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> > You just don't get it.
> Let's avoid this kind of disrespect where possible.
>
> You've done some interesting work, and n
no prob.
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I am sorry if I sounded disrespectful.
Just frustrated with my boss at work,
sorry pascal
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From: "Eytan Heidingsfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> You just don
this is to deal with arrays where the elements are known be name. eg
document.all['id']
there is no need to continue if this is the type of element.
Eytan Heidingsfeld wrote:
> What is that delete command?
> delete array[which.id]?
> 8an
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What is that delete command?
delete array[which.id]?
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Eytan Heidingsfeld
> Verzonden: zaterdag 17 februari 2001 21:26
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>
> Included in the zip yet again
> tcanvas.js
> and
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> > Verzonden: zondag 18 februari 2001 11:46
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> > Onderwerp: Re: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer ( I have no life : ) )
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> >
> > You must be as old as me then, you old dog!
> >
> > --
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> You must be as old as me then, you old dog!
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> From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <[EMAI
You must be as old as me then, you old dog!
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From: "Pascal Bestebroer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2001 2:32 AM
Subject: RE: [Dynapi-Dev] TCanvas vs. DynLayer ( I have no life : ) )
> > > but
> > but I dare to say that nothing ever invented was better then the C64...
>
> I think the first amiga might challenge that. :-)
:) this has always been a sort of war between C64 coders and Amiga
developers, so it's probably depends on what you like
If you look at it from a C64 enthousiast side
You just don't get it.
It's not that I use different code and the version I tested with has a
children list. (uses my TList so didn't include it).
The reason it's faster is such. When browsers parse js code and create
objects they create actual objects in their application. That means that for
eve
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> Verzonden: zaterdag 17 februari 2001 21:26
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Thank you, I'll let y'all know what I find..
( A little third-party testing never hurt right?)
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From: "Eytan Heidingsfeld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 12:25 PM
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Included in the zip yet again
tcanvas.js
and
browser.js
and the test for DynLayer and TCanvas with nesting and without
called:
stress.dynlayer.create nested wtime.htm
stress.dynlayer.create wtime.htm
stress.canvas.create nested wtime.htm
stress.canvas.create wtime.htm
8an
tcanvas.zip
I'd like to see your canvas.. and your test files, the whole she-bang.
Later
Doug
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For the stress tests in DynLayer or with canvas?
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What
I'm telling you is that you don't need all that.
My
code makes it so much faster with so little optimization (just passing the
create responsibility).
8an
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It does make sense to split up browser specific
code... the advantages are any...but that has already been d
please send the file!
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Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2001 10:32 AM
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> Did a stress test with nested layers created like this
> never seen a C128 upclose,
It looked pretty much like a c64, but less 'rounded' more 'angular'
> but I dare to say that nothing ever invented was better then the C64...
I think the first amiga might challenge that. :-)
> of a PC.. even the 16color (hardware limited and palette set) could
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> Note that I'm only splitting browser specific code, not complete functions
> into seperate files (something I'm strongly against)
> You shouldn't spl
Tried with running 3 times in a row.
DynAPI - third time 14 ms and change
Canvas - third time 66000 ms and change
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Did a stress test with nested layers created like this (will send file if
you want)
create 5 layers
in each layer create 5 more
repeat. This means that the whole thing creates
3125 layers
DynAPI version = 59 seconds and change
Canvas version = 28 seconds and change
this on a PII 700 with 256 RAM
Pascal, added all of the set styles and still same time exactly.
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> Verzonden: zaterdag 17 februari 2001 15:42
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> b
API pages that swallow
> > memory, ordinary pages do to...
> > and so do many windows programs.
> > (But... this is assuming that windows is actually a good OS...
> > which it is... NOT)
> > Taking this into account... you have to work with the conditions
> > at hand.
ich it doesn't it's not just DynAPI pages that swallow
> >> memory, ordinary pages do to...
> >> and so do many windows programs.
> >> (But... this is assuming that windows is actually a good OS...
> >> which it is... NOT)
> >> Taking this i
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> >to be even less helpful here, I truly believe it can't be fixed, and that
> >it's an browser issue..
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account... you have to work with the conditions at hand...
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>
> I agree... this is a huge problem. Pretty much makes the software unusable
> unle
whatsoever on this issue to date.
Anyone had any luck with this? Anyone have any ideas?
Mike Ellis
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More importantly than
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> More importantly than upfront performance:
> Does it reduce the memory leak ?
>
> If not then performance will be on a freight train to swap-land in no time
> anyways.
>
> My current DynAPI pages eat a meg or
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> More importantly than upfront performance:
> Does it reduce the memory leak ?
>
> If not then performance will be on a freight train to swap-land in no time
> anyways.
>
> My current
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I'm working on memory leak as we speak. I told the list that I found a
method in which after a refresh all the memory gets reduced. I'll tell you
when I have finished with my memory tests.
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More importantly than upfront performance:
Does it reduce the memory leak ?
If not then performance will be on a freight train to swap-land in no time
anyways.
My current DynAPI pages eat a meg or more pr. reload. It is not a big
problem at my 256mb machine. But just the thoughts of my clients
I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about changing the way of creating
objects. Instead of using
a = new DynLayer()
aparent.addChild(a)
and in those lines of code the following happening
creation of element
assignElement
precreate stuff
...
just adding a create method and calling it.
I have j
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> Speed optimization can always be introduced. In fact, the
> latest precreation
> code that caused some old bugs to reappear and some peo
Speed optimization can always be introduced. In fact, the latest precreation
code that caused some old bugs to reappear and some people to complain about the
API going backwards was introduced in order to speed up layer creation,
something that was not a problem until people started wanting hundre
Now the glueing together.
For that reason exactly(setstyle) I added right after in my code:
setHTML
setVisible
setBgColor
setSize
moveTo
Next test will be nested.
Thanx for the shred,
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me again :)
I don't think this test is really useable.
Your current Tcanvas code misses ALOT of things DynLayer takes care of.
DynLayer sets sizes, z-index,clipping,bgimages in initialisation (and also a
few other style properties.. note that setting a style property is what
slows everything dow
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