Re: [Dx4win] Auto Upload to LOTW, etc.

[Dan Violette]

Kostas said:  " I explain that the most important thing in a logging program is 
to be reliable (not loose my qsos) and show the right dxcc entity and zone of 
every call. Dx4win does perfect these 2 things."

And if it was not for Jim (AD1C) the accuracy would not be there either.  

Just an FYI from earlier discussion:  I use DXLabs at the club station and we 
send in our LoTW uploads in bulk but just two clicks to send (one to add 
requested QSOs, one to send).  Then downloads are one click to download log 
match (that QSOs are matched in both places) and one more to update 
confirmations.  Last click can be done whenever you want to check for more 
confirmations.  I also think every QSO uploaded real time is a waste of LoTW 
computer resources but they are so fast normally now that is not really an 
issue.

Dan KI6X

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From: dx4win-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On Behalf 
Of Kostas SV1DPI
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 1:23 AM
To: dx4win@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Auto Upload to LOTW, etc.

It is normal that the most of the users still use dx4win are not interested for 
auto upload to lotw, clublog and eqsl. After some time I believe the majority 
of the dx4win users will be like me: they will not have interest for ft8 as 
well.

Dx4win should be able to offer these 2 things. Of course switchable auto or 
not. But this is what most of the people ask today. I have showed dx4win to 
many new hams. I explain that the most important thing in a logging program is 
to be reliable (not loose my qsos) and show the right dxcc entity and zone of 
every call. Dx4win does perfect these 2 things. 
I am a CQ checker in my country. You can not believe how many mistakes other 
programs have in zones. But all the new hams are interesting for
ft8 and other digi and they don't like the way dx4win handles this. Also they 
want to be able easily upload to lotw and clublog. In combination that they 
need to pay for dx4win (not a few $) the most of them go away. 
This is not good for most of us even we are ok with dx4win...

73 Kostas SV1DPI


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Re: [Dx4win] Lost packet connection

[Tom Doligalski via DX4WIN]

Specifically, what are your settings under “Cluster mode auto connect” section 
in Preferences ?

Tom W4KX

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From: Tim moore
Sent: Monday, April 6, 2020 9:39 PM
To: W1ZZ
Cc: DX4WIN Reflector
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Lost packet connection

It would probably require more information to pin point what it could be.
You'd need to show your config for the packet.are the clusters you're
trying active (my favorite one goes down sometimes. And sometimes, my first
3 or 4 choices are down...but I keep trying to I get one that does work).
So what is your packet configuration?



Tim Moore
PMP


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> Somehow the ability to auto connect to my favorite  cluster k1tttI
> cannot connect to any packet cluster.  I’m file preference packet the com
> port is set tcp/ip.  My internet connection is fine.
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Re: [Dx4win] Lost packet connection

[Tim moore]

It would probably require more information to pin point what it could be.
You'd need to show your config for the packet.are the clusters you're
trying active (my favorite one goes down sometimes. And sometimes, my first
3 or 4 choices are down...but I keep trying to I get one that does work).
So what is your packet configuration?



Tim Moore
PMP


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> On Monday, April 6, 2020, 1:18 PM, W1ZZ via DX4WIN 
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> Somehow the ability to auto connect to my favorite  cluster k1tttI
> cannot connect to any packet cluster.  I’m file preference packet the com
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Re: [Dx4win] Lost packet connection

[W1ZZ via DX4WIN]

Any assistance?


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wrote:

Somehow the ability to auto connect to my favorite  cluster k1ttt    I cannot 
connect to any packet cluster.  I’m file preference packet the com port is set 
tcp/ip.  My internet connection is fine. 
Tia
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Re: [Dx4win] Fwd: DX QSL not counted

[Jim Reisert AD1C]

Something else must be going on.

I did an experiment.  I had worked and confirmed ZE5JJ as a Novice, in
December 1974, on 15m CW.  I deleted all of the other Z2 QSOs from my
log (37 of them), so the only one left is that 15m CW QSO from
December 1974.  I did a DXCC Report and selected a Band listing.  Sure
enough, I have Z2 confirmed on 15 meters.

