[DX-CHAT] K7C Kure Atoll
I was making application for K7C paper credit and noticed that K7C is available for LoTW credit. 73s Lou KE1F Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] K7C
What do the coloured rings mean on the propagation chart? tom gm4fdm www.visitscotland.com
[DX-CHAT] K7C - callers out of 17m RTTY band
FYI, FCC Part 97.305 limits digital transmissions on 17m to 18.068 - 18.110 MHz: http://www.arrl.org/FandES/field/regulations/news/part97/d-305.html#305 Anyone calling K7C on RTTY above 18.110 was transmitting out-of-band. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
Is this expdition supposed to be a micro-lite dxpedition? As most of you know, when you wash your car, it will rain! The other morning I complained about weak or non-existent signals from K7C--I needed them on WARC bands. Maybe my wire vertical on WARC didn't help. But that afternoon they popped out of the noise on 30m and soon I had them logged and the next afternoon the same thing happened on 17m. Nothing yet on 12m. Within 5 minutes of qso, I had 2 green boxes. Amazing! Treachery or old age Bill W5EC Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C and DXA
My 2 missing qso's are showing in the on-line log now. Gerry KA2MGE Jan Erik Holm wrote: To be safe do that. I made 2 Q´s with them yesterday and both came into the log. 73 Jim SM2EKM --- Gerry Maira wrote: Thanks for all the replies. I'll wait a couple days and see what happens. Meanwhile I'll try for q's on a couple other bands and see if they make it to the log. I'd sure like to see at least one in the log since this is an all time new one for me. 73, Gerry KA2MGE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re[2]: [DX-CHAT] K7C and DXA
Hello dx-chat, Friday, September 30, 2005 Gerry Maira wrote to : GM My 2 missing qso's are showing in the on-line log now. My 2 QSO on 20 and 30 m, which I could see there previously, now annihilated. -- 73...Art RX9TX 01-Oct-05 02:33 UTC http://rx9tx.qrz.ru Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry. (Mark Twain) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
Tony, From what I got from the DX Blurbs, the server is about 99.99 % maxed out with the log pages and and the DXA Page. For some reason the 30 and 75M entries are not all getting in. They are working on a fix both here an yon.73, Larry - Original Message - From: Tony Martin W4FOA [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:12 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C Just curious Larry, where did you get this info? It is interesting that some QSO's are entered within a few minutes while others are a day or two old and not thereseems a bit odd, doesn't it? I am particularly interested in the 30 meter and 75 SSB entries that appear to be missing... Thanks for the info. Tony, W4FOA - Original Message - From: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gerry Maira [EMAIL PROTECTED]; dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 1:55 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C There is currently some probem in the uploading of logs, but sooner or later it will all get down. Seems the guys are having too much fun operating and resting a bit to load logs. Usually a 24 - 30 Hr delay time and word is that will shrink to nothing shortly, when they start calling Eu..just kidding Rag OB !!! Larry, K4WLS - Original Message - From: Gerry Maira [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2005 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C I worked them yesterday at 20:31z on 20 cw and this morning at 12:18z on 30 cw. I heard my call clearly both times but neither qso is showing up in the online log, which appears to be getting updated regularly. Is anyone else having this problem? Or, did anyone work them on the bands/mode that I did at about the same time and make it into the log? Thanks, Gerry KA2MGE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
Attaboy Larry. Old Age and Treachery will defeat youth and big beams every time(Hi). 73 Russ(Age 71), W4UBC - Original Message - From: Larry, K4WLS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C Larry, I can surely emphasize with you, as I never did get through to them on 40M Mon AM with my 90 W and Inv Vee up 25 ft even though I was camped out of their freq. Seemed like a few simplex QSO's escalated into a few thousand linears and yagis covering 8 KHz in a matter of seconds. I never have been one to give up easily so I was back it this morning, and I did get them on simplex using a few tricks in my bag. Course, I been running low power and simple wires/verticals to work DX for 45 years. Please go to http://www.mdxa.org (Magnolia DX Association). Click on the DX Tips link and feel free to read the dozens of DX Tips I have written to share my experience and bag of tricks with people like you and me. Hang in there, perserverence and dermination almost always overcome