[DX-CHAT] V51AS QSL'ing
Gentle Folk: Before this gets further out of hand... let's tone this down or take it elsewhere. V51AS has a known mail theft problem. He is NOT a well-known QSL deadbeat because he answers every card he gets; I've certainly never had a problem getting cards from him. Has he been stubborn about getting a mail drop and resistant to getting a QSL manager? Yes, but without knowing his side of the story, I am reluctant to criticize him on it. And in all fairness, he did get the German mail drop set up, which I understand has worked reliably since doing so. Has it occurred to anyone that the mail thieves may be on to that now? Personally insulting the man does not help matters. And it is not in the spirit of the nature of this reflector. If you have a gripe or other concerns about QSL'ing in general, or QSL'ing Frank in particular, the DX QSL reflector is the place to go. You will find plenty of help and suggestions there. But if you can't keep it civil, don't bring it here. Thank you for your understanding. 73, ron w3wn administrator, dx chat --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS QSL'ing
Right on Ron. Frank has worked very hard to overcome the QSL theft problem (both incoming and outgoing). I had a personal experience where there was a date error on a card he received from me and he emailed me to question the error. Now that's service! Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX ARRL DXCC Card Checker VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-6520 ve6lb (at) telus (dot) net www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ - Original Message - From: Ron Notarius W3WN To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 6:27 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] V51AS QSL'ing Gentle Folk: Before this gets further out of hand... let's tone this down or take it elsewhere. V51AS has a known mail theft problem. He is NOT a well-known QSL deadbeat because he answers every card he gets; I've certainly never had a problem getting cards from him. Has he been stubborn about getting a mail drop and resistant to getting a QSL manager? Yes, but without knowing his side of the story, I am reluctant to criticize him on it. And in all fairness, he did get the German mail drop set up, which I understand has worked reliably since doing so. Has it occurred to anyone that the mail thieves may be on to that now? Personally insulting the man does not help matters. And it is not in the spirit of the nature of this reflector. If you have a gripe or other concerns about QSL'ing in general, or QSL'ing Frank in particular, the DX QSL reflector is the place to go. You will find plenty of help and suggestions there. But if you can't keep it civil, don't bring it here. Thank you for your understanding. 73, ron w3wn administrator, dx chat --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --- --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org ---
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
Frank said he was having many troubles with the mail. I checked my log and see where I had to mail via Registered International mail to get his needed card. That was 23 Feb 2006. I received his card with all QSO's on 4 April 2006. I did include the usual IRC, GS and SAE since I doubt any previous mail arrived at his box. This was after sending the previous QSL's with IRC and GS without a reply over a few years. The address is the same as on QRZ today. FRANK STEINHAUSER BOX 2516 SWAKOPMUND NAMIBIA My note in the log indicates his QSL came via K4RX. The German address appears to be the alternate route as of Feb 2007. Steinhauser, Schlobstr. 68A, 82140 Olching, Germany Frank does have a nice QSL card. Good Luck! 73, Tony N2MFT On 8/1/07, N8NN [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I made four direct mailings to V51AS, all complete with IRCs and green stamps. About three years later I received QSLs via the Buro for 8 of 9 QSOs. I'm guessing he gets ripped off at the post office and thus is forced to return QSLs via the Buro. I suppose the volume of mail (and $$$) he gets is well known to the post office, making him a good target. The German mail drop should be a better route than direct mailing. In my experience V51AS does QSL if you can get a card to him. Bert N8NN - Original Message - From: Malcolm Keown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] V51AS Anybody received a QSL from V51AS via the German mail drop? Best 73 de W5XX Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
[DX-CHAT] V51AS
Anybody received a QSL from V51AS via the German mail drop? Best 73 de W5XX No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/07 5:02 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
I made four direct mailings to V51AS, all complete with IRCs and green stamps. About three years later I received QSLs via the Buro for 8 of 9 QSOs. I'm guessing he gets ripped off at the post office and thus is forced to return QSLs via the Buro. I suppose the volume of mail (and $$$) he gets is well known to the post office, making him a good target. The German mail drop should be a better route than direct mailing. In my experience V51AS does QSL if you can get a card to him. Bert N8NN - Original Message - From: Malcolm Keown [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2007 10:07 PM Subject: [DX-CHAT] V51AS Anybody received a QSL from V51AS via the German mail drop? Best 73 de W5XX No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.0/927 - Release Date: 7/30/07 5:02 PM Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
QSL V51AS --- The new QSL route [425DXN 823] should be all right effective 10 March. Send your cards to Frank Steinhauser, Schlossstr. 68A, 82140 Olching, Germany and be prepared to wait a bit: this is not a QSL manager, so it may be up to four months before you will hear back from Frank, but it is a reliable route. [TNX WE7K] Richard Diddams wrote: Does V51AS respond to QSL cards? I noticed he has had over 67,000 hits on QRZ.COM. I've worked him on a couple of bands and sent registered mailed (with green stamps) and no response. Does he have a mail problem and it doesn't get to him? Anyone else having difficulty receiving QSLs from V51AS? 73, Dick - W7QHE -- Ronald Loneker Sr.- KA2BZS #1DXCC Honor Roll - 9BDXCC A-1 Op - QCWA http://www.cwforever.com
