[e-gold-list] Re: hey Jim

2001-05-24 Thread James M. Ray
At 3:14 PM +1000 5/24/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: what about just e-gold .. real gold (and then in fine print you could say this real gold foil provided by e-gold ... it's real gold online sort of thing) Hi Mark JP. Maybe this would be good, for Remora I need to keep it short if I can!

[e-gold-list] RE: frederick

2001-05-24 Thread ~~}i LeoNid i{~~
On Wed, 23 May 2001 20:49:58 -0400 Samuel Mc Kee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saying log in number! is no different from saying password!. It's just A LONGER PASSWORD. It means absolutely nothing. i see:) hearing is just for justice(s):) Are we learning yet? i (king|am) not confused. i

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-24 Thread R. A. Hettinga
At 9:22 PM -0400 on 5/23/01, Craig Spencer wrote: Unfortunately, this is not quite accurate. All digital bearer instrument schemes require a central clearing mechanism to prevent double spending. This amounts to an account based system. Fortunately, :-), it doesn't. I've gone over this

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-24 Thread Ian Green
Mondex presented that model a few years back. (It may still be on www.mondex.com ?)I am still waiting for it, but it will take a major corporation like that to get the computer manufacturers to do it. Regards, Ian Green -Original Message- SNIP The catch is the card readers. If PC

[e-gold-list] Re: Open Letter to Douglas Jackson: E-gold Weakness

2001-05-24 Thread Ian Green
The National Australia Bank Internet Banking has overcome any possibility of keyboard sniffing, as their Internet Banking program is a separate Java Internet client, and the only way to enter a password is by clicking on an image of a keyboard in a movable small window, so the password is never

[e-gold-list] Re: Open Letter to Douglas Jackson: E-gold Weakness

2001-05-24 Thread Ian Green
I am advocating a separate login name from the publicly-known account number not simply to foil hackers, but to prevent denial of service type attacks. Anyone at present can lock out any e-gold account he chooses simply by using the account number and typing an incorrect password a few times!

[e-gold-list] e-gold Site Down?

2001-05-24 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
Can someone tell me if the e-gold site is up? It looks down form our end! Claude http://www.goldcurrencies.ca http://www.ormetal.com == Claude Cormier Public Key http://www.ormetal.com/PGPkey.html == --- You are currently

[e-gold-list] Re: e-gold Site Down?

2001-05-24 Thread gary
Works ok here. Gary - Original Message - From: Mark S. Ohberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 11:47 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: e-gold Site Down? Mr. C, Down here in NY too The end user's attempt to connect to the server

[e-gold-list] RE: escalating attack sequences....

2001-05-24 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
Yeah, but if a trojan is written to send everything back to the thief, it will certainly be noticed. The user's computer will only run HALF as fast and the thief will be overloaded with data. If I were to turn to the dark side, I'd write a Trojan horse that just logs the stuff locally and

[e-gold-list] Re: Open Letter to Douglas Jackson: E-gold Weakness

2001-05-24 Thread Brendan_Smith
For the record, can those who know post up some suggestions of good programs that can be run on Windows machines to look for keyboard sniffers? I already use anti-v and firewall software (ZoneAlarm), but some sort of scanning software that can be run periodically would be handy, too

[e-gold-list] How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread Joyce Marie
Hi everyone I just had to tell you about this! I have a private club called International Money Club. I set up an OsGold account a few weeks ago for the club. Well when they came out with the OSOPPS site last week I offered to all the club members that signed up under the IMC (International

[e-gold-list] Keyboard Sniffer Detection

2001-05-24 Thread BigBooster
At 10:37 AM 05/24/2001 +1000, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For the record, can those who know post up some suggestions of good programs that can be run on Windows machines to look for keyboard sniffers? I already use anti-v and firewall software (ZoneAlarm), but some sort of scanning software that

[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread Viking Coder
any way the next day I received another email message telling me that it would be refunded to me... This morning when I looked in my account there was the refund So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of payment. There is only 3 ways that they could have

[e-gold-list] private credentials

2001-05-24 Thread hkkid
I have strong issues against using smart cards. Widespread, everyday use of smart cards will be an end to the few remaining shreds of privacy that we still have. Why not simply implant microchips into everybody? It is basically the same thing. Actually, that isn't necessary. Dr. Stephen Brands

[e-gold-list] Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
Got a question for those running businesses, most especially those running E-Gold-only businesses. How are you handling the capital gains tax? Has anyone written any kind of specialized software to help with cap-gain recordkeeping in the E-Gold system? It seems to me capital gains calculations

[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread hkkid
There's a fourth way - they could have just eaten the $10 and paid it out to keep a happy customer. - Original Message - From: Viking Coder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: e-gold Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 1:29 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread Vince Callaway
On Thu, 24 May 2001, Viking Coder wrote: So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of payment. I think you misread the note. It looked as if osgold contacted the other account holder and they did the refund, not osgold. --- You are currently subscribed to

[e-gold-list] Re: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread SnowDog
Got a question for those running businesses, most especially those running E-Gold-only businesses. How are you handling the capital gains tax? Has anyone written any kind of specialized software to help with cap-gain recordkeeping in the E-Gold system? It seems to me capital gains

[e-gold-list] RE: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread Ian Green
I'm not in America, but isn't capital gains tax only for long term ( 12 months ) investments? E-Gold is not an investment it is a currency, and trading profits or foreign exchange profits or losses are simply income. Treat it just like Pounds Sterling, Euro or Yen, surely! -Original