all obstacles, even low power, mediocre antennas. I have also found that praying seems to help quite a bit as well. GL Son, 73, Larry K4WLS From: Larry Van Horn, N5FPW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C Glad we have a place to editorialize just a bit cause this is been eating at me for the 32 years I have been a ham. Now I can get it off my chest. Before I start I am NOT picking on any individual here by name. These are aimed at the DX community in general. Soapbox mode on! So congrads Rod and to the rest of you who have worked Kure and especially if you got them on more than one band and mode. Master Rod wrote: But guys you just can't believe how strong they are here on the southern Oregon coast. And you can't believe how incredibly weak they have been here in the mountains of SW NC. For me that is probably a function that I do NOT have a top of the line setup (high power and an antenna farm the NSA would be proud of). And while it is nice they are going to try and service the EU, it is sad that those of us not equipped with high power and huge antenna farms can't get through the wall of JAs and Big Gun US/EU hams who have already have Kure in their logbooks. The bunch at Kure said, It's up to the DXer to make the QSO by making the most of his or her own skills, wits, and stamina. That is hilarious. They missed the most important part: equipment and lots of money to buy it. The DXpedition said they would base their operating philosophy around a survey taken in a DX magazine. When these sort of DX surveys are taken, they are talking to the big guns on the Honor Roll and others looking to get on the Honor Roll. They do not address the thousands who are the casual DXers that have never even worked Kure Island before. I dare say some hams don't even know where Kure is at. ;-) So when you look at the US ham population and say, they do not need to give us as much time to the US, think about the number of little pistols they are leaving out here in the US. Those of us on the east coast that do not have big setups and high power. We are probably in as much of a disadvantage as some of our EU friends. There are a lot of us who have not had a shot and probably will not have a shot at Kure no matter what happens, because it just isn't in the cards. But from what I have seen and heard over the last four days it is sad so many will not break through any wall, US, JA or EU because so many are trying to fill out and complete their every mode and band sheet. There is nothing more disgusting to me than some big shot DXer bragging on the list or on the air that he worked them on every band and mode, while so many didn't even get sniff on one band or mode. From their website: We are still struggling with a huge amount of physical tasks--antenna commissioning, station protection, moving water and gasoline, working for the resident naturalist, etc. We are very tired, there is limited ability at this moment to respond to individual requests for bands, modes, skeds, etc. Incredible. You elite want them to cater to your individual request to set up a sked or asking them to get on your band so you can fill out a hole? I'm glad some of you have worked them on bands and modes you haven't gotten them on before. And to those of you who worked Kure again on a band or mode you have worked them in the past, I have just one thing to say. Nothing more illustrates my point than this statement from their own website: We expect to make more than 80,000 total radio contacts with 35,000 different persons during the expedition. You do the math, 45,000 contacts to get another band or mode for someone who has probably already worked the country. Their are a lot of us guys out here that would like to work
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
--- Gerry Maira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I worked them yesterday at 20:31z on 20 cw and this morning at 12:18z on 30 cw. I heard my call clearly both times but neither qso is showing up in the online log, which appears to be getting updated regularly. Is anyone else having this problem? Or, did anyone work them on the bands/mode that I did at about the same time and make it into the log? Gerry, don't trust the server. It has been up and down, and I specifically remember an outage this morning. If you think the QSOs are good, you are done. As they have announced on the server several times, the server is NOT the log. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
