Re: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals
LA5HE Ragnar Otterstad wrote: On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: Word is that they're using an FT-1000MP and an FT-2000MP. They have an amp (a Fin Fet which I've never heard of before). And their antenna system is all verticals. Sounds like something custom made for Martti? You sure it's not Finn FET? :-) --- This is a very wellknown amplifier, lightweight and pretty much state-of-the-art manufactured by veteran DX-epditioneer Pekka's company. 73 and MX Rag LA5HE Finn Fet has been around for years. They used to have a web site, but I can't find it now. I bought my first Acom amp from them in the late 90s, prior to there being a US distributor. Barry W2UP -- Barry Kutner, W2UP Newtown, PA Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals
A beauty of a signal on 40m this morning. Excellent operation w/great CW ops Heard the other FJ group up on 20SSB as well. John K5MO Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals
See web site for more info re Fin Fet Amplifier (500w) http://www.scribd.com/doc/42627/AMPLIFICADOR-DE-500-W-EA1KO 73, Dick - W7QHE = [Original Message] From: Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: DX Chat Reflector dx-chat@njdxa.org Date: 12/22/2007 5:17:24 AM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals Word is that they're using an FT-1000MP and an FT-2000MP. They have an amp (a Fin Fet which I've never heard of before). And their antenna system is all verticals. Superb signal, and Ollie and Martti are exactly what you'd expect them to be (although their splits do tend to be a touch wide for my tastes, but what do I know?) 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of DAVE WHITE Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 5:02 AM To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals Hi all, Does anyone know what Olli and Martti are running from FJ? They've been putting a truly magnificent signal into this part of the world, certainly a change from the half-a-watt-into-a-wet-string expeditions. They're currently (10am) coming in at 20db over 9 on 40m cw and were a big S9 on 20m SSB last night. Excellent, efficient operation too! cheers Dave G0OIL Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals
Don't know what equipment they're using but I think they have verticals on the beach. I'll bet they're running a kW though. Their signal has been superb here, too. What really impresses me is that Olli just works EU right through the USA wall on CW. Maybe he has very narrow filters. He will work a bunch of USA, then a bunch of EU, then a bunch of USA ... without saying EU only. Truly amazing! He was going so fast last night that I guess he made everyone reasonably happy. There was little or no jamming here. Just the usual clueless people who called him on his frequency for a while, then gave up. When they left, so did the DX cops. 73, Zack W9SZ On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, DAVE WHITE wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know what Olli and Martti are running from FJ? They've been putting a truly magnificent signal into this part of the world, certainly a change from the half-a-watt-into-a-wet-string expeditions. They're currently (10am) coming in at 20db over 9 on 40m cw and were a big S9 on 20m SSB last night. Excellent, efficient operation too! cheers Dave G0OIL Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals
On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: Word is that they're using an FT-1000MP and an FT-2000MP. They have an amp (a Fin Fet which I've never heard of before). And their antenna system is all verticals. Sounds like something custom made for Martti? You sure it's not Finn FET? :-) Superb signal, and Ollie and Martti are exactly what you'd expect them to be (although their splits do tend to be a touch wide for my tastes, but what do I know?) 73 The 40m CW splits haven't been too bad. Last night they were transmitting on 7004 and the lowest I heard them work was 7006 (me), the highest was 7015 with the average being between 7007 and 7013. I don't think 6 kHz is too much to demand for an operation of this magnitude. I just thought of an interesting question. We all have experienced the DX cops who chide people who QRM or transmit on the DX frequency. I wonder if these DX cops are people who haven't worked them yet - in other words, does a particular DX cop disappear once he's worked them in the pileup? Food for thought on a drizzly, foggy day ... 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals
AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zack Widup Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:49 PM To: Ron Notarius W3WN Cc: DX Chat Reflector Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals snip I just thought of an interesting question. We all have experienced the DX cops who chide people who QRM or transmit on the DX frequency. I wonder if these DX cops are people who haven't worked them yet - in other words, does a particular DX cop disappear once he's worked them in the pileup? Food for thought on a drizzly, foggy day ... My experience is that DX cops think they are helping. The longer someone calls on the DX frequency, the more strident the cops become. But someone calling on the DX frequency, is more likely to be on the wrong VFO than cluelessly operating simplex, so a cop sending up up up is doing nothing but making the problem worse. Over the past couple of DXpeditions -- including this FJ operation -- I've experimented with reducing QRM on the DX frequency by posting a spot whose notes contain a message to the offending station, e.g. DX FJ/OH2AM 7005 KC6IGZ wrong VFO! Each time I've tried this, the offending station has quickly stopped sending on the DX frequency, and the cops then quieted down. My sample size is small to be sure, but there's no downside. Give it a try! 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zack Widup Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:49 PM To: Ron Notarius W3WN Cc: DX Chat Reflector Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote: Word is that they're using an FT-1000MP and an FT-2000MP. They have an amp (a Fin Fet which I've never heard of before). And their antenna system is all verticals. Sounds like something custom made for Martti? You sure it's not Finn FET? :-) Superb signal, and Ollie and Martti are exactly what you'd expect them to be (although their splits do tend to be a touch wide for my tastes, but what do I know?) 73 The 40m CW splits haven't been too bad. Last night they were transmitting on 7004 and the lowest I heard them work was 7006 (me), the highest was 7015 with the average being between 7007 and 7013. I don't think 6 kHz is too much to demand for an operation of this magnitude. I just thought of an interesting question. We all have experienced the DX cops who chide people who QRM or transmit on the DX frequency. I wonder if these DX cops are people who haven't worked them yet - in other words, does a particular DX cop disappear once he's worked them in the pileup? Food for thought on a drizzly, foggy day ... 73, Zack W9SZ Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals
