Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-24 Thread Mark Robinson 
 
Makes me glad that I am building a 40m four square.


Mark N1UK
  - Original Message - 
  From: Dennis Kopecky 
  To: dx-chat@njdxa.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, 15 June, 2011 10:18 AM
  Subject: RE: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading



  Ugh, that's just more dipoles and verticals with little or no gain or 
directivity. But really, 40M was once again beautiful, now that its without the 
foreign broadcasters ! What's a kid on a city-lot to do ?
   
  73, Dennis, W2IU

   
  > Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:39:43 -0500
  > Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading
  > From: w9sz.z...@gmail.com
  > To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
  > 
  > 
  > Tweak up those low band antennas!
  > 
  > 73, Zack W9SZ
  > 
  > 
  > On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins  wrote:
  > >
  > > I thought we just came out of that!
  > > Bill W5EC
  > >
  > > BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big 
Drop
  > > in Solar Activity
  > > The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made 
a
  > > major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way out
  > > and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
  > >
  > > From Space.com reporting from the conference:
  > >
  > > Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
  > > magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
  > > preparing to be less active in the coming years.
  > >
  > > The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the 
current
  > > sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading 
into
  > > a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle
  > > greatly reduced or even eliminated.
  > >
  > > Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 
and
  > > is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the
  > > recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar 
cycle,
  > > Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are 
questioning
  > > whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, 
which
  > > was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
  > > sunspots.
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Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread john 


The low bands will be GREAT!

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Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Don Berger 
 

  Remember one thing folks-
  if it were not for the solar minimums, Dxing would be equivalent to calling 
the s pacific, africa, asia, etc on your cell phone, perhaps even a bit less 
challenging.
  The most challenging and enjoyable dx memories I have occurred in low flux 
condition.
  73 K1VSK

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Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Ryan Jairam 

Well that's what I meant... a "little" propagation but I can't say I enjoy
the bands much when it's easy to work everything all the time.

Of course none of us have control over propagation, just our stations.

Ryan, N2RJ

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 1:59 PM, Ron Notarius W3WN wrote:

>
> That may well be Ryan, but a LITTLE propagation every now and then on the
> high bands is a good thing!  (Especially the 2nd full weekend in December)
>
> Personally, I just want to complete 12 meter DXCC (about 30 confirms to go)
> before the band dies out completely again!
>
> 73, ron w3wn
>
>
> On 06/15/11, Ryan Jairam wrote:
>
> Call me crazy but I liked it better when sunspots were sparse. You really
> appreciated when some of the higher bands opened up. When 15 opened up the
> bands went crazy!
>
> Ryan, N2RJ
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Zack Widup  wrote:
>
>>
>> Tweak up those low band antennas!
>>
>> 73, Zack W9SZ
>>
>>
>> On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins  wrote:
>> >
>> > I thought we just came out of that!
>> > Bill W5EC
>> >
>> > BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big
>> Drop
>> > in Solar Activity
>> > The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just
>> made a
>> > major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way
>> out
>> > and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
>> >
>> > From Space.com reporting from the conference:
>> >
>> > Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
>> > magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
>> > preparing to be less active in the coming years.
>> >
>> > The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the
>> current
>> > sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading
>> into
>> > a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot
>> cycle
>> > greatly reduced or even eliminated.
>> >
>> > Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24
>> and
>> > is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However,
>> the
>> > recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar
>> cycle,
>> > Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are
>> questioning
>> > whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum,
>> which
>> > was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
>> > sunspots.
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Re: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Ron Notarius W3WN 
That may well be Ryan, but a LITTLE propagation every now and then on the high bands is a good thing!  (Especially the 2nd full weekend in December) Personally, I just want to complete 12 meter DXCC (about 30 confirms to go) before the band dies out completely again! 73, ron w3wn  On 06/15/11, Ryan Jairam wrote:Call me crazy but I liked it better when sunspots were sparse. You really appreciated when some of the higher bands opened up. When 15 opened up the bands went crazy!Ryan, N2RJOn Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Zack Widup  wrote:Tweak up those low band antennas!73, Zack W9SZOn 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins  wrote:>> I thought we just came out of that!> Bill W5EC>> BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop> in Solar Activity> The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made a> major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way out> and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.>> From Space.com reporting from the conference:>> Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening> magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is> preparing to be less active in the coming years.>> The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current> sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into> a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle> greatly reduced or even eliminated.>> Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 and> is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the> recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar cycle,> Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are questioning> whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, which> was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no> sunspots.>>> ---> To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list.  Please send a message to>> imail...@njdxa.org>> In the message body put either>> unsubscribe dx-chat>> or>> subscribe dx-chat>> This is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org> --->---To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list.  Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.orgIn the message body put eitherunsubscribe dx-chatorsubscribe dx-chatThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org- Ryan A. Jairam,---To unsubscribe or subscribe to this list. Please send a message toimail...@njdxa.org In the message body put either unsubscribe dx-chator subscribe dx-chatThis is the DX-CHAT reflector sponsored by the NJDXA http://njdxa.org--- 