Gerry thanks for the report. I have Kure from many years back, however 30 mtrs is a priority for me. I'm glad to see that they are on. Now if I can just get the energy to pull myself out of bed early enough in the morning. 73, Mike, W5UC At 01:28 PM 9/28/2005 -0400, Gerry Maira wrote: I worked them yesterday at 20:31z on 20 cw and this morning at 12:18z on 30 cw. I heard my call clearly both times but neither qso is showing up in the online log, which appears to be getting updated regularly. Is anyone else having this problem? Or, did anyone work them on the bands/mode that I did at about the same time and make it into the log? Thanks, Gerry KA2MGE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 9/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.11.8/113 - Release Date: 9/27/2005 Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] K7C and DXA
It's been explained by Bob, KK6EK, on the WEB - too heavy load on the server, and in order to reduce this they have today changed to data upload every 5 minutes, it was every minute from the start, later two minutes. 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] I worked them yesterday at 20:31z on 20 cw and this morning at 12:18z on 30 cw. I heard my call clearly both times but neither qso is showing up in the online log, which appears to be getting updated regularly. Is anyone else having this problem? Or, did anyone work them on the bands/mode that I did at about the same time and make it into the log? Thanks, Gerry KA2MGE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C logs
I thought I worked them on 40 CW after they came back to W9? but then I heard them call W0IZ. I sent my call and report again on the possibility they were hearing me and just heard a TU. So I don't know if I actually worked them or not. But neither my call nor W0IZ show up in the on-line log at this time. 73, Zack W9SZ On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: I have only 30 m showing, while I worked them on 40 first. I guess it is teathing problems with the new software that is causing this, or what ? Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C and DXA
Thanks for all the replies. I'll wait a couple days and see what happens. Meanwhile I'll try for q's on a couple other bands and see if they make it to the log. I'd sure like to see at least one in the log since this is an all time new one for me. 73, Gerry KA2MGE Osten B Magnusson wrote: It's been explained by Bob, KK6EK, on the WEB - too heavy load on the server, and in order to reduce this they have today changed to data upload every 5 minutes, it was every minute from the start, later two minutes. 73/DX de Osten SM5DQC[EMAIL PROTECTED] I worked them yesterday at 20:31z on 20 cw and this morning at 12:18z on 30 cw. I heard my call clearly both times but neither qso is showing up in the online log, which appears to be getting updated regularly. Is anyone else having this problem? Or, did anyone work them on the bands/mode that I did at about the same time and make it into the log? Thanks, Gerry KA2MGE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
Is this expdition supposed to be a micro-lite dxpedition? The signal is nonexistant or too far in the noise to copy--all freqs. Maybe conditions will change. Bill W5EC I worked them yesterday at 20:31z on 20 cw and this morning at 12:18z on 30 cw. I heard my call clearly both times but neither qso is showing up Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
29,490 QSO's in the log. I don't think so. You sound like the artillary spotter screaming at the gunner because the rounds are falling short. Gunner: The trouble must be on your end, because they're leaving here just fine. de Paul, W8AEF - Original Message - From: Bill Hawkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2005 2:52 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C Is this expdition supposed to be a micro-lite dxpedition? The signal is nonexistant or too far in the noise to copy--all freqs. Maybe conditions will change. Bill W5EC Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C and DXA
To be safe do that. I made 2 Q´s with them yesterday and both came into the log. 73 Jim SM2EKM --- Gerry Maira wrote: Thanks for all the replies. I'll wait a couple days and see what happens. Meanwhile I'll try for q's on a couple other bands and see if they make it to the log. I'd sure like to see at least one in the log since this is an all time new one for me. 73, Gerry KA2MGE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 29,490 QSO's in the log. I don't think so. You sound like the artillary spotter screaming at the gunner because the rounds are falling short. Gunner: The trouble must be on your end, because they're leaving here just fine. de Paul, W8AEF It seems that most of us in Europe are having problems at our end... 73's Boris T93Y -- Boris Knezovic T93Y, P.O. Box 59, Sarajevo BA-71000, Bosnia and Herzegovina E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] WEB Page: http://www.t93y.com -- Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] K7C
