[e-gold-list] Re: Bamdex -was "free storage"

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 02:03 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow! That's great! Congratulations. Wanna issue some shares in it? ;-) :-) "... run the business as if the intent were to franchise it ..." I hope she's read e-Myth by Gerber! Available at: http://proxystore.com/details.ph

[e-gold-list] Re: Bamdex -was "free storage"

2003-06-23 Thread jpm
"If you want to get rich, sell shoes" Hilarious! In a strange coincidence, I just told that one to my wife earlier this evening. She has been an independent rep for wholesale women's accessories for a long time, but in August she'll be opening a retail shoe and accessory store here in Jasper,

[e-gold-list] Re: Bamdex -was "free storage"

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 01:20 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "If you want to get rich, sell shoes" Hilarious! In a strange coincidence, I just told that one to my wife earlier this evening. She has been an independent rep for wholesale women's accessories for a long time, but in August sh

[e-gold-list] Re: Bamdex -was "free storage"

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "Sidd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 17:18:27 +1200 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Bamdex -was "free storage" > > John, this has already been done, JP built bamdex.com... nobody used > it so he had to close it down :-( > > Sidd I

[e-gold-list] Re: Bamdex -was "free storage"

2003-06-23 Thread jpm
John, this has already been done, JP built bamdex.com... nobody used it so he had to close it down :-( Sidd lol, exactly.You described bamdex.com to a tee, John! Any business idea that starts "and then daytraders can do this..." is a non starter for the gold universe, for now, unfortunately

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "Danny Van den Berghe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 21:01:48 +0300 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC >> Pecunix charges ZERO storage fees, as does 1MDC... you can't go lower >> than that! > > > True, but Pecunix

[e-gold-list] Bamdex -was "free storage"

2003-06-23 Thread Sidd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John wrote: : Someone could set up a futures exchange using e-gold. People could loan : $1000 of e-gold out to the shorts, who would take possession for let's say a : 1 month contract, then at the end of the month the shorts pay back the : e-gold. If

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "James M. Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 17:20:00 -0400 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC) > > At 10:22 PM +0300 6/23/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: > ... >> Of course, and there are als

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 11:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what part of that is the whole company, is the whole company worth 400,000, 4 million or 40 million. .. ie, is my 400,000 100% of the company, or only 10% or only1% ? Am I basically correct -- ie that's the or one of the "m

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "Danny Van den Berghe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:22:35 +0300 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC) > Enron was to do with 'cooking the books', so that the losses /loans and > risks they w

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "FileMatrix" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:29:07 +0300 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC) > > I think E-gold doesn't want to eliminate the storage fee for a very simple > reason: it force

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "Danny Van den Berghe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 20:02:03 +0300 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion > Just the obvious question that others already asked too: how many shares > will be outstanding, or in oth

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread jpm
At 8:02 PM +0300 6/23/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: A share is only a share if it has a 'size' and I cannot know the size just from the number of shares that are being offered in the ipo Danny, as we are completely at loggerheads, I think I am starting to understand your viewpont. Lets just say

[e-gold-list] Happy Birthday!

2003-06-23 Thread jrw
june 23rd is golden day of births. would someone mind recommending any books about either of the following individuals born today? a token reward in e-gold offered. 1912 - Alan Turing http://www.turing.org.uk/ 1888 - Anna Akhmatova http://jill.jazzkeyboard.com/akhmatova/ her lines triggered this

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 06:49 PM, Cambist.net wrote: How many shares, in total, are there of the company? Are these 400 shares out of 1000, 400 out of 10,000, or what? If there are only 400 shares in TGC and you own one share, you own 0.25% of the company. But obviously the owners of TGC

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 00:45:55 +1000 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion > But shares (as in, you know, MSFT) don't work like what you describe, > Darren. There's no "certain number" of shares that "is"

[e-gold-list] Re: some questoins about HYIP

2003-06-23 Thread James M. Ray
At 7:02 PM -0400 6/23/03, Robert S.Z. wrote: ... >Sure there are ways to generate huge returns and it's not even hard. But >HYIP ain't it. > >Scroll down some 200 messages and you will find a whole week's discussions >about the subject. ... Or just skip right to the URL below...(I have it as a sig

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Craig Spencer
On 23 Jun 2003, at 18:49, Cambist.net wrote: > How many shares, in total, are there of the company? Are these 400 > shares out of 1000, 400 out of 10,000, or what? If there are only 400 > shares in TGC and you own one share, you own 0.25% of the company. But > obviously the owners of TGC must ha

[e-gold-list] Re: share market misunderstandings

2003-06-23 Thread Craig Spencer
On 23 Jun 2003, at 18:31, Cambist.net wrote: > There are two types of stock, common and preferred. ... John, Excellent summary of the common usages of the terms. Of course, JP won't "buy" any of it. Best, CCS -- - Virtual Phonecard

[e-gold-list] e-gold scheduled downtime notification

2003-06-23 Thread jrw
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- see: Scheduled Downtime link on e-gold home page when: Tuesday July 1, 2003 1200 EDT to Tuesday July 1, 2003 1300 EDT (see web page for links to convert times to your local timezone) what: routine system maintenance hardware upgrades during the time listed on

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 22:21:16 +1000 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion >> Ok, but what will the relevance of the information be , when you don't know >> how big is your share? > > 1/400 = .0025 > > The

[e-gold-list] Re: share market misunderstandings

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "Robert S.Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 02:15:52 -0400 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: share market misunderstandings There are two types of stