Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread Scott Manthe
I think the downturn in behavior on the ham bands really came in the very late 1970s and into the 80's when the FCC essentially abdicated it's enforcement role in favor of "self-policing." It was during this time (the 80s) that the guys like WA4D started doing their thing. It makes perfect se

Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread Norm Gertz
y are now put to rest for good. God bless Amateur Radio and the "good guys". 73 Norm K1AA - Original Message - From: "Barry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'DX-CHAT'" Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:35 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen H

Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread Zack Widup
Those are good points, Mal. I was going to follow up one of my postings with the observation that it is only a small percentage of people who are being nasty. In a really big pileup, I have never heard 100 stations misbehaving on the DX frequency. Maybe 5 or 10. Considering there may be 100

Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread N7MAL
ing to an end today.It's already tomorrow in Australia - Original Message - From: Zack Widup To: 'DX-CHAT' Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 14:39 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > I can still re

Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread Barry
most of the > violators are old timers, extra class etc. Years ago intentional QRM > was almost unheard of and operators did not have the luxury of split > nor a VFO. You were limited to a handful of crystals. Perhaps newer > is not always better in spite of the sophisticated equi

Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread Zack Widup
On Fri, 21 Apr 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I can still recall one evening in college (about 30 years ago... *sigh*), > when a bunch of us were operating K3CR on 20 phone, when a small pile-up > developed (don't ask me why, we weren't a "special event," just a college > club station, and

Re: [DX-CHAT]�Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why is it more prevalent today? For one thing, IMHO, sheer numbers. We have > more hams today than we did 30 years ago, and as a result, while the > percentage of lids has (hopefully) remained small, the actual number has > risen. And when it takes only 1 or 2 din

Re: [DX-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread wn3vaw
ften. 73, ron wn3vaw From: Norm Gertz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Fri Apr 21 07:45:47 CDT 2006 To: Dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'WC7N' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 'DX-CHAT' Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S My observations through the y

Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-21 Thread Norm Gertz
m then you expect low grade performance. 73 Norm K1AA - Original Message - From: "Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WC7N'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'DX-CHAT'" Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 8:56 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx

Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-20 Thread Zack Widup
On Thu, 20 Apr 2006, WC7N wrote: > Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but > working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and > just no patience when you get home. > > Rod WC7N > No, I think it's the way the society is going in gener

Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-20 Thread Peter W2IRT
At 21:12 04/20/06, Scott Manthe wrote: Well, your friend's only been a ham for 12-15 years, so it could still be dumbing down. After all, he is a product of the V.E. licensing system and never had to take a test in front of an F.C.C. examiner and could just memorize the question pool to get hi

RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-20 Thread Dave
ize that possibility.       73,     Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message-From: N7MAL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 21:07 PMTo: Dave; 'WC7N'; 'DX-CHAT'Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S And you're Mr. P

Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-20 Thread Jim Reisert AD1C
WC7N wrote: > His answer "I work hard all day and > when I come home and have time to ham I don't have to put up with that s..." > Well maybe that is the problem now, not the dumbing down of the license but > working hard to support a family, taking too much sh.. from the boss and > just no pa

RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-20 Thread Peter W2IRT
At 20:56 04/20/06, Dave wrote: Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no excuse for transmitting on a DX station's frequency. Its hard to look someone in the eyes and firmly say "what you're doing is wrong, and here's why". At least your friend had you to tell him; for all to

Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-20 Thread Scott Manthe
Well, your friend's only been a ham for 12-15 years, so it could still be dumbing down. After all, he is a product of the V.E. licensing system and never had to take a test in front of an F.C.C. examiner and could just memorize the question pool to get his ticket. Unless, of course, your friend

Re: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-20 Thread N7MAL
riginal Message - From: Dave To: 'WC7N' ; 'DX-CHAT' Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 0:56 Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S Short of someone's life or limb being in danger, there is no excuse fortransmitting on a DX station's

RE: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S

2006-04-20 Thread Dave
many ops, there's no one. We reap what we sow... 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of WC7N Sent: Thursday, April 20, 2006 20:11 PM To: DX-CHAT Subject: [DX-CHAT] [dx-CHAT] Gentlemen HAM'S Today I