Propagation is just a small part of the game. It is a big part of the game up here in the North . This morning, 27 sept o6 UTC I checked the signals spotted on the clusters. The only audible signal was on 40 meters SP, with auroal flutter. The forecast is not particularly optimistic either, with high K and A indices !! We may have a few days now with virtually no or very poor openings. Unfortunately K7C today had moved to 7020, where there is a carrier . He is practiaclly zero beat with it, so if somebody could work them and ask for a 2-300 HZ move down it would be great ! I think Martti OH2BH is right, when he says that the Dxpeditioners have to control the situation. I have been waiting for K7C to announce QRZ EU. We would soon find out where they would work us, if they just made an effort. 73 rag LA5HE Most hams think the JA's are polite and orderly in a pileup. But when you get close enough to Japan to hear the 5 watters you find out they can be just as unruly as any Italian or American pileup. At XZ0A, the only way I could hear or work anyone other than a JA on 80m was to run the JA's 2 KHz up and everyone else 4 KHz up. The JA's never did catch on to what I was doing and I could run a dozen or more Q's 4 up and the pileup would still be calling me at 2 up. Patience. Sooner or later the JA masses will be satisfied and the K7C gang will be able to hear someone else. de Paul, W8AEF Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
Larry, I can understand your frustration. However, you seem to think you need some monster station to work these guys (or any DXped). This is not true. I have a very modest station. Cushcraft A3 at 38' for 10, 15 20. Butternut vertical w/4 radials for 40 80CW. That's it. Now, I will admit I do have a kilowatt at my disposal. But you can certainly get a smallish amp for a few hundred dollars. So you don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to work DX. I have been planning for several years to put up a 40m beam and something more competitive on 80. I recently erected my second tower which now has a shiney two element 40m beam on it (at only 42' mind you). This will also give me an opportunity to shunt feed this tower which should get me a little more competitive on 80 and maybe, just maybe, on 160m. It's all about perspective. If you can't get where you want to be, take the time and effort to improve your situation. It will pay dividends. Having said that, are you going to work K7C QRP on the first few days? Most likely not. BUT I'm fairly certain that anybody with a modest station, persistance and patience WILL get at least one band/mode. Hang in there and keep pounding away, it will be worth it when you get them in the log! 73 Kelly - N0VD On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Larry Van Horn, N5FPW wrote: Glad we have a place to editorialize just a bit cause this is been eating at me for the 32 years I have been a ham. Now I can get it off my chest. Before I start I am NOT picking on any individual here by name. These are aimed at the DX community in general. Soapbox mode on! So congrads Rod and to the rest of you who have worked Kure and especially if you got them on more than one band and mode. Master Rod wrote: But guys you just can't believe how strong they are here on the southern Oregon coast. And you can't believe how incredibly weak they have been here in the mountains of SW NC. For me that is probably a function that I do NOT have a top of the line setup (high power and an antenna farm the NSA would be proud of). And while it is nice they are going to try and service the EU, it is sad that those of us not equipped with high power and huge antenna farms can't get through the wall of JAs and Big Gun US/EU hams who have already have Kure in their logbooks. The bunch at Kure said, It's up to the DXer to make the QSO by making the most of his or her own skills, wits, and stamina. That is hilarious. They missed the most important part: equipment and lots of money to buy it. The DXpedition said they would base their operating philosophy around a survey taken in a DX magazine. When these sort of DX surveys are taken, they are talking to the big guns on the Honor Roll and others looking to get on the Honor Roll. They do not address the thousands who are the casual DXers that have never even worked Kure Island before. I dare say some hams don't even know where Kure is at. ;-) So when you look at the US ham population and say, they do not need to give us as much time to the US, think about the number of little pistols they are leaving out here in the US. Those of us on the east coast that do not have big setups and high power. We are probably in as much of a disadvantage as some of our EU friends. There are a lot of us who have not had a shot and probably will not have a shot at Kure no matter what happens, because it just isn't in the cards. But from what I have seen and heard over the last four days it is sad so many will not break through any wall, US, JA or EU because so many are trying to fill out and complete their every mode and band sheet. There is nothing more disgusting to me than some big shot DXer bragging on the list or on