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
That's what he would like us to believe. Personsally, I don't believe it. If mail theft is such a problem for him, why hasn't he accepted one of the many offers from potential QSL managers? If you need a V5 confirmation, wait for a DXpedition rather than throwing money away QSLing V51AS. Barry, W2UP DAVE WHITE wrote: Frank is a very good QSLer - however he has a problem with mail theft. Don't make your envelope look anything like ham radio, so don't mention callsigns, fold any dollar bills in black paper etc. Even better send recorded. Regards Dave G0OIL */Richard Diddams [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Does V51AS respond to QSL cards? I noticed he has had over 67,000 hits on QRZ.COM. I've worked him on a couple of bands and sent registered mailed (with green stamps) and no response. Does he have a mail problem and it doesn't get to him? Anyone else having difficulty receiving QSLs from V51AS? 73, Dick - W7QHE -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
I have a 100 percent return rate from V51AS because I follow a few simple guidelines laid out below. In any case, apparently he now has a QSL drop in Germany. Dave Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what he would like us to believe. Personsally, I don't believe it. If mail theft is such a problem for him, why hasn't he accepted one of the many offers from potential QSL managers? If you need a V5 confirmation, wait for a DXpedition rather than throwing money away QSLing V51AS. Barry, W2UP DAVE WHITE wrote: Frank is a very good QSLer - however he has a problem with mail theft. Don't make your envelope look anything like ham radio, so don't mention callsigns, fold any dollar bills in black paper etc. Even better send recorded. Regards Dave G0OIL Richard Diddams [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does V51AS respond to QSL cards? I noticed he has had over 67,000 hits on QRZ.COM. I've worked him on a couple of bands and sent registered mailed (with green stamps) and no response. Does he have a mail problem and it doesn't get to him? Anyone else having difficulty receiving QSLs from V51AS? 73, Dick - W7QHE -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA
[DX-CHAT] V51AS
Does V51AS respond to QSL cards? I noticed he has had over 67,000 hits on QRZ.COM. I've worked him on a couple of bands and sent registered mailed (with green stamps) and no response. Does he have a mail problem and it doesn't get to him? Anyone else having difficulty receiving QSLs from V51AS? 73, Dick - W7QHE
Re[2]: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
Hello DX-chat, I agree with Barry, why should we all spend additional 8 dollars for registered mail while there are plenty of volunteers in countries with reliable mail service? I regret I can't wait for another V51 operation, that is my only V5 on 80 m for many years. DW To W2UP: I think that it's unreasonable of you to publicly flame DW one man as the problem. Perhaps Frank wants to carry out his own DW QSLing, as perhaps that's a part of the hobby that he wants to DW enjoy. I think you should be more thoughtful before opening your DW big mouth to criticise someone you probably don't know and spend DW less time dictating how other people should live their lives. DW Dave G0OIL Yes, Frank is the problem. Frank is the problem because he knows (or claims) that mail is unreliable in his country. Frank should engage the services of a QSL manager in a country with reliable mail service. There are always plenty of volunteers. Guys like him have no excuse. My advice is work someone else. V5 isn't that rare. 73, Barry -- 73...Art RX9TX http://rx9tx.qrz.ru Life is a mystery to be lived, not a problem to be solved.(Van Kaam) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
Art, I've never had a problem getting cards back from Frank. The BIG problem is, he doesn't get them due to mail theft. He QSLs 100% when he gets them. There is also a theft problem on outgoing mail. Gerry Gerry Hohn TelWest Consulting Services (403) 251-6520 - office (403) 803-8170 - cell (403) 251-0384 - fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.telusplanet.net/public/telwest/home.htm - Original Message - From: Art RX9TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DX-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Thursday, April 13, 2006 9:21 AM Subject: [DX-CHAT] V51AS Hello DX-chat, Gents, what one should do to get a card from V51AS? Looks like this guy believes 2 USD is not enough for him, so my second direct request is unanswered. Nayone had luck with him lately? -- 73...Art RX9TX http://rx9tx.qrz.ru In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. (Yogi Berra) Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
My direct QSL with GS's and SAE sent on 29/3/04 was answered via the bureau 20/9/2004. --- Art RX9TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello DX-chat, Gents, what one should do to get a card from V51AS? Looks like this guy believes 2 USD is not enough for him, so my second direct request is unanswered. Nayone had luck with him lately? __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
I never tried to get a card from Frank becaue I already have that one confirmed many times. There have been several contest operations from there, one even by some of our local Society of Midwest Contesters gang. I'll bet there are more in the future. I know the W9's who went there are good QSL'ers. Keep your eyes open for other operations from there. 73, Zack W9SZ On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Art RX9TX wrote: Hello DX-chat, Gents, what one should do to get a card from V51AS? Looks like this guy believes 2 USD is not enough for him, so my second direct request is unanswered. Nayone had luck with him lately? Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