The only differences between yours and mine, that I can see are a)
DXCC entity, b) Band.

I don't think it's the CW cutoff date.

-- 
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Re: [Dx4win] Fwd: DX QSL not counted

[WA7AA]

If you remove the start date for an award, then all QSOs will count for 
it, regardless of the QSO date. This will make a QSO in DX4Win "valid" 
and it should be reflected in all reports, totals, flags, etc.


If that's not what you are looking for, then I am probably not quite 
understanding your original post correctly.


73,

WA7AA




That sounds more like a work-around rather than a fix.

The current problem is just an incorrect needed list for 160M and 
your suggestion would probably fix that. But then my CW DXCC totals 
would be incorrect in the summary?


Unless your suggestion ONLY corrects a band need list calculation and 
effects nothing else?


73, Richard - K5NA.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:45 PM WA7AA > wrote:


On 06-Apr-20 10:39, Richard King wrote:
> I like for LoTW and my DX4WIN totals to agree on all modes and
bands. But I
> can see they will never agree unless the DX4WIN software is
fixed to take
> into account the CW DXCC restrictions.
>
That's easily fixable: File > Awards, under Mode Group select CW,
then
delete the cut-off date and save.

73,

Zoran WA7AA


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Re: [Dx4win] Fwd: DX QSL not counted

[Richard King]

Hi Zoran.

That sounds more like a work-around rather than a fix.

The current problem is just an incorrect needed list for 160M and
your suggestion would probably fix that. But then my CW DXCC totals would
be incorrect in the summary?

Unless your suggestion ONLY corrects a band need list calculation and
effects nothing else?

73, Richard - K5NA.

On Mon, Apr 6, 2020 at 5:45 PM WA7AA  wrote:

> On 06-Apr-20 10:39, Richard King wrote:
> > I like for LoTW and my DX4WIN totals to agree on all modes and bands.
> But I
> > can see they will never agree unless the DX4WIN software is fixed to take
> > into account the CW DXCC restrictions.
> >
> That's easily fixable: File > Awards, under Mode Group select CW, then
> delete the cut-off date and save.
>
> 73,
>
> Zoran WA7AA
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Re: [Dx4win] Fwd: DX QSL not counted

[WA7AA]

On 06-Apr-20 10:39, Richard King wrote:

I like for LoTW and my DX4WIN totals to agree on all modes and bands. But I
can see they will never agree unless the DX4WIN software is fixed to take
into account the CW DXCC restrictions.

That's easily fixable: File > Awards, under Mode Group select CW, then 
delete the cut-off date and save.


73,

Zoran WA7AA


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[Dx4win] Fwd: DX QSL not counted

[Richard King]

I have a QSL card for the Falkland Island on 160M CW dated January 26,
1974. It was submitted to the ARRL years ago and counted as a 160M QSO. It
also shows up on my LoTW rewards screen as confirmed because my DXCC and
LoTW accounts were merged when I first went to LoTW.

My problem is that DX4WIN (Ver 9.09) will not give me credit for the
confirmation. When I display my needed list, it says that I have worked the
Falkland Islands on DIGITAL and SSB but have no confirmations for either of
those modes. I also says I have no CW QSOs on 160M. I have never bothered
to confirm the additional 160M QSOs with VP8 since I already have that
band/country confirmed with the ARRL on LoTW.

I know what is happening here. The DX4WIN software is getting tangled up
with the silly ARRL DXCC CW rules that only allows QSOs after January 1,
1975 to count for CW. All CW QSOs before that will ONLY count for MIXED
mode. The ARRL continues to maintain this rule to protect folks who are
high on the CW Honor roll that have influence with the ARRL as directors
and officers. All other DXCC awards have done away with date restrictions.

I like for LoTW and my DX4WIN totals to agree on all modes and bands. But I
can see they will never agree unless the DX4WIN software is fixed to take
into account the CW DXCC restrictions.

73, Richard =- K5NA
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[Dx4win] DX QSL not counted

[Richard King]

I have a QSL card for the Falkland Island on 160M CW dated January 26,
1974. It was submitted to the ARRL years ago and counted as a 160M QSO. It
also shows up on my LoTW rewards screen as confirmed because my DXCC and
LoTW accounts were merged when I first went to LoTW.