the air that he worked them on every band and mode, while so many didn't even get sniff on one band or mode. From their website: We are still struggling with a huge amount of physical tasks--antenna commissioning, station protection, moving water and gasoline, working for the resident naturalist, etc. We are very tired, there is limited ability at this moment to respond to individual requests for bands, modes, skeds, etc. Incredible. You elite want them to cater to your individual request to set up a sked or asking them to get on your band so you can fill out a hole? I'm glad some of you have worked them on bands and modes you haven't gotten them on before. And to those of you who worked Kure again on a band or mode you have worked them in the past, I have just one thing to say. Nothing more illustrates my point than this statement from their own website: We expect to make more than 80,000 total radio contacts with 35,000 different persons during the expedition. You do the math, 45,000 contacts to get another band or mode for someone who has probably already worked the country. Their are a lot of us guys out here that would like to work them for the first time on any band or mode. I'm
[DX-CHAT] K7C
Where on their web site is the on-line log? I tried to find it but it escapes me. Thanks. 73, Ken Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] K7C
I monitor the VE7CC reflector and I get a kick out of the duplicate K7C postings. Actually almost one a minute. Guess the posting is to say hey I worked him did you? Rod WC7N Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
I was listening to him yesterday afternoon and heard him respond to several /QRP stations. Rod WC7N - Original Message - From: Kelly Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Larry Van Horn, N5FPW [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C Larry, I can understand your frustration. However, you seem to think you need some monster station to work these guys (or any DXped). This is not true. I have a very modest station. Cushcraft A3 at 38' for 10, 15 20. Butternut vertical w/4 radials for 40 80CW. That's it. Now, I will admit I do have a kilowatt at my disposal. But you can certainly get a smallish amp for a few hundred dollars. So you don't have to spend thousands and thousands of dollars to work DX. I have been planning for several years to put up a 40m beam and something more competitive on 80. I recently erected my second tower which now has a shiney two element 40m beam on it (at only 42' mind you). This will also give me an opportunity to shunt feed this tower which should get me a little more competitive on 80 and maybe, just maybe, on 160m. It's all about perspective. If you can't get where you want to be, take the time and effort to improve your situation. It will pay dividends. Having said that, are you going to work K7C QRP on the first few days? Most likely not. BUT I'm fairly certain that anybody with a modest station, persistance and patience WILL get at least one band/mode. Hang in there and keep pounding away, it will be worth it when you get them in the log! 73 Kelly - N0VD On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Larry Van Horn, N5FPW wrote: Glad we have a place to editorialize just a bit cause this is been eating at me for the 32 years I have been a ham. Now I can get it off my chest. Before I start I am NOT picking on any individual here by name. These are aimed at the DX community in general. Soapbox mode on! So congrads Rod and to the rest of you who have worked Kure and especially if you got them on more than one band and mode. Master Rod wrote: But guys you just can't believe how strong they are here on the southern Oregon coast. And you can't believe how incredibly weak they have been here in the mountains of SW NC. For me that is probably a function that I do NOT have a top of the line setup (high power and an antenna farm the NSA would be proud of). And while it is nice they are going to try and service the EU, it is sad that those of us not equipped with high power and huge antenna farms can't get through the wall of JAs and Big Gun US/EU hams who have already have Kure in their logbooks. The bunch at Kure said, It's up to the DXer to make the QSO by making the most of his or her own skills, wits, and stamina. That is hilarious. They missed the most important part: equipment and lots of money to buy it. The DXpedition said they would base their operating philosophy around a survey taken in a DX magazine. When these sort of DX surveys are taken, they are talking to the big guns on the Honor Roll and others looking to get on the Honor Roll. They do not address the thousands who are the casual DXers that have never even worked Kure Island before. I dare say some hams don't even know where Kure is at. ;-) So when you look at the US ham population and say, they do not need to give us as much time to the US, think