One thing that's pretty obvious, especially if you keep an eye on the cluster while trying to work them, is that their pattern is -- no pattern! Based on the spots alone, they'll work someone transmitting on 7015, then 7021, then 7012, etc. ... up and down within the announced listening range. My guess is that they don't linger on a particular frequency for more than a QSO or two. That defeats anyone trying to jam up their receiver. It also may mean that when they QSY, they quickly hunt a clear signal on the band, and when the cluster watchers QSY to that frequency, they vacate others which now have a clear signal to work. Maddening to those who try to match a pattern. But the best strategy may just be to pick A frequency and stick to it, and wait for surrounding traffic to clear away. Add superb operators with great filters, and given enough time, you'll work them! 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zack Widup Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:34 PM To: DAVE WHITE Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals Don't know what equipment they're using but I think they have verticals on the beach. I'll bet they're running a kW though. Their signal has been superb here, too. What really impresses me is that Olli just works EU right through the USA wall on CW. Maybe he has very narrow filters. He will work a bunch of USA, then a bunch of EU, then a bunch of USA ... without saying EU only. Truly amazing! He was going so fast last night that I guess he made everyone reasonably happy. There was little or no jamming here. Just the usual clueless people who called him on his frequency for a while, then gave up. When they left, so did the DX cops. 73, Zack W9SZ On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, DAVE WHITE wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know what Olli and Martti are running from FJ? They've been putting a truly magnificent signal into this part of the world, certainly a change from the half-a-watt-into-a-wet-string expeditions. They're currently (10am) coming in at 20db over 9 on 40m cw and were a big S9 on 20m SSB last night. Excellent, efficient operation too! cheers Dave G0OIL Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org
Re: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals
I wouldn't pay much attention to the spot pattern. They are invariably well behind real time and are incomplete. I find Olli (CW) generally moves up the band a few hundred cycles to 1 khz (depending on QRM) per QSO and back down again when there are a lot of callers. Today on 17, he sat on 1 frequency plus/minus a few hundred cycles for at least 10 minutes before the QRM started him moving again. Gerry VE6LB/VA6XDX DXCC Field Checker-Southern Alberta VE/VA6 QSL Bureau Team (403) 251-0384 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.qsl.net/ve6lb/ - Original Message - From: Ron Notarius W3WN [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: dx-chat@njdxa.org Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 3:05 PM Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals One thing that's pretty obvious, especially if you keep an eye on the cluster while trying to work them, is that their pattern is -- no pattern! Based on the spots alone, they'll work someone transmitting on 7015, then 7021, then 7012, etc. ... up and down within the announced listening range. My guess is that they don't linger on a particular frequency for more than a QSO or two. That defeats anyone trying to jam up their receiver. It also may mean that when they QSY, they quickly hunt a clear signal on the band, and when the cluster watchers QSY to that frequency, they vacate others which now have a clear signal to work. Maddening to those who try to match a pattern. But the best strategy may just be to pick A frequency and stick to it, and wait for surrounding traffic to clear away. Add superb operators with great filters, and given enough time, you'll work them! 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Zack Widup Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2007 1:34 PM To: DAVE WHITE Cc: dx-chat@njdxa.org Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] FJ/OH2AM signals Don't know what equipment they're using but I think they have verticals on the beach. I'll bet they're running a kW though. Their signal has been superb here, too. What really impresses me is that Olli just works EU right through the USA wall on CW. Maybe he has very narrow filters. He will work a bunch of USA, then a bunch of EU, then a bunch of USA ... without saying EU only. Truly amazing! He was going so fast last night that I guess he made everyone reasonably happy. There was little or no jamming here. Just the usual clueless people who called him on his frequency for a while, then gave up. When they left, so did the DX cops. 73, Zack W9SZ On Sat, 22 Dec 2007, DAVE WHITE wrote: Hi all, Does anyone know what Olli and Martti are running from FJ? They've been putting a truly magnificent signal into this part of the world, certainly a change from the half-a-watt-into-a-wet-string expeditions. They're currently (10am) coming in at 20db over 9 on 40m cw and were a big S9 on 20m SSB last night. Excellent, efficient operation too! cheers Dave G0OIL Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org Subscribe/unsubscribe, feedback, FAQ, problems http://njdxa.org/dx-chat To post a message, DX related items only, dx-chat@njdxa.org This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org