Yes, Frank is the problem. Frank is the problem because he knows (or claims) that mail is unreliable in his country. Frank should engage the services of a QSL manager in a country with reliable mail service. There are always plenty of volunteers. Guys like him have no excuse. My advice is work someone else. V5 isn't that rare. 73, Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank isn't the problem. When he gets the request, he takes care of it in short order. The mail getting to from Frank is the problem. I got my card from him in relatively short order, but if I remember correctly, I used an envelope from my previous employer, so it looked like an official letter from an engineering company, not a personal letter from a ham. Worth a try... 73 From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Apr 13 10:59:00 CDT 2006 To: Art RX9TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: DX-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS I never tried to get a card from Frank becaue I already have that one confirmed many times. There have been several contest operations from there, one even by some of our local Society of Midwest Contesters gang. I'll bet there are more in the future. I know the W9's who went there are good QSL'ers. Keep your eyes open for other operations from there. 73, Zack W9SZ On Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Art RX9TX wrote: Hello DX-chat, Gents, what one should do to get a card from V51AS? Looks like this guy believes 2 USD is not enough for him, so my second direct request is unanswered. Nayone had luck with him lately? Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
I've had *NO* problems QSLing with Frank, though the mail to most African countriesis rather unreliable these days. If a QSL goes missing, send another, though disguise it a bit better. You can afford another green stamp.To W2UP: I think that it's unreasonable ofyou to publicly flame one man as the problem. PerhapsFrank wants to carry out his own QSLing, as perhaps that's a part of the hobby that he wants to enjoy.I think you should be more thoughtful before opening your big mouth tocriticisesomeone you probably don't knowand spend less time dictating how other people should live their lives.Regards Dave G0OILBarry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, Frank is the problem. Frank is the problem because he knows (or claims) that mail is unreliable in his country. Frank should engage the services of a QSL manager in a country with reliable mail service. There are always plenty of volunteers. Guys like him have no excuse.My advice is work someone else. V5 isn't that rare.73,Barry[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank isn't the problem. When he gets the request, he takes care of it in short order.The mail getting to from Frank is the problem.I got my card from him in relatively short order, but if I remember correctly, I used an envelope from my previous employer, so it looked like an official letter from an engineering company, not a personal letter from a ham. Worth a try...73 From: Zack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu Apr 13 10:59:00 CDT 2006 To: Art RX9TX [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: DX-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS I never tried to get a card from Frank becaue I already have that one confirmed many times. There have been several contest operations from there, one even by some of our local Society of Midwest Contesters gang. I'll bet there are more in the future. I know the W9's who went there are good QSL'ers. Keep your eyes open for other operations from there.73, Zack W9SZOn Thu, 13 Apr 2006, Art RX9TX wrote: Hello DX-chat, Gents, what one should do to get a card from V51AS? Looks like thisguy believes 2 USD is not enough for him, so my second directrequest is unanswered. Nayone had luck with him lately?Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.orgSubscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org-- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
Dave, Not all of us are made of money, so you might want to reconsider your belief that we all can afford another green stamp. You might also want to notch down the aggression a little. Barry is entitled to his opinion. I don't waste time or money sending QSL requests to most African countries. 73, Scott, N9AA DAVE WHITE wrote: I've had *NO* problems QSLing with Frank, though the mail to most African countries is rather unreliable these days. If a QSL goes missing, send another, though disguise it a bit better. You can afford another green stamp. To W2UP: I think that it's unreasonable of you to publicly flame one man as the problem. Perhaps Frank wants to carry out his own QSLing, as perhaps that's a part of the hobby that he wants to enjoy. I think you should be more thoughtful before opening your big mouth to criticise someone you probably don't know and spend less time dictating how other people should live their lives. Regards Dave G0OIL */Barry [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: Yes, Frank is the problem. Frank is the problem because he knows (or claims) that mail is unreliable in his country. Frank should engage the services of a QSL manager in a country with reliable mail service. There are always plenty of volunteers. Guys like him have no excuse. My advice is work someone else. V5 isn't that rare. 73, Barry Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] V51AS
Excellent advice!DaveZack Widup [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my favorite methods is to put my QSL inside the return envelope inside my envelope to overseas. My SAE's are smaller and just fit inside the larger #10 envelopes.Then I cut a piece of carbon paper just barely smaller than the inside of the #10 envelope (the larger one) and put it inside so the carbon is facing away from my smaller envelope (so it doesn't get smudged).This prevents people from "candling" the envelopes to see inside. You just can't see through the carbon paper.This has worked well for me. Of course, I never put ham callsigns on the outside of the envelope and I have the post office put on a printed (metered) postage sticker instead of a stamp when I can.73, Zack W9SZSubscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chatTo post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.orgThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