about the number of little pistols they are leaving out here in the US. Those of us on the east coast that do not have big setups and high power. We are probably in as much of a disadvantage as some of our EU friends. There are a lot of us who have not had a shot and probably will not have a shot at Kure no matter what happens, because it just isn't in the cards. But from what I have seen and heard over the last four days it is sad so many will not break through any wall, US, JA or EU because so many are trying to fill out and complete their every mode and band sheet. There is nothing more disgusting to me than some big shot DXer bragging on the list or on the air that he worked them on every band and mode, while so many didn't even get sniff on one band or mode. From their website: We are still struggling with a huge amount of physical tasks--antenna commissioning, station protection, moving water and gasoline, working for the resident naturalist, etc. We are very tired, there is limited ability at this moment to respond to individual requests for bands, modes, skeds, etc. Incredible. You elite want them to cater to your individual request to set up a sked or asking them to get on your band so you can fill out a hole? I'm glad some of you have worked them on bands and modes you haven't gotten them on before. And to those of you who worked Kure again on a band or mode you have worked them in the past, I have just one thing to say. Nothing more illustrates my point than this statement from their own website: We expect to make more than 80,000 total
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
Master Rod wrote: I was listening to him yesterday afternoon and heard him respond to several /QRP stations. Hope remains eternal as it always does when we are working DX in ye ole ham bands. Thanks for the encouraging words Rod. Maybe we can punch through the walls of stations using some cunning and clever tactics. ;-)) I still enjoy listening to the mess on 14195 right now. It is somewhat entertaining. 73 de Larry Van Horn, N5FPW Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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Larry, I can surely emphasize with you, as I never did get through to them on 40M Mon AM with my 90 W and Inv Vee up 25 ft even though I was camped out of their freq. Seemed like a few simplex QSO's escalated into a few thousand linears and yagis covering 8 KHz in a matter of seconds. I never have been one to give up easily so I was back it this morning, and I did get them on simplex using a few tricks in my bag. Course, I been running low power and simple wires/verticals to work DX for 45 years. Please go to http://www.mdxa.org (Magnolia DX Association). Click on the DX Tips link and feel free to read the dozens of DX Tips I have written to share my experience and bag of tricks with people like you and me. Hang in there, perserverence and dermination almost always overcome all obstacles, even low power, mediocre antennas. I have also found that praying seems to help quite a bit as well. GL Son, 73, Larry K4WLS From: Larry Van Horn, N5FPW [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 12:05 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C Glad we have a place to editorialize just a bit cause this is been eating at me for the 32 years I have been a ham. Now I can get it off my chest. Before I start I am NOT picking on any individual here by name. These are aimed at the DX community in general. Soapbox mode on! So congrads Rod and to the rest of you who have worked Kure and especially if you got them on more than one band and mode. Master Rod wrote: But guys you just can't believe how strong they are here on the southern Oregon coast. And you can't believe how incredibly weak they have been here in the mountains of SW NC. For me that is probably a function that I do NOT have a top of the line setup (high power and an antenna farm the NSA would be proud of). And while it is nice they are going to try and service the EU, it is sad that those of us not equipped with high power and huge antenna farms can't get through the wall of JAs and Big Gun US/EU hams who have already have Kure in their logbooks. The bunch at Kure said, It's up to the DXer to make the QSO by making the most of his or her own skills, wits, and stamina. That is hilarious. They missed the most important part: equipment and lots of money to buy it. The DXpedition said they would base their operating philosophy around a survey taken in a DX magazine. When these sort of DX surveys are taken, they are talking to the big guns on the Honor Roll and others looking to get on the Honor Roll. They do not address the thousands who are the casual DXers that have never even worked Kure Island before. I dare say some hams don't even know where Kure is at. ;-) So when you look at the US ham population and say, they do not need to give us as much time to the