My problem is that DX4WIN (Ver 9.09) will not give me credit for the
confirmation. When I display my needed list, it says that I have worked the
Falkland Islands on DIGITAL and SSB but have no confirmations for either of
those modes. I also says I have no CW QSOs on 160M. I have never bothered
to confirm the additional 160M QSOs with VP8 since I already have that
band/country confirmed with the ARRL on LoTW.

I know what is happening here. The DX4WIN software is getting tangled up
with the silly ARRL DXCC CW rules that only allows QSOs after January 1,
1975 to count for CW. All CW QSOs before that will ONLY count for MIXED
mode. The ARRL continues to maintain this rule to protect folks who are
high on the CW Honor roll that have influence with the ARRL as directors
and officers. All other DXCC awards have done away with date restrictions.

I like for LoTW and my DX4WIN totals to agree on all modes and bands. But I
can see they will never agree unless the DX4WIN software is fixed to take
into account the CW DXCC restrictions.

73, Richard =- K5NA
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[Dx4win] Lost packet connection

[W1ZZ via DX4WIN]

Somehow the ability to auto connect to my favorite  cluster k1ttt    I cannot 
connect to any packet cluster.  I’m file preference packet the com port is set 
tcp/ip.  My internet connection is fine. 
Tia
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Re: [Dx4win] Auto Upload to LOTW, etc.

[Kostas SV1DPI]

It is normal that the most of the users still use dx4win are not 
interested for auto upload to lotw, clublog and eqsl. After some time I 
believe the majority of the dx4win users will be like me: they will not 
have interest for ft8 as well.


Dx4win should be able to offer these 2 things. Of course switchable auto 
or not. But this is what most of the people ask today. I have showed 
dx4win to many new hams. I explain that the most important thing in a 
logging program is to be reliable (not loose my qsos) and show the right 
dxcc entity and zone of every call. Dx4win does perfect these 2 things. 
I am a CQ checker in my country. You can not believe how many mistakes 
other programs have in zones. But all the new hams are interesting for 
ft8 and other digi and they don't like the way dx4win handles this. Also 
they want to be able easily upload to lotw and clublog. In combination 
that they need to pay for dx4win (not a few $) the most of them go away. 
This is not good for most of us even we are ok with dx4win...


73 Kostas SV1DPI

Στις 6/4/2020 10:49, ο Paul F6EXV έγραψε:

Hi Bruce
Let me be clear : I like DX4Win a lot. It has many features that are 
very easy to use, and does MOST of what I (and may I think most users) 
expect from a logging program.
Re LoTW, it has been experiencing long delays in the past weeks/days, 
but uploads take a few minutes if not seconds to be completed when it 
works OK.
Bruce, count the number of mouse clicks your procedure needs, even 
including reading the email you receive from LoTW., and including the 
newly confirmed QSOs into your log.
The program by N2AMG called L32LogSync requires 2 (two) clicks to do 
ALL this (this program works with Logger32 and DXLab, at least).
If this program works with 2 logging programs, it should work with 3, 
obviously requiring changes in DX4Win architecture. Are these changes 
a 2 year-job or a few hours, I do not know, I am a full ignorant in 
computering.

And again, this could be optional if this was to be implemented some day.

As for logging WSJT/JTDX QSO directly into DX4Win, I see no reason why 
to object to such improvement.


So my question to the developpers remain : what are they working on, 
if they are working on anything ?


73
Paul F6EXV

Le 06/04/2020 à 00:44, Bruce Blackley a écrit :
I upload my contacts to LoTW via e-mail. That way I get an e-mail 
back from
LoTW when they have added the calls to my account.  They also tell me 
if I

have any new confirmations and who they are.

Bruce

WD4LBR
        ---Original Message---
  From: Ricardo Navarrete
Date: 4/5/2020 6:16:37 PM
To: Bruce Blackley
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Auto Upload to LOTW, etc.
  Me neither, I prefer to control how and what I upload my Lotw 
QSO's. A great
improvement could be like in some contest programs the Shortened RST 
in CW.



