[DX-CHAT] Re: [DX-NEWS] Re: [Dx-qsl] 7O1YGF Approved for DXCC Credit
My understanding was that they had some documentation but it was thought that their license or OK to operate was issued by a regional authority - sort of like the state of Illinois issuing me a license instead of the FCC. I'm just happy that it finaly got approved. I have one other confirmed QSO with 7O from an operation that was not approved. I just sent for a card for this one today. 73, Zack W9SZ On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Jack k4...@arrl.net wrote: IF memory serves, these guys NEVER submitted documentation in the first place Yemen is the last one I need and they are not in my log. I'm jealous, envious and happy for those of you that do have them in your log! At 12:26 PM 8/13/2009, you wrote: After reviewing recently-received information regarding the 7O1YGF operation, and after additional dialogue with a leader of the DXpedition, the DXCC desk has approved this operation. Nine years later and this Yemen operation just now gets approval? What's going on here? Can any body report on what the 'recently-received information' was that changed Bill's position on the 7O1YGF operation? Doug I'll run the race and I will never be the same again. -Original Message- From: kf...@njdxa.org [ mailto:kf...@njdxa.org kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Jim Reisert AD1C Sent: August 12, 2009 4:27 PM To: dx-n...@njdxa.org Cc: DX4WIN Reflector; YCCC; mhdxa; PPDXG Reflector; GMCC Subject: [DX-NEWS] 7O1YGF Approved for DXCC Credit The following news is from the ARRL DXCC Desk and is for real! Bernie, W3UR The following operation has been approved for DXCC: 7O1YGF Yemen Operation from April 16, 2000 through April 26, 2000 After reviewing recently-received information regarding the 7O1YGF operation, and after additional dialogue with a leader of the DXpedition, the DXCC desk has approved this operation. Considering the length of time that has passed since this operation, we ask that DXCC participants who would like to claim credit for 7O1YGF follow the options below: • Send the 7O1YGF card ONLY to DXCC with a SASE, or return postage if outside the US; DXCC will process the card and applicants will not be charged a submission fee. 7O1YGF cards included with other cards will be handled as part of a normal submission. • Bring the card to a DXCC Card Checker. The card checker will forward the confirmation to the DXCC desk for processing. Again, there will be no submission fee if this is a single-card submission. You must fill out an application form, however. In all other cases applicants can include their QSL card with their next submission, and it will be handled normally. We will work with the 7O1YGF team to use Logbook of the World if possible. Remember, the cutoff date for the 2009 DXCC Annual listing and Honor Roll list is December 31, 2009. We encourage applicants to handle this sooner rather than wait until the last minute. 73 es DX! Bill Moore NC1L Awards Branch Manager Jack Hartley K4WSB / VP2MSB DXCC Honor Roll QCWA OOTC *Celebrating 50 years in Ham Radio * --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-news or subscribe dx-news This is the DX-NEWS reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] DK9KX
Anyone have a current email address for Hans - DK9KX. The 2 year old one I have for him doesn't work. I want to thank him and others via him for their eventual success on getting 7O1YGF approved by DXCC. John Owens --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Re: 7O1YGF
On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Zack Widup W9SZ wrote: My understanding was that they had some documentation but it was thought that their license or OK to operate was issued by a regional authority - sort of like the state of Illinois issuing me a license instead of the FCC. That was more-or-less my understanding too Zack. Their operation was approved (in writing ?) by the office in Aden, but was subsequently disavowed by the head office in the capital Sana'a. Not wanting to burn its bridges for future amateur radio activities, ARRL/DXCC reluctantly supported Sana'a. However, I think there have been cases where ARRL accepted less than a national license - What about the scouts in 3V8 ? Perhaps one day Bill will feel free to tell us if we have that right. 7O1A, the operation by Franz DJ9ZB and Zorro, is the one that frustrates me. So far as I know, there is no geographic issue - they were there. But what sort of approval did they have? It's the only 7O I have worked on 40M SSB, and there doesn't seem to be any move toward it counting. John, NT5C. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Re: [DX-NEWS] 7O1YGF Approved for DXCC Credit