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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Don Berger 


can we act like adults and keep this to DX rather than dismissive personal 
biases?
- Original Message - 
From: "Barry" 

To: "James Nipper" 
Cc: ; ; "'dx-chat'" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading




Thank you, Jim
Barry W2UP

On 6/15/2011 9:36 AM, James Nipper wrote:

He is just saying that we frequently see nutty "predictions"  based on
non-science, with global warming being the biggest of the scams.


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Barry 


Thank you, Jim
Barry W2UP

On 6/15/2011 9:36 AM, James Nipper wrote:

He is just saying that we frequently see nutty "predictions"  based on
non-science, with global warming being the biggest of the scams.


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Ryan Jairam 

Call me crazy but I liked it better when sunspots were sparse. You really
appreciated when some of the higher bands opened up. When 15 opened up the
bands went crazy!

Ryan, N2RJ

On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Zack Widup  wrote:

>
> Tweak up those low band antennas!
>
> 73, Zack W9SZ
>
>
> On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins  wrote:
> >
> > I thought we just came out of that!
> > Bill W5EC
> >
> > BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big
> Drop
> > in Solar Activity
> > The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made
> a
> > major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way
> out
> > and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
> >
> > From Space.com reporting from the conference:
> >
> > Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
> > magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
> > preparing to be less active in the coming years.
> >
> > The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the
> current
> > sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading
> into
> > a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot
> cycle
> > greatly reduced or even eliminated.
> >
> > Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24
> and
> > is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the
> > recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar
> cycle,
> > Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are
> questioning
> > whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum,
> which
> > was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
> > sunspots.
> >
> >
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RE: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Dennis Kopecky 
 

While I recognize that there are some very well equiped stations, as regards 
tweaking up those low band antennas, and I envy some of those who have been 
able to erect those 80M beams and the technical abilities that show up on 160M, 
the bulk of the people who I've found enjoying both local and dx qso's are 
using antennas simpler than beams, quads, and other very directional antennas: 
you don't see very many rhombics put up by us hams, and I especially admire 
ON4UN, John Devoldere's treatment of low band dxing. Sure I agree that one can 
put together a directional, phased vertical array, not all of us have the real 
estate to do it. So while I appreciate your thoughts, I have to go with what 
I've seen with many of my friends, that the statement I made is, for the most 
part, true. (And I presume, you have no problem with my statement regarding 40M 
w/o broadcast stations?).
 
73, Dennis, W2IU

 
> From: w7...@cox.net
> To: w...@comcast.net; w9sz.z...@gmail.com
> CC: dx-chat@njdxa.org
> Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 07:50:44 -0700
> 
> 
> Now, why would you say that? Are you even remotely qualified, on either 
> topic, to make such a definitive statement? I hardly think so.
> 
> Dave W7AQK
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Barry" 
> To: 
> Cc: "dx-chat" 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading
> 
> 
> >
> > This prediction is up there with the global warming nuts - trying to use 
> > ~400 years of data to predict the behavior of something with a 6 billion 
> > year history.
> > Barry W2UP
> >
> > On 6/15/2011 7:39 AM, Zack Widup wrote:
> >> Tweak up those low band antennas!
> >>
> >> 73, Zack W9SZ
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins wrote:
> >>> I thought we just came out of that!
> >>> Bill W5EC
> >>>
> >>> BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big 
> >>> Drop
> >>> in Solar Activity
> >>> The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just 
> >>> made a
> >>> major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way 
> >>> out
> >>> and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
> >>>
> >>> From Space.com reporting from the conference:
> >>>
> >>> Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
> >>> magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
> >>> preparing to be less active in the coming years.
> >>>
> >>> The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the 
> >>> current
> >>> sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading 
> >>> into
> >>> a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot 
> >>> cycle
> >>> greatly reduced or even eliminated.
> >>>
> >>> Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 
> >>> and
> >>> is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, 
> >>> the
> >>> recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar 
> >>> cycle,
> >>> Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are 
> >>> questioning
> >>> whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, 
> >>> which
> >>> was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
> >>> sunspots.
> >>>
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RE: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread James Nipper 

He is just saying that we frequently see nutty "predictions"  based on
non-science, with global warming being the biggest of the scams.


