Re[2]: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves
Hello Charles, CH I have a USA mail drop... my son receives my mail that comes to CH his and my USA address, 4301 Jenkins Dr, Plano, and he CH periodically sends my mail to me Last month he spent $148 usd CH to send me a slim FedEx box So is that why you want _us_ to spend that money on that expensive services, ...try Registered Mail or, if desperate, use FedEx, UPS, or DHL? CH LogBook Of The World why I do not use this great service: CH 1. I log onto old fashioned paper. Just ask on the net, I bet you will find someone who is ready to enter your logs to the computer. BTW your VU4 logs, are they paper logs? CH 2. I choose to do other much more interesting things than data entry. See item 1. CH 3. I find LBOTW very difficult to use. And I have tried, and had help, CH still failed to get it. Even I can do that for you if you send me your logs in ADIF and claim me to be your LoTW-manager here on the DX-Reflector. CH 4. Upload times are long and expensive. Well, it costs nothing in most parts of the world. CH 5. I am just set in my ways, a product of a maturing factor. Not a reason to make us spend our money on DHL or postal expenses of any kind. CH I am going to investigate the PayPal option, but it really smacks of CH commerce. Sure it does. -- 73...Art RX9TX http://rx9tx.qrz.ru Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves
At 07:47 PM 8/26/2007, Charles Harpole wrote: I have a USA mail drop... my son receives my mail that comes to his and my USA address, 4301 Jenkins Dr, Plano, and he periodically sends my mail to me Last month he spent $148 usd to send me a slim FedEx box and reports US post is also expensive and slower and depends on the local post office at the end of the line.. and the other UPS-like services say they dump their foreign mail into the foreign post offices many times. Couldn't this all be easily resolved by simply using a QSL manager in a country where the postal system is reliable? I regularly see notices from individuals offering their services for this purpose. As for LOTW, I suggest you rethink your position on that. I certainly was happy when BS7H showed up on LOTW last week. A little effort goes a long way. 73, Mike, W5UC age treachery will overcome youth skill http://www.suddenlink.net/pages/w5uc/ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves
At 10:15 AM 8/27/2007, Mike(W5UC) Kathy(K5MWH) wrote: At 07:47 PM 8/26/2007, Charles Harpole wrote: I have a USA mail drop... my son receives my mail that comes to his and my USA address, 4301 Jenkins Dr, Plano, and he periodically sends my mail to me Last month he spent $148 usd to send me a slim FedEx box and reports US post is also expensive and slower and depends on the local post office at the end of the line.. and the other UPS-like services say they dump their foreign mail into the foreign post offices many times. Couldn't this all be easily resolved by simply using a QSL manager in a country where the postal system is reliable? I regularly see notices from individuals offering their services for this purpose. As for LOTW, I suggest you rethink your position on that. I certainly was happy when BS7H showed up on LOTW last week. A little effort goes a long way. 73, Mike, W5UC I think this all boils down to more about trolling than QSLing, since none of the proposed options seems to be acceptable to the person posing the problems. John K5MO Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] Postal thieves
I studied my local postal thieves and concluded: A note about postal theft: Thieves who steal mail on a regular basis seek envelopes that form a pattern: (a) many similar ones to the same address, (b) thickness more than 1 paper sheet, and (c) from rich countries. Thieves doing this regularly can not be stopped by inserted carbon paper, valuables hidden inside inner envelopes, or other tricks because they simply open ALL envelopes fitting the pattern, take the valuables, and destroy the rest (thus destroying the evidence of their theft). Some thieves steal only for rare or odd stamps. Ham radio QSL mail makes a very easily identifiable pattern that simply can not be defeated by the usual tricks, so skip the tricks. Instead, try Registered Mail or, if desperate, use FedEx, UPS, or DHL. Even if you disguise your mail to look like an advertisement, the determined regular thieves may well steal EVERYTHING to an address known to get QSLs. It is highly unlikely that your one QSL envelope will be left untouched for theft by someone who rips open all the other QSL envelopes. Example, trying to make it harder on the thieves with tape does not stop theft, it only irritates the intended recipient if it does arrive. The lesson is that all our tricks are failures, with very rare exceptions. 73 Charles Harpole [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ See what youre getting into before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507 Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves
At 11:32 AM 8/26/2007, Art RX9TX wrote: Hello Charles, CH Instead, try Registered Mail or, if desperate, use FedEx, UPS, or CH DHL. Instead, how about uploading VU4AN/VU3CHE and HS0ZCW logs to LoTW? Last upload for HS0ZCW: 2004-04-16 07:01:06Z Last upload for VU4AN/VU3CHE: No log data found Or even a stateside manager or maybe a mail-drop if you prefer to answer the cards yourself. Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves
At 12:25 PM 8/26/2007, Peter Dougherty wrote: At 11:32 AM 8/26/2007, Art RX9TX wrote: Hello Charles, CH Instead, try Registered Mail or, if desperate, use FedEx, UPS, or CH DHL. Instead, how about uploading VU4AN/VU3CHE and HS0ZCW logs to LoTW? Last upload for HS0ZCW: 2004-04-16 07:01:06Z Last upload for VU4AN/VU3CHE: No log data found Or even a stateside manager or maybe a mail-drop if you prefer to answer the cards yourself. The stateside manager idea is a winner. John K5MO Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves
At 11:32 AM 8/26/2007, Art RX9TX wrote: Hello Charles, CH Instead, try Registered Mail or, if desperate, use FedEx, UPS, or CH DHL. Instead, how about uploading VU4AN/VU3CHE and HS0ZCW logs to LoTW? Last upload for HS0ZCW: 2004-04-16 07:01:06Z Last upload for VU4AN/VU3CHE: No log data found Or even a stateside manager or maybe a mail-drop if you prefer to answer the cards yourself. Or follow 5H3EE's very successfully and sensible lead using PayPal... Because I know your XYL likes to deal with the QSLs... Request on qrz.com that the QSL SAE is sent direct without cash and the postal money paid into your PAYPAL account. 73 Dave Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves
Excellent solution!! Saves everyone a lot of headaches. What'ca say Charles?? Garth, KW4MM - Original Message - From: Art RX9TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves Hello Charles, CH Instead, try Registered Mail or, if desperate, use FedEx, UPS, or CH DHL. Instead, how about uploading VU4AN/VU3CHE and HS0ZCW logs to LoTW? Last upload for HS0ZCW: 2004-04-16 07:01:06Z Last upload for VU4AN/VU3CHE: No log data found -- 73...Art RX9TX http://rx9tx.qrz.ru Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves
That option has been offered to Charles a number of times. I had offered to perform that task for him prior to his permanent move to Thailand several years ago. Dave, W5WP Garth wrote: Excellent solution!! Saves everyone a lot of headaches. What'ca say Charles?? Garth, KW4MM - Original Message - From: Art RX9TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 10:32 AM Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Postal thieves Hello Charles, CH Instead, try Registered Mail or, if desperate, use FedEx, UPS, or CH DHL. Instead, how about uploading VU4AN/VU3CHE and HS0ZCW logs to LoTW? Last upload for HS0ZCW: 2004-04-16 07:01:06Z Last upload for VU4AN/VU3CHE: No log data found -- 73...Art RX9TX http://rx9tx.qrz.ru Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
