RE: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
Also there was a clarification on this rule about a year ago. I think it was written up in the November 2004 in the How's DX column. Bernie McClenny, W3UR -- Now more than ever - you need The Daily DX and The Weekly DX - to keep up with the DX news from around the globe! Editor of - The Daily DX -- two free weeks http://www.dailydx.com/order.htm - The Weekly DX -- free sample http://www.dailydx.com/weekly2.html - How's DX http://www.dailydx.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Garth Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 20:43 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds The 'WET FEET operation was in June of 1994. Both the '95 '97 operations were approved by DXCC. 73, Garth, KW4MM - Original Message - From: Tom Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds Dave: I was told that it was disallowed in 1995 because the scaffolding was in the water at high tide. Some of the photos from this operation posted show some scaffolding in the water. You have to look, but its there. Tom, WW5L DAVE WHITE wrote: They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
OK, thanks guys. The hazy memories of 12 years ago are coming back Whatever, these chaps who just did the operation did a superb job. I'd employ them as scaffolders anytimeexcept that I always do my own Dave G0OIL Tom Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave: I was told that it was disallowed in 1995 because the scaffolding was in the water at high tide. Some of the photos from this operation posted show some scaffolding in the water. You have to look, but its there. Tom, WW5L DAVE WHITE wrote: They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
Allowed or dis-allowed, after seeing the photos of this operation, all I can say is Absolutely amazing! I shudder to think what would have happened if a 3 foot wave had come by. Bill W5EC Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
Dave! I have QSL's from the 1994, 1995 and 1997 operations. The 1994 operation did not count for DXCC, and you are correct about the reason for it. 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DAVE WHITE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
Just looking at the first QSL and the pictures from the recentoperation, there is a big difference. The scaffold on the first operation raises the operating level several feet into the air. This time it looks like the operators have taken great care not to do this, and they look level with the rocks. Wow, they've put on a great effort! cheers Dave G0OIL Osten B Magnusson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dave! I have QSL's from the 1994, 1995 and 1997 operations. The 1994 operation did not count for DXCC, and you are correct about the reason for it. 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DAVE WHITE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
Hi again! It did not take many minutes after I sent the e-mail below, until I got a question regarding my QSO's during the 2007 expedition: Did I work them again and therefore may have made anyone else miss a QSO? Answer is YES and NO. I had worked previous expeditions to BS7H on 40 and 20 meters, so I did NOT try to work again on those bands, but I worked them on 30 and 17 meters. 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave! I have QSL's from the 1994, 1995 and 1997 operations. The 1994 operation did not count for DXCC, and you are correct about the reason for it. 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: DAVE WHITE To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
I hope so. What better way to hatch new DXers? I can just see it now - Martha, hand me my binoculars. I think I see a rare yellow-speckled DX-beeper. I'd know that call anywhere - di-di-di-di-dit dah-dit dah-dit. 73, Zack W9SZ On Fri, 11 May 2007, DAVE WHITE wrote: They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
I notice that there are very few of the DX station operators contributing to this thread. I remember operating from VP5 in 1977there was a demand for 80M contacts..not easy to string up an 80M antenna there because of the real estate. We found a reel of stainless steel leader wire and hooked it on to a large kite and started unreeling..ultimately strung up 330' and proceeded to make a multitude of contacts until we lost the kite. I do not remember receiving a single green stamp but all QSLs received were answered faithfully. 73 Norm K1AA - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 8:58 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds I hope so. What better way to hatch new DXers? I can just see it now - Martha, hand me my binoculars. I think I see a rare yellow-speckled DX-beeper. I'd know that call anywhere - di-di-di-di-dit dah-dit dah-dit. 73, Zack W9SZ On Fri, 11 May 2007, DAVE WHITE wrote: They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
Dave: I was told that it was disallowed in 1995 because the scaffolding was in the water at high tide. Some of the photos from this operation posted show some scaffolding in the water. You have to look, but its there. Tom, WW5L DAVE WHITE wrote: They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
The 'WET FEET operation was in June of 1994. Both the '95 '97 operations were approved by DXCC. 73, Garth, KW4MM - Original Message - From: Tom Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Friday, May 11, 2007 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds Dave: I was told that it was disallowed in 1995 because the scaffolding was in the water at high tide. Some of the photos from this operation posted show some scaffolding in the water. You have to look, but its there. Tom, WW5L DAVE WHITE wrote: They do seem like an impressive job. Just thinking back to 1995 for a moment, didn't the ARRL disallow the first BS7 expedition because the operators had artificially created land above high water with scaffolds - and then the second operation was allowed because they perched on the rocks? Or did I get that wrong. I wonder if they built nests and laid any eggs? :-) Dave G0OIL Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
At 19:10 -0500 5/11/07, Tom Anderson wrote: Dave: I was told that it was disallowed in 1995 because the scaffolding was in the water at high tide. Some of the photos from this operation posted show some scaffolding in the water. You have to look, but its there. Tom, WW5L That was what I had originally heard too. Recently, though, I heard that after the pictures were taken, operation was actually from the boat, and someone told. I'm not pointing any fingers at anyone. What I heard was simply hearsay, and I have no idea what the facts actually were. Don't yell at me. N2ERN -- Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds
You wouldn't want the foam to float away. Mark N1UK - Original Message - From: Gary Danaher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Thursday, 10 May, 2007 10:52 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] Those scaffolds Nobody else has mentioned this so I feel the need. How did those guys get those platforms erected so quickly? They appear to be quite sturdy. Wonder if they borrowed somebody's back yard, had a dump truck full of rocks dropped off, and practiced doing this a few times. Ya' know this wasn't very easy, even if they were able to wade hip deep next to the rocks. If somebody could get the actual dimensions and forms of the rocks, the next trip out they could have foam-fitted platforms to just drop over the rock and start working! Ah, the dream Gary AB5RM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