Simple cero as T
Advanced cero as T and nine as N
Expert cero as T, Nine as N and one as A


What do you think?


Thanks


El dom., 5 abr. 2020 23:59, Bruce Blackley  
escribió:


I agree with you 100% Joe.  Dx4Win is a great program.



Bruce



WD4LBR









---Original Message---



From: Joseph Orsak

Date: 04/05/20 15:01:20

To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net

Subject: [Dx4win] Auto Upload to LOTW, etc.



Just one long time users opinion,







As flakey as LOTW has been recently I for one do not want my QSOs being

uploaded automatically/individually.



Would I like to see WSJT -> DX4WIN automation sometime in the future? 
Sure


but it's not a huge deal for me. A couple copy/pastes and a few mouse 
clicks


and all is good.







73,



Joe W4WN



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Re: [Dx4win] Auto Upload to LOTW, etc.

[Paul F6EXV]

Hi Bruce
Let me be clear : I like DX4Win a lot. It has many features that are 
very easy to use, and does MOST of what I (and may I think most users) 
expect from a logging program.
Re LoTW, it has been experiencing long delays in the past weeks/days, 
but uploads take a few minutes if not seconds to be completed when it 
works OK.
Bruce, count the number of mouse clicks your procedure needs, even 
including reading the email you receive from LoTW., and including the 
newly confirmed QSOs into your log.
The program by N2AMG called L32LogSync requires 2 (two) clicks to do ALL 
this (this program works with Logger32 and DXLab, at least).
If this program works with 2 logging programs, it should work with 3, 
obviously requiring changes in DX4Win architecture. Are these changes a 
2 year-job or a few hours, I do not know, I am a full ignorant in 
computering.

And again, this could be optional if this was to be implemented some day.

As for logging WSJT/JTDX QSO directly into DX4Win, I see no reason why 
to object to such improvement.


So my question to the developpers remain : what are they working on, if 
they are working on anything ?


73
Paul F6EXV

Le 06/04/2020 à 00:44, Bruce Blackley a écrit :

I upload my contacts to LoTW via e-mail.  That way I get an e-mail back from
LoTW when they have added the calls to my account.  They also tell me if I
have any new confirmations and who they are.

Bruce

WD4LBR
  
  
  
  
---Original Message---
  
From: Ricardo Navarrete

Date: 4/5/2020 6:16:37 PM
To: Bruce Blackley
Subject: Re: [Dx4win] Auto Upload to LOTW, etc.
  
Me neither, I prefer to control how and what I upload my Lotw QSO's. A great

improvement could be like in some contest programs the Shortened RST in CW.


Simple cero as T
Advanced cero as T and nine as N
Expert cero as T, Nine as N and one as A


What do you think?


Thanks


El dom., 5 abr. 2020 23:59, Bruce Blackley  escribió:

I agree with you 100% Joe.  Dx4Win is a great program.



Bruce



WD4LBR









---Original Message---



From: Joseph Orsak

Date: 04/05/20 15:01:20

To: DX4WIN@mailman.qth.net

Subject: [Dx4win] Auto Upload to LOTW, etc.



Just one long time users opinion,







As flakey as LOTW has been recently I for one do not want my QSOs being

uploaded automatically/individually.



Would I like to see WSJT -> DX4WIN automation sometime in the future? Sure

but it's not a huge deal for me. A couple copy/pastes and a few mouse clicks

and all is good.







73,



Joe W4WN



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Re: [Dx4win] Auto Upload to LOTW, etc.

[Paul F6EXV]

Hi Joe
My suggestion was that these potential developments would be optional, 
not necessarily fully automatic.

73
Paul F6EXV

Le 05/04/2020 à 21:00, Joseph Orsak a écrit :

Just one long time users opinion,

  


As flakey as LOTW has been recently I for one do not want my QSOs being
uploaded automatically/individually.

Would I like to see WSJT -> DX4WIN automation sometime in the future? Sure
but it's not a huge deal for me. A couple copy/pastes and a few mouse clicks
and all is good.

  


73,

Joe W4WN

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