US, think about the number of little pistols they are leaving out here in the US. Those of us on the east coast that do not have big setups and high power. We are probably in as much of a disadvantage as some of our EU friends. There are a lot of us who have not had a shot and probably will not have a shot at Kure no matter what happens, because it just isn't in the cards. But from what I have seen and heard over the last four days it is sad so many will not break through any wall, US, JA or EU because so many are trying to fill out and complete their every mode and band sheet. There is nothing more disgusting to me than some big shot DXer bragging on the list or on the air that he worked them on every band and mode, while so many didn't even get sniff on one band or mode. From their website: We are still struggling with a huge amount of physical tasks--antenna commissioning, station protection, moving water and gasoline, working for the resident naturalist, etc. We are very tired, there is limited ability at this moment to respond to individual requests for bands, modes, skeds, etc. Incredible. You elite want them to cater to your individual request to set up a sked or asking them to get on your band so you can fill out a hole? I'm glad some of you have worked them on bands and modes you haven't gotten them on before. And to those of you who worked Kure again on a band or mode you have worked them in the past, I have just one thing to say. Nothing more illustrates my point than this statement from their own website: We expect to make more than 80,000 total radio contacts with 35,000 different persons during the expedition. You do the math, 45,000 contacts to get another band or mode for someone who has probably already worked the country. Their are a lot of us guys out here that would like to work them for the first time on any band or mode. I'm not interested in the DX Challenge, in fact, I could care less. A 5BDXCC award would be nice someday, but I won't go bankrupt to get it. The Navy in 23 years taught me patience and that has allowed me to slowly increase my country
[DX-CHAT] K7C
Does somebody know why they are working only Pacific Rim stns, even within the few hours there is an opening to Europe ? Listened on 40 and 20 this morning - no QRZ EU at any time !! Lots of frustrated people around in my neck of the woods ! hi 73 Rag LA5HE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
One of my pet peeves is DX operations that don't observe propagation. I called K7C a bit this morning on 40 CW at 1300Z and they were working mostly JA's. At that time they only had a short amount of time left for propagation to USA and another several hours to JA. Best utilization of propagation time would be to work NA/SA until they lose propagation and then switch to working JA. I didn't particularly need the QSO (I have KH7K confirmed on 40 from an earlier operation) and was just calling for fun but this is something I have observed with several Pacific DX operations in then past. 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: Does somebody know why they are working only Pacific Rim stns, even within the few hours there is an opening to Europe ? Listened on 40 and 20 this morning - no QRZ EU at any time !! Lots of frustrated people around in my neck of the woods ! hi 73 Rag LA5HE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
--- Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my pet peeves is DX operations that don't observe propagation. I called K7C a bit this morning on 40 CW at 1300Z and they were working mostly JA's. Meanwhile, Roger C21SX came up on 80CW right at our sunrise (1030z) and was a fairly easy QSO for a new one. 73 - Jim AD1C -- Jim Reisert AD1C, 7 Charlemont Court, North Chelmsford, MA 01863 USA +978-251-9933, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.ad1c.us Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
I would think you would not call, on a band you have confirmed, on the first day. Is it possible someone that needs Kure did not get through since you were calling? Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C One of my pet peeves is DX operations that don't observe propagation. I called K7C a bit this morning on 40 CW at 1300Z and they were working mostly JA's. At that time they only had a short amount of time left for propagation to USA and another several hours to JA. Best utilization of propagation time would be to work NA/SA until they lose propagation and then switch to working JA. I didn't particularly need the QSO (I have KH7K confirmed on 40 from an earlier operation) and was just calling for fun but this is something I have observed with several Pacific DX operations in then past. 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: Does somebody know why they are working only Pacific Rim stns, even within the few hours there is an opening to Europe ? Listened on 40 and 20 this morning - no QRZ EU at any time !! Lots of frustrated people around in my neck of the woods ! hi 73 Rag LA5HE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
