Re: [DX-CHAT] The ARRL

2007-03-15 Thread Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH)
I'll echo that!  John, K5MO(and all you other league haters), please 
take a reasonable amount of time to sit and think of anything you can 
that is positive about ARRL.  If you can't find anything you are 
likely among those who just like to bitch about ARRL, and don't know why.


I can tell you for sure that back around 1991, they literally saved 
my butt through the volunteer counsel program. I had an excellent 
attorney, Jim Hayne himself attended the legal proceedings, and the 
folks who sued me over my antenna walked away with their tail between 
their legs. It didn't cost me one red cent.


73,
Mike, W5UC

At 10:05 PM 3/14/2007, you wrote:
Double BRAVO!!  The ARRL may not always be right about everything, 
but it has done more to promote and sustain ham radio than any other 
organization...


- Original Message - From: Ragnar Otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] The ARRL



BRAVO !!

73  Rag  LA5HE , ARRL life member

My point is that ARRL CHANGED, because the consensus of its members
changed. The ARRL is not them, it's us! If you don't like the
positions taken by your board member, tell him or her, and be
prepared to stand for election next time to see if your views get
accepted.


But despite its imperfections, ARRL represents amateur
radio worldwide (not just in the USA) better than any other
organization, including IARU.

I disagree here !

A particular point of criticism seems to be the DXCC branch, and the
way it deals with DXpeditions and potential new DXCC Entities. As a
member of the DX Advisory Committee, I'd agree that some of the
executive decisions appear on occasion to be arbitrary (7O1YGF, BS7H,
etc).

Remember, this is only a  game !!!

But for better or worse there are some key threads which
explain most of them: Take the long-term view; Support governments
and national amateur radio organizations; And above all try not to
risk the integrity of the #1 award in ham radio (memories of Romeo
still hurt!).

So, when you bash ARRL and especially DXCC, expect me to tune out folks.

73, John, NT5C.




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RE: [DX-CHAT] The ARRL

2007-03-15 Thread LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad
This might be appropriate if it was true.

Please show one published poll in QST where the membership was polled and 
the results mandated  ARRL to get rid of, or minimize the code test.



ARRL is practising what we call representaive democracy, ie.  people are
elected  to decide on our behalf.
This is just like in politics !
You may not like what your politicians are deciding , but you have to stick
with it untill next election !
Same thing with national societies like ARRL.

73   Rag LA5HE ARRL life member ( although not even having lived over
there ! )






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Re: [DX-CHAT] The ARRL

2007-03-15 Thread Bill Rinker

Jerry:  Well said.  Bill, NE9Z in Wyoming

- Original Message - 
From: Jerry Keller [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Double BRAVO!!  The ARRL may not always be right about everything, but it 
has done more to promote and sustain ham radio than any other 
organization... certainly in this country and maybeworldwide as well.  The 
ARRL has been one of the first and foremost, and has been a model for the 
national amateur radio organizations of many other countries.  Everyone's 
entitled to an opinion, but I'm really, really tired of seeing the ARRL 
run down all the time. I have no doubt whatsoever that there would be no 
ham

radio in this country without the ARRL.

73, Jerry K3BZ

- Original Message - 
From: Ragnar Otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 6:35 PM
Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] The ARRL



BRAVO !!

73  Rag  LA5HE , ARRL life member




My point is that ARRL CHANGED, because the consensus of its members
changed. The ARRL is not them, it's us! If you don't like the
positions taken by your board member, tell him or her, and be
prepared to stand for election next time to see if your views get
accepted.


But despite its imperfections, ARRL represents amateur
radio worldwide (not just in the USA) better than any other
organization, including IARU.

I disagree here !

A particular point of criticism seems to be the DXCC branch, and the
way it deals with DXpeditions and potential new DXCC Entities. As a
member of the DX Advisory Committee, I'd agree that some of the
executive decisions appear on occasion to be arbitrary (7O1YGF, BS7H,
etc).

Remember, this is only a  game !!!

But for better or worse there are some key threads which
explain most of them: Take the long-term view; Support governments
and national amateur radio organizations; And above all try not to
risk the integrity of the #1 award in ham radio (memories of Romeo
still hurt!).

So, when you bash ARRL and especially DXCC, expect me to tune out folks.

73, John, NT5C.




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