[DX-CHAT] SL mamangers around the world in countries with reliable mail service willing to help

2008-11-15 Thread Barry

I sent a card to YU7GMN via buro in 2003 with no reply.

I've never sent a card to V51AS despite 20+ QSOs because he is a 
well-known QSL deadbeat.  I don't buy his bad mail service excuse.  It 
appears he's a graduate of the FR5DX School of QSLing - send just enough 
cards so people will keep trying, sending more green stamps each time.


If the mail service is, in fact, the problem, there are plenty of 
volunteer QSL managers around the world, in countries with reliable mail 
service, willing to help.  One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to 
know that's the way to go if the mail service is really the problem. 


There are DXpeditions of V5 every now and then.  Wait for one of those.

73,
Barry W2UP


DAVE WHITE wrote:

Hi Jerry, I never tried YU7GWN, but have received several QSLs from V51AS.
 
V51AS is a good QSLer.when he receives mail, so please don't blame 
him.
 
Unfortunately, as with much of Africa since the colonial powers left, 
countries descended into chaos, corruption and theft (go to Nigeria, 
it's a way of life there!).  We see this in the mail theft that 
routinely happens with mail to V51AS.  Sadly this has happened across 
the whole continent - they're not all as bad as Zimbabwe, but plenty 
are nearly there. Remember, $2 is often a weekly or monthly wage in 
Africa and Western aid $$$ end up in the current dictator's Swiss bank 
account.
 
If I can give any tips (they're old, well-known ones), it's

(1) Don't write callsigns or amateur radio etc on the envelope
(2) fold your green stamps inside your return envelope and make sure 
that this in turn is folded so that the contents aren't visible even 
if the corners of your envelope are lifted.  Insert it opening down.
(3) If you've not got a dark coloured QSL card, shove some carbon 
paper in there, so the contents aren't visible if it's held to the light
(4) try to fold the return envelope so it doesn't look like a return 
envelope - this is a dead giveaway.
 
Following these, I have a pretty decent return rate from V51AS
 
I'd be surprised if there are such mail problems in Serbia, but YU7GMN 
is a club station, so mail probably sits there for a while.  They're 
probably more interested in operating/antenna projects etc.  Do you 
know which op you worked?  You could probably try him???
 
Whilst we're on the subject, has anyone received QSLs from XE1KK?
 
Hope this helps.
 
cheers
 
Dave G0OIL


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Subject: [DX-CHAT] YU7GMN V51AS QSL's
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Date: Saturday, 15 November, 2008, 5:19 AM

Has anyone received QSL's from YU7GWN, or V51AS?
 
Thanks,
 
Jerry WWØE


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Re: [DX-CHAT] SL mamangers around the world in countries with reliable mail service willing to help

2008-11-15 Thread DAVE WHITE
Hi Barry, 
 
Strangely I've had no problems with FR5DX eitheronce I learned to write 
REUNION ISLAND, FRANCE, or VIA FRANCE on the envelope.  Don't let it go 
direct.  Our Gallic friends have a good post office.
 
However, I don't see why these guys don't use a QSL manager either. 
 
Have you ever travelled around Africa? I have a bit, but ask G3SXW, G3VMW or 
G0IAS to relate some REAL experiences :-)  It's a different world.  Really.
 
cheers
 
D


--- On Sat, 15/11/08, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

From: Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [DX-CHAT] SL mamangers around the world in countries with reliable 
mail service willing to help
To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
Date: Saturday, 15 November, 2008, 12:49 PM

I sent a card to YU7GMN via buro in 2003 with no reply.

I've never sent a card to V51AS despite 20+ QSOs because he is a 
well-known QSL deadbeat.  I don't buy his bad mail service
excuse.  It 
appears he's a graduate of the FR5DX School of QSLing - send just enough 
cards so people will keep trying, sending more green stamps each time.

If the mail service is, in fact, the problem, there are plenty of 
volunteer QSL managers around the world, in countries with reliable mail 
service, willing to help.  One doesn't have to be a rocket scientist to 
know that's the way to go if the mail service is really the problem. 

There are DXpeditions of V5 every now and then.  Wait for one of those.

73,
Barry W2UP


DAVE WHITE wrote:
 Hi Jerry, I never tried YU7GWN, but have received several QSLs from V51AS.
  
 V51AS is a good QSLer.when he receives mail, so please don't blame

 him.
  
 Unfortunately, as with much of Africa since the colonial powers left, 
 countries descended into chaos, corruption and theft (go to Nigeria, 
 it's a way of life there!).  We see this in the mail theft that 
 routinely happens with mail to V51AS.  Sadly this has happened across 
 the whole continent - they're not all as bad as Zimbabwe, but plenty 
 are nearly there. Remember, $2 is often a weekly or monthly wage in 
 Africa and Western aid $$$ end up in the current dictator's Swiss bank

 account.
  
 If I can give any tips (they're old, well-known ones), it's
 (1) Don't write callsigns or amateur radio etc on the
envelope
 (2) fold your green stamps inside your return envelope and make sure 
 that this in turn is folded so that the contents aren't visible even 
 if the corners of your envelope are lifted.  Insert it opening down.
 (3) If you've not got a dark coloured QSL card, shove some carbon 
 paper in there, so the contents aren't visible if it's held to the
light
 (4) try to fold the return envelope so it doesn't look like a return 
 envelope - this is a dead giveaway.
  
 Following these, I have a pretty decent return rate from V51AS
  
 I'd be surprised if there are such mail problems in Serbia, but YU7GMN

 is a club station, so mail probably sits there for a while.  They're 
 probably more interested in operating/antenna projects etc.  Do you 
 know which op you worked?  You could probably try him???
  
 Whilst we're on the subject, has anyone received QSLs from XE1KK?
  
 Hope this helps.
  
 cheers
  
 Dave G0OIL

 --- On *Sat, 15/11/08, Jerry Rappel /[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote:

 From: Jerry Rappel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [DX-CHAT] YU7GMN V51AS QSL's
 To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
 Date: Saturday, 15 November, 2008, 5:19 AM

 Has anyone received QSL's from YU7GWN, or V51AS?
  
 Thanks,
  
 Jerry WWØE

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