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread David Yarnes 


Now, why would you say that?  Are you even remotely qualified, on either 
topic, to make such a definitive statement?  I hardly think so.


Dave W7AQK


- Original Message - 
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To: 
Cc: "dx-chat" 
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2011 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading




This prediction is up there with the global warming nuts - trying to use 
~400 years of data to predict the behavior of something with a 6 billion 
year history.

Barry W2UP

On 6/15/2011 7:39 AM, Zack Widup wrote:

Tweak up those low band antennas!

73, Zack W9SZ


On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins  wrote:

I thought we just came out of that!
Bill W5EC

BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big 
Drop

in Solar Activity
The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just 
made a
major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way 
out

and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.

 From Space.com reporting from the conference:

Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
preparing to be less active in the coming years.

The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the 
current
sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading 
into
a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot 
cycle

greatly reduced or even eliminated.

Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 
and
is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, 
the
recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar 
cycle,
Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are 
questioning
whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, 
which

was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
sunspots.


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RE: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Dennis Kopecky 
 

Ugh, that's just more dipoles and verticals with little or no gain or 
directivity. But really, 40M was once again beautiful, now that its without the 
foreign broadcasters ! What's a kid on a city-lot to do ?
 
73, Dennis, W2IU

 
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2011 08:39:43 -0500
> Subject: Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading
> From: w9sz.z...@gmail.com
> To: dx-chat@njdxa.org
> 
> 
> Tweak up those low band antennas!
> 
> 73, Zack W9SZ
> 
> 
> On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins  wrote:
> >
> > I thought we just came out of that!
> > Bill W5EC
> >
> > BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop
> > in Solar Activity
> > The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made a
> > major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way out
> > and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
> >
> > From Space.com reporting from the conference:
> >
> > Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
> > magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
> > preparing to be less active in the coming years.
> >
> > The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current
> > sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into
> > a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle
> > greatly reduced or even eliminated.
> >
> > Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 and
> > is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the
> > recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar cycle,
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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Barry 


This prediction is up there with the global warming nuts - trying to use 
~400 years of data to predict the behavior of something with a 6 billion 
year history.

Barry W2UP

On 6/15/2011 7:39 AM, Zack Widup wrote:

Tweak up those low band antennas!

73, Zack W9SZ


On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins  wrote:

I thought we just came out of that!
Bill W5EC

BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop
in Solar Activity
The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made a
major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way out
and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.

 From Space.com reporting from the conference:

Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
preparing to be less active in the coming years.

The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current
sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into
a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle
greatly reduced or even eliminated.

Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 and
is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the
recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar cycle,
Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are questioning
whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, which
was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
sunspots.


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Re: [DX-CHAT] Sun's Spots Fading

2011-06-15 Thread Zack Widup 

Tweak up those low band antennas!

73, Zack W9SZ


On 6/15/11, Bill Hawkins  wrote:
>
> I thought we just came out of that!
> Bill W5EC
>
> BREAKING - major AAS solar announcement: Sun's Fading Spots Signal Big Drop
> in Solar Activity
> The American Astronomical Society meeting in Los Cruces, NM has just made a
> major announcement on the state of the sun. Sunspots may be on the way out
> and an extended solar minimum may be on the horizon.
>
> From Space.com reporting from the conference:
>
> Some unusual solar readings, including fading sunspots and weakening
> magnetic activity near the poles, could be indications that our sun is
> preparing to be less active in the coming years.
>
> The results of three separate studies seem to show that even as the current
> sunspot cycle swells toward the solar maximum, the sun could be heading into
> a more-dormant period, with activity during the next 11-year sunspot cycle
> greatly reduced or even eliminated.
>
> Currently, the sun is in the midst of the period designated as Cycle 24 and
> is ramping up toward the cycle's period of maximum activity. However, the
> recent findings indicate that the activity in the next 11-year solar cycle,
> Cycle 25, could be greatly reduced. In fact, some scientists are questioning
> whether this drop in activity could lead to a second Maunder Minimum, which
> was a 70-year period from 1645 to 1715 when the sun showed virtually no
> sunspots.
>
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