Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Robinson
 
Makes me glad that I am building a 40m four square.


Mark N1UK
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dennis Kopecky 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, 15 June, 2011 10:18 AM
  Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading



  Ugh, that's just more dipoles and verticals with little or no gain or 
directivity. But really, 40M was once again beautiful, now that its without the 
foreign broadcasters ! What's a kid on a city-lot to do ?
   
  73, Dennis, W2IU

   
   Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:39:43 -0500
   Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading
   From: w9sz.z...@gmail.com
   To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
   
   
   Tweak up those low band antennas!
   
   73, Zack W9SZ
   
   
   On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins bhw...@hughes.net wrote:
   
I thought we just came out of that!
Bill W5EC
   
BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big 
Drop
in Solar Activity
The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made 
a
major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way out
and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
   
From Space.com reporting from the conference:
   
Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
preparing to be less active in the coming years.
   
The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the 
current
sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading 
into
a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle
greatly reduced or even eliminated.
   
Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 
and
is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the
recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar 
cycle,
Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are 
questioning
whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, 
which
was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
sunspots.
   
   
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Zack Widup

Tweak up those low band antennas!

73, Zack W9SZ


On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins bhw...@hughes.net wrote:

 I thought we just came out of that!
 Bill W5EC

 BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop
 in Solar Activity
 The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made a
 major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way out
 and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.

 From Space.com reporting from the conference:

 Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
 magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
 preparing to be less active in the coming years.

 The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current
 sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into
 a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle
 greatly reduced or even eliminated.

 Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 and
 is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the
 recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar cycle,
 Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are questioning
 whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, which
 was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
 sunspots.


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread David Yarnes


Now, why would you say that?  Are you even remotely qualified, on either 
topic, to make such a definitive statement?  I hardly think so.


Dave W7AQK


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From: Barry w...@comcast.net

To: w9sz.z...@gmail.com
Cc: dx-chat dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading




This prediction is up there with the global warming nuts - trying to use 
~400 years of data to predict the behavior of something with a 6 billion 
year history.

Barry W2UP

On 6/15/2011 7:39 AM, Zack Widup wrote:

Tweak up those low band antennas!

73, Zack W9SZ


On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkinsbhw...@hughes.net  wrote:

I thought we just came out of that!
Bill W5EC

BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big 
Drop

in Solar Activity
The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just 
made a
major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way 
out

and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.

 From Space.com reporting from the conference:

Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
preparing to be less active in the coming years.

The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the 
current
sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading 
into
a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot 
cycle

greatly reduced or even eliminated.

Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 
and
is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, 
the
recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar 
cycle,
Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are 
questioning
whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, 
which

was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
sunspots.


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RE: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Dennis Kopecky
 

While I recognize that there are some very well equiped stations, as regards 
tweaking up those low band antennas, and I envy some of those who have been 
able to erect those 80M beams and the technical abilities that show up on 160M, 
the bulk of the people who I've found enjoying both local and dx qso's are 
using antennas simpler than beams, quads, and other very directional antennas: 
you don't see very many rhombics put up by us hams, and I especially admire 
ON4UN, John Devoldere's treatment of low band dxing. Sure I agree that one can 
put together a directional, phased vertical array, not all of us have the real 
estate to do it. So while I appreciate your thoughts, I have to go with what 
I've seen with many of my friends, that the statement I made is, for the most 
part, true. (And I presume, you have no problem with my statement regarding 40M 
w/o broadcast stations?).
 
73, Dennis, W2IU

 
 From: w7...@cox.net
 To: w...@comcast.net; w9sz.z...@gmail.com
 CC: dx-chat@njdxa.org
 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading
 Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:50:44 -0700
 
 
 Now, why would you say that? Are you even remotely qualified, on either 
 topic, to make such a definitive statement? I hardly think so.
 
 Dave W7AQK
 
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: Barry w...@comcast.net
 To: w9sz.z...@gmail.com
 Cc: dx-chat dx-chat@njdxa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:15 AM
 Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading
 
 
 
  This prediction is up there with the global warming nuts - trying to use 
  ~400 years of data to predict the behavior of something with a 6 billion 
  year history.
  Barry W2UP
 
  On 6/15/2011 7:39 AM, Zack Widup wrote:
  Tweak up those low band antennas!
 
  73, Zack W9SZ
 
 
  On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkinsbhw...@hughes.net wrote:
  I thought we just came out of that!
  Bill W5EC
 
  BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big 
  Drop
  in Solar Activity
  The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just 
  made a
  major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way 
  out
  and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
 
  From Space.com reporting from the conference:
 
  Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
  magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
  preparing to be less active in the coming years.
 
  The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the 
  current
  sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading 
  into
  a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot 
  cycle
  greatly reduced or even eliminated.
 
  Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 
  and
  is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, 
  the
  recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar 
  cycle,
  Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are 
  questioning
  whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, 
  which
  was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
  sunspots.
 
 
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Ryan Jairam

Call me crazy but I liked it better when sunspots were sparse. You really
appreciated when some of the higher bands opened up. When 15 opened up the
bands went crazy!

Ryan, N2RJ

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote:


 Tweak up those low band antennas!

 73, Zack W9SZ


 On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins bhw...@hughes.net wrote:
 
  I thought we just came out of that!
  Bill W5EC
 
  BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big
 Drop
  in Solar Activity
  The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made
 a
  major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way
 out
  and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
 
  From Space.com reporting from the conference:
 
  Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
  magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
  preparing to be less active in the coming years.
 
  The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the
 current
  sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading
 into
  a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot
 cycle
  greatly reduced or even eliminated.
 
  Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24
 and
  is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the
  recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar
 cycle,
  Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are
 questioning
  whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum,
 which
  was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
  sunspots.
 
 
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Barry


Thank you, Jim
Barry W2UP

On 6/15/2011 9:36 AM, James Nipper wrote:

He is just saying that we frequently see nutty predictions  based on
non-science, with global warming being the biggest of the scams.


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Don Berger


can we act like adults and keep this to DX rather than dismissive personal 
biases?
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To: James Nipper ja...@jamesnipper.com
Cc: w7...@cox.net; w9sz.z...@gmail.com; 'dx-chat' dx-chat@njdxa.org
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading




Thank you, Jim
Barry W2UP

On 6/15/2011 9:36 AM, James Nipper wrote:

He is just saying that we frequently see nutty predictions  based on
non-science, with global warming being the biggest of the scams.


Jim   K4PYT




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Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN
That may well be Ryan, but a LITTLE propagation every now and then on the high bands is a good thing! (Especially the 2nd full weekend in December)Personally, I just want to complete 12 meter DXCC (about 30 confirms to go) before the band dies out completely again!73, ron w3wnOn 06/15/11, Ryan Jairamrjai...@gmail.com wrote:Call me crazy but I liked it better when sunspots were sparse. You really appreciated when some of the higher bands opened up. When 15 opened up the bands went crazy!Ryan, N2RJOn Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote:Tweak up those low band antennas!73, Zack W9SZOn 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins bhw...@hughes.net wrote: I thought we just came out of that! Bill W5EC BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop in Solar Activity The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made a major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way out and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon. From Space.com reporting from the conference: Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is preparing to be less active in the coming years. The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle greatly reduced or even eliminated. Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 and is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar cycle, Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are questioning whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, which was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no sunspots. --- To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message to imail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chat or subscribe dx-chat This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org --To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.orgIn the message body put eitherunsubscribe dx-chatorsubscribe dx-chatThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org- Ryan A. Jairam,---To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chator subscribe dx-chatThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org--- 

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Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Ryan Jairam

Well that's what I meant... a little propagation but I can't say I enjoy
the bands much when it's easy to work everything all the time.

Of course none of us have control over propagation, just our stations.

Ryan, N2RJ

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wn3...@verizon.netwrote:


 That may well be Ryan, but a LITTLE propagation every now and then on the
 high bands is a good thing!  (Especially the 2nd full weekend in December)

 Personally, I just want to complete 12 meter DXCC (about 30 confirms to go)
 before the band dies out completely again!

 73, ron w3wn


 On 06/15/11, Ryan Jairamrjai...@gmail.com wrote:

 Call me crazy but I liked it better when sunspots were sparse. You really
 appreciated when some of the higher bands opened up. When 15 opened up the
 bands went crazy!

 Ryan, N2RJ

 On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Zack Widup w9sz.z...@gmail.com wrote:


 Tweak up those low band antennas!

 73, Zack W9SZ


 On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins bhw...@hughes.net wrote:
 
  I thought we just came out of that!
  Bill W5EC
 
  BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big
 Drop
  in Solar Activity
  The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just
 made a
  major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way
 out
  and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
 
  From Space.com reporting from the conference:
 
  Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
  magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
  preparing to be less active in the coming years.
 
  The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the
 current
  sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading
 into
  a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot
 cycle
  greatly reduced or even eliminated.
 
  Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24
 and
  is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However,
 the
  recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar
 cycle,
  Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are
 questioning
  whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum,
 which
  was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
  sunspots.
 
 
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Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Don Berger
 

  Remember one thing folks-
  if it were not for the solar minimums, Dxing would be equivalent to calling 
the s pacific, africa, asia, etc on your cell phone, perhaps even a bit less 
challenging.
  The most challenging and enjoyable dx memories I have occurred in low flux 
condition.
  73 K1VSK

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Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread john


The low bands will be GREAT!

John K5MO



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