would be if the out-of-turn callers just kept quiet and let the DX operator work someone in the clear. The rate will go up, as will the hope of everyone else in the pileup. Just because WX9QRO calls overtop of everyone, and in frustration and/or desperation, the DX operator works him to get him out of the way does NOT make it right, and does NOT mean that we have to follow that example. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI
Charlie, I heard you work them on 30 this morning...congrats. There has been a lot of criticism about the KH8SI team but I am sure they are doing their best under the present conditions. Yes, I've heard them working hundreds of JA's but after just listening to the 30 meter pileup this morning I have a better understanding of why. The op (no idea who it was) was working one JA after the other, with full calls each exchange...very, very seldom did he have to say JA4K?? or the like. I heard him two or three times trying to work a USA station...the one that stands out in my mind was when he said W2? 2 or 3 times then he asked K9? 2 or 3 times...the pileup continued at full bore with no one cooperating. He started back with JA stations after several unsuccessful attempts to work NA, again working full calls from JA. I've not heard them with a decent signal on any band so I'm guessing their antenna systems are not the best, which coupled with poor conditions makes it tough. It was interesting to note this morning that the FO/KM9D was S9 while the KH8 was barely S4-5..on 30 meters. If we don't work them on this trip, I would bet that someone with a well planned DXpedition will soon be visiting Swaines and it will be quickly removed from many of our need lists. Good luck to alllets just give them the benefit of the doubt. 73 Tony, W4FOA - Original Message - From: Charlie, W0YG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WC7N [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Dx-Chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 7:38 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI Yes, there are better CW operators on the Swain's Island DXpedition but it seems to be a mystery as to why they don't seem to be operating. K1ER can handle anything on a key but all I have heard him on is phone. Since I am not there, I cannot comment on much from that end, instead just try to make the best of it. John is on 75 phone as I write this. This is JA1BK's show. He probably footed the bill for the whole DXpedition. He is allowed to call the shots! Hopefully we all try to make the best of it. 73, Charlie, W0YG.. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] [dx-chat] Bencher dust cover
Thanks to everybody for the information I appreciate it. Rod WC7N Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI
- Original Message - From: Tony Martin W4FOA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-list] KH8SI Charlie, I heard you work them on 30 this morning...congrats. There has been a lot of criticism about the KH8SI team but I am sure they are doing their best under the present conditions. Yes, I've heard them working hundreds of JA's but after just listening to the 30 meter pileup this morning I have a better understanding of why. The op (no idea who it was) was working one JA after the other, with full calls each exchange...very, very seldom did he have to say JA4K?? or the like. I heard him two or three times trying to work a USA station...the one that stands out in my mind was when he said W2? 2 or 3 times then he asked K9? 2 or 3 times...the pileup continued at full bore with no one cooperating. He started back with JA stations after several unsuccessful attempts to work NA, again working full calls from JA. I've not heard them with a decent signal on any band so I'm guessing their antenna systems are not the best, which coupled with poor conditions makes it tough. It was interesting to note this morning that the FO/KM9D was S9 while the KH8 was barely S4-5..on 30 meters. If we don't work them on this trip, I would bet that someone with a well planned DXpedition will soon be visiting Swaines and it will be quickly removed from many of our need lists. Good luck to alllets just give them the benefit of the doubt. 73 Tony, W4FOA -- Tony, KH8SI was S3 this AM (31JUL06 0400 UTC ) with QSB. His sig started steadily increasing on my HB Vert until around 0600 UTC when the OP stated QRT USA then went QRT. During this period the Op continually did the following scenario: K8 ?? 599 BK TU UP K4S ?? BK TU The Op didn't get the entire call yet gave a 599 and the Op came back NOT with call of the stn wkd but only a TU. So who did he work ?? I got perfect timing from two replies of KH8SI with: K4 ?? 559 BK and, K4S ?? 599 BK but all the Op sent back was 559 TU, and 599 TU. That is not a confirmed QSO with me. Did he work me ?? Don't really know so cannot log it !! Jeez !! 73, Larry - K4WLS Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Airmail Envelopes?
Anyone know a good source of Airmail Envelopes? Wal-Mart and the big-box office supply stores no longer carry them. Thanks, Garth, KW4MM
RE: [DX-CHAT] Airmail Envelopes?
Plum currently has a special price on some overstock of Euro airmail send and the nesting return envelopes 73 Don AC7ZG From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garth Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 5:05 PM To: DX-Chat Subject: [DX-CHAT] Airmail Envelopes? Anyone know a good source of Airmail Envelopes? Wal-Mart and the big-box office supply stores no longer carry them. Thanks, Garth, KW4MM
Re: [DX-CHAT] Airmail Envelopes?
Garth - A number of years ago I went the route of having an rubber stamp made with PAR AVION AIRMAIL on the stamp. I use a red ink pad and use standard 3 5/8 x 6.5 envelopes. In the long run...It's cheaper unless you need lightweight envelopes. 73, Jay/AF2C At 07:04 PM 7/31/2006 -0500, you wrote: Anyone know a good source of Airmail Envelopes? Wal-Mart and the big-box office supply stores no longer carry them. Thanks, Garth, KW4MM
Re: [DX-CHAT] Airmail Envelopes?
Also the USPS stickers come in at least two sizes, maybe more. Just ask for them at any Post Office window, they should have them in their stamp drawer. Tom, WW5L Bill wrote: Post Office will give you free PAR AVION AIRMAIL stickers..If you want to spend money W4MPY, The QSL Man, has very nice ones!! Bill - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Garth mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org mailto:dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Airmail Envelopes? Garth - A number of years ago I went the route of having an rubber stamp made with PAR AVION AIRMAIL on the stamp. I use a red ink pad and use standard 3 5/8 x 6.5 envelopes. In the long run...It's cheaper unless you need lightweight envelopes. 73, Jay/AF2C At 07:04 PM 7/31/2006 -0500, you wrote: Anyone know a good source of Airmail Envelopes? Wal-Mart and the big-box office supply stores no longer carry them. Thanks, Garth, KW4MM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