Yup. That's exactly right. It took 9 years. Why? Because the ARRL DXCC Desk requests documentation of some form or another to confirm that an amateur or a group are authorized to operate from entities like this that are normally difficult to near-impossible to operate from. Why is that? One word: Romeo. Or, if you prefer, three words: Dr. Don Miller. Amongst many (fortunately, very relatively few) others who didn't operate from where they said they were. To say nothing of governments, usually after a change in administration, that claim that individuals who said they were operating legally weren't (remember the 9U fiasco a few years back?) So why now? That's a good question. I asked that of Bill when he replied to a quip I'd made on another reflector (my trips to Dayton with K3AIR will never be the same, we no longer have 7O to argue over!), but he's out of the office at an event, so i don't know if or when I will hear from him. If I had to guess -- and remember, this is a guess -- I know that in the past there has been a lack of documentation provided to the DXCC desk. Which is why the operation was in "pending" status for so long. I believe N7NG said at one point during his time at the League that they just needed SOMETHING to show that they had permission from the national government to operate -- and it wasn't a case that they didn't believe the team wasn't there, but (and this is my interpretation) because of past precedent, they had to ask. Remember, though, that 7O1YGF was in "pending" status all these years. It wasn't a question of anyone's mind being changed -- they just needed that shred of evidence. Obviously, something occurred recently that was "enough" to satisfy the technicalities. Exactly what I don't know, but I'm sure sooner or later it will be revealed. 73Aug 13, 2009 12:55:21 PM, ve...@sasktel.net wrote: "After reviewing recently-received information regarding the 7O1YGFoperation, and after additional dialogue with a leader of theDXpedition,the DXCC desk has approved this operation."Nine years later and this Yemen operation just now gets approval?What's going on here? Can any body report on what the 'recently-received information' was thatchanged Bill's position on the 7O1YGF operation?Doug I'll run the race and I will never be the same again. -Original Message-From: kf...@njdxa.org [mailto:kf...@njdxa.org] On Behalf Of Jim ReisertAD1CSent: August 12, 2009 4:27 PMTo: dx-n...@njdxa.orgCc: DX4WIN Reflector; YCCC; mhdxa; PPDXG Reflector; GMCCSubject: [DX-NEWS] 7O1YGF Approved for DXCC CreditThe following news is from the ARRL DXCC Desk and is for real!Bernie, W3URThe following operation has been approved for DXCC:7O1YGF YemenOperation from April 16, 2000 through April 26, 2000After reviewing recently-received information regarding the 7O1YGFoperation, and after additional dialogue with a leader of theDXpedition,the DXCC desk has approved this operation.Considering the length of time that has passed since this operation, weaskthat DXCC participants who would like to claim credit for 7O1YGF followtheoptions below: Send the 7O1YGF card ONLY to DXCC with a SASE, or return postage ifoutside the US; DXCC will process the card and applicants will not becharged a submission fee. 7O1YGF cards included with other cards will behandled as part of a normal submission. Bring the card to a DXCC Card Checker. The card checker will forwardtheconfirmation to the DXCC desk for processing. Again, there will be nosubmission fee if this is a single-card submission. You must fill out anapplication form, however.In all other cases applicants can include their QSL card with their nextsubmission, and it will be handled normally. We will work with the7O1YGFteam to use Logbook of the World if possible.Remember, the cutoff date for the 2009 DXCC Annual listing and HonorRolllist is December 31, 2009. We encourage applicants to handle this soonerrather than wait until the last minute.73 es DX!Bill Moore NC1LAwards BranchManager---To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-newsor subscribe dx-newsThis is the DX-NEWS reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org--- ---To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chator subscribe dx-chatThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Re: 7O1YGF
My understanding is that Franz and Zorro had authorisation from the Aden office, not from Sana'a. Given the dubious authorisatoins that some people got away with, I'd always thohgh that the 7O1A guys got a bit of a raw deal. However, I'm not in a position to know about whatever games of politics were going on in the background. Cynics may say that if you want instant authorisation from ARRL, then take OH2BH or one of their other pals with you. But I'm not a cynic, of course... 73 Dave G0OIL --- On Thu, 13/8/09, John Warren n...@texas.net wrote: From: John Warren n...@texas.net Subject: [DX-CHAT] Re: 7O1YGF To: dx-chat dx-chat dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: Thursday, 13 August, 2009, 7:01 PM On Aug 13, 2009, at 12:02 PM, Zack Widup W9SZ wrote: My understanding was that they had some documentation but it was thought that their license or OK to operate was issued by a regional authority - sort of like the state of Illinois issuing me a license instead of the FCC. That was more-or-less my understanding too Zack. Their operation was approved (in writing ?) by the office in Aden, but was subsequently disavowed by the head office in the capital Sana'a. Not wanting to burn its bridges for future amateur radio activities, ARRL/DXCC reluctantly supported Sana'a. However, I think there have been cases where ARRL accepted less than a national license - What about the scouts in 3V8 ? Perhaps one day Bill will feel free to tell us if we have that right. 7O1A, the operation by Franz DJ9ZB and Zorro, is the one that frustrates me. So far as I know, there is no geographic issue - they were there. But what sort of approval did they have? It's the only 7O I have worked on 40M SSB, and there doesn't seem to be any move toward it counting. John, NT5C. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] Availabity of 7O1YGF QSL cards?