[e-gold-list] Re: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
Treat e-gold like a foreign currency. With each transaction is an exchange rate. You can use the amount of gold, and the exchange rate to get a US dollar equivalent for each transaction in your accounting system. That's how I'd love to do it, but I'm not sure the IRS would approve. Suppose,

[e-gold-list] Re: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 24 May 2001, at 13:21, Samuel Mc Kee wrote: Got a question for those running businesses, most especially those running E-Gold-only businesses. How are you handling the capital gains tax? Has anyone written any kind of specialized software to help with cap-gain recordkeeping in the E-Gold

[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread Viking Coder
So, in other words, OSGold has proven that they are a repudiable form of payment. I think you misread the note. It looked as if osgold contacted the other account holder and they did the refund, not osgold. : 2001-05-23 00:03:56 638632 10005584 OSOPPS 10014478 International Money Club :

[e-gold-list] Re: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 24 May 2001, at 13:42, Samuel Mc Kee wrote: My concern is not with the tax itself, but with the enormous complexity that arrises trying to manage a FIFO system of accounting for what centigram was bought or sold (for practical purposes) when and for how much when the number of

[e-gold-list] Re: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 24 May 2001, at 10:48, Vince Callaway wrote: When I offer services or products to people I always quote grams or ounces, doing it any other way is well, wrong. Vince, I couldn't agree more. We do same. Claude --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To

[e-gold-list] Re: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread SnowDog
When I offer services or products to people I always quote grams or ounces, doing it any other way is well, wrong. But for US tax purposes, you have to know the dollar equivalent. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL

[e-gold-list] Gold coins and bars.

2001-05-24 Thread Vince Callaway
I am considering offering gold mapleleafs and small gold bars on my website. Is there any interest out there for exchanging E-Gold for real gold? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread SnowDog
That's how I'd love to do it, but I'm not sure the IRS would approve. Suppose, for example, that I receive an ounce of E-Gold in revenue at a time when an ounce goes for $300. Okay, I mark it in the books as $300 in revenue. Then Alan Greenspan goes on a bender and starts injecting

[e-gold-list] Re: Open Letter to Douglas Jackson: E-gold Weakness

2001-05-24 Thread jpm
For what it's worth, purely in my opinion, that could very easil be sniffed by a sniffer designed fo rthe purpose. The National Australia Bank Internet Banking has overcome any possibility of keyboard sniffing, as their Internet Banking program is a separate Java Internet client, and the only

[e-gold-list] Re: How is this for service!!!

2001-05-24 Thread jpm
Unfortunately, that story means that OS Gold is super for specific purposes and customers. but it also means OS Gold is not a player as a currency. Just last night i spent THIRTY THOUSAND dollars of gold, to a market maker I was selling wholesale to (you know who you are, you

[e-gold-list] absolutely FREE STUFF from Bananagold

2001-05-24 Thread jpm
An incredibly important announcement! the next three orders under $50 total at http://bananagold.com , by people WHO HAVE NEVER USED BANANAGOLD BEFORE, will be UTTERLY FREE! (All your address/number/etc data will be checked .. don't try to be clever, Jim! :) ) Just buy your stuff, and then

[e-gold-list] that's one!

2001-05-24 Thread jpm
one person has already gotten $50 worth of free stuff -- TWO MORE FREE ORDERS TO GO. (i) you must have never used http://bananagold.com before (ii) if you spend more than $50, fine, but you'll only get the first $50 back! Enjoy! ---

[e-gold-list] RE: that's one!

2001-05-24 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
Yep, I bought _How to Steal Food from the Supermarket_, the book that promises to teach you how to purloin some sirloin, how to poach eggs. Okay, not very libertarian, but highly entertaining. one person has already gotten $50 worth of free stuff -- TWO MORE FREE ORDERS TO GO. --- You

[e-gold-list] RE: escalating attack sequences....

2001-05-24 Thread C. Cormier - Ormetal Inc.
On 24 May 2001, at 2:07, Viking Coder wrote: Instead of restricting where you can't go, the firewall would restrict where you can go. Well I didn't know that some firewalls were doing that. Mine does not restrict on the destination, but put a restriction on the origin. In other words, I

[e-gold-list] RE: that's one!

2001-05-24 Thread jpm
BTW Sam, I'm not entirely sure you get email I send directly to you! (DNS woe?) I mentioned, just email '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to claim your refund man! Rock on! TWO MORE UTTERLY FREE ORDERS TO GO -- YOU MUST HAVE NOT USED BANANAGOLD BEFORE. **TOTALLY FREE** Yep, I bought _How to Steal Food

[e-gold-list] Re: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread Joseph Firmino
I don't see what the problem is unless you can't figure out the tax code. I don't operate a business but I have lots of buys and spends because I'm a dabbler and I only have to have to put up with my own mess. Nevertheless I use Microsoft Money and count my ounces of gold as you would shares of

[e-gold-list] Re: Capital gains

2001-05-24 Thread Samuel Mc Kee
I don't see what the problem is unless you can't figure out the tax code. According to the General Accounting Office, the IRS can't figure out the tax code! --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Magazine Depot

2001-05-24 Thread Geoff Wiltshire
Please will the Magazine Depot Owner contact me Thanks Geoff --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[e-gold-list] Re: security

2001-05-24 Thread CCS
Hettinga wrote: At 9:22 PM -0400 on 5/23/01, Craig Spencer wrote: Unfortunately, this is not quite accurate. All digital bearer instrument schemes require a central clearing mechanism to prevent double spending. This amounts to an account based system. Fortunately, :-), it