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I second that feeling. I was able to break the JA wall this morning on 40 before my sunrise. However, they also showed up on 80m with a very good signal into Colorado just before my SR. Many 0s, 6s 7s were calling and calling yet they continued to work mostly JAs. I listened for a while before having to leave for work. Well after my SR they were still copyable on 80, but continued to work mostly JAs. I did hear a few 6s get through, but the ratio of propagationally favored to Pacific Rim was pretty low. I noticed this with KH9/W0CN yesterday too. I caught him on SSB yesterday afternoon and pointed out that he had big signals on 40 to the USA during our SR but was working JAs at that time. I asked if he would listen for us, but was kind of disappointed in his answer. I guess we'll just have to deal with it and hope to break the walls that be. 73 GL. Kelly - N0VD On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, Zack Widup wrote: One of my pet peeves is DX operations that don't observe propagation. I called K7C a bit this morning on 40 CW at 1300Z and they were working mostly JA's. At that time they only had a short amount of time left for propagation to USA and another several hours to JA. Best utilization of propagation time would be to work NA/SA until they lose propagation and then switch to working JA. I didn't particularly need the QSO (I have KH7K confirmed on 40 from an earlier operation) and was just calling for fun but this is something I have observed with several Pacific DX operations in then past. 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: Does somebody know why they are working only Pacific Rim stns, even within the few hours there is an opening to Europe ? Listened on 40 and 20 this morning - no QRZ EU at any time !! Lots of frustrated people around in my neck of the woods ! hi 73 Rag LA5HE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] K7C
I approve of that attitude. If you dont need it, let somebody else have a go. 73 Rag LA5HE I would think you would not call, on a band you have confirmed, on the first day. Is it possible someone that needs Kure did not get through since you were calling? Bill W4WX - Original Message - From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C One of my pet peeves is DX operations that don't observe propagation. I called K7C a bit this morning on 40 CW at 1300Z and they were working mostly JA's. At that time they only had a short amount of time left for propagation to USA and another several hours to JA. Best utilization of propagation time would be to work NA/SA until they lose propagation and then switch to working JA. I didn't particularly need the QSO (I have KH7K confirmed on 40 from an earlier operation) and was just calling for fun but this is something I have observed with several Pacific DX operations in then past. 73, Zack W9SZ On Mon, 26 Sep 2005, LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: Does somebody know why they are working only Pacific Rim stns, even within the few hours there is an opening to Europe ? Listened on 40 and 20 this morning - no QRZ EU at any time !! Lots of frustrated people around in my neck of the woods ! hi 73 Rag LA5HE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] K7C
I noticed this with KH9/W0CN yesterday too. I caught him on SSB yesterday afternoon and pointed out that he had big signals on 40 to the USA during our SR but was working JAs at that time. I asked if he would listen for us, but was kind of disappointed in his answer. I guess we'll just have to deal with it and hope to break the walls that be. 73 GL. Kelly - N0VD KH9/W0CN was coming through on 40 here also, abt 549. If he had made an effort, it would be possible to work him. Unfortunately, he kept working JAs ! Perhaps it is something wrong with me, but I would think he can work JAs 24 hours a day, but Europe only for abt 1 hour ! My conclusion is that quanty has priority. Not looking for the challenge of working through the Auroral zone. 73 Rag LA5HE Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] K7C
LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: Does somebody know why they are working only Pacific Rim stns, even within the few hours there is an opening to Europe ? Listened on 40 and 20 this morning - no QRZ EU at any time !! Lots of frustrated people around in my neck of the woods ! hi Early this morning (~0900Z), I heard them work numerous EU stations on 40, but they had to compete with the JAs as did everyone else. It's always a pile-up on the first day of a DXpedition. On the other hand, KH9/W0CN was practically begging for contacts last evening on 20. 73, Bob N7XY Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