OK, so I had 5 QSOs with 7O1YGF which I never requested confirmation for. After the 7O1A debacle and my cards being rejected by the DXCC Desk, I decided to take a lets see what happens attitude. I pretty much had given up hope that the 7O1YGF operation would ever be approved after a year or two of not hearing anything, and subsequently put it out of my mind. Naturally, I am now very eager to get these contacts confirmed. This would put me within one click of having worked and confirmed them all. So does anyone know if the original ops have the logs and will answer direct QSL requests? The sources I checked indicate DJ3XD as the route for CW contacts, and DK9KX for SSB RTTY. I've never used LOTW, from what I have read elsewhere, that may become a viable way to receive a confirmation. I'd rather have the actual card. Kicking myself for not having acted when the operation was still recent. What would you do if you were me? vy 73/DX, Mike, K2CD --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Availabity of 7O1YGF QSL cards?
I had one CW QSO. My card went out in the mail to DJ3XD this morning. 73, Zack W9SZ On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:37 PM, Mike D'Alto d...@optonline.net wrote: OK, so I had 5 QSOs with 7O1YGF which I never requested confirmation for. After the 7O1A debacle and my cards being rejected by the DXCC Desk, I decided to take a lets see what happens attitude. I pretty much had given up hope that the 7O1YGF operation would ever be approved after a year or two of not hearing anything, and subsequently put it out of my mind. Naturally, I am now very eager to get these contacts confirmed. This would put me within one click of having worked and confirmed them all. So does anyone know if the original ops have the logs and will answer direct QSL requests? The sources I checked indicate DJ3XD as the route for CW contacts, and DK9KX for SSB RTTY. I've never used LOTW, from what I have read elsewhere, that may become a viable way to receive a confirmation. I'd rather have the actual card. Kicking myself for not having acted when the operation was still recent. What would you do if you were me? vy 73/DX, Mike, K2CD --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
[DX-CHAT] 7OYGF
Mine is also dated 24 April 2000. Guess we are out of luck again. Nick W9UM Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote! Ben Franklin --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] Availabity of 7O1YGF QSL cards?
I worked the 7O operation just before Iraq invaded Kuwait. The QSL manager was a member of the Kuwaiti royal family which had to flee Kuwait. I had sent a QSL card but figured no chance of getting a confirmation. Four years later I got the card. Amazing!!! 73 Russ W4UBC - Original Message - From: Mike D'Alto d...@optonline.net To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:37 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Availabity of 7O1YGF QSL cards? OK, so I had 5 QSOs with 7O1YGF which I never requested confirmation for. After the 7O1A debacle and my cards being rejected by the DXCC Desk, I decided to take a lets see what happens attitude. I pretty much had given up hope that the 7O1YGF operation would ever be approved after a year or two of not hearing anything, and subsequently put it out of my mind. Naturally, I am now very eager to get these contacts confirmed. This would put me within one click of having worked and confirmed them all. So does anyone know if the original ops have the logs and will answer direct QSL requests? The sources I checked indicate DJ3XD as the route for CW contacts, and DK9KX for SSB RTTY. I've never used LOTW, from what I have read elsewhere, that may become a viable way to receive a confirmation. I'd rather have the actual card. Kicking myself for not having acted when the operation was still recent. What would you do if you were me? vy 73/DX, Mike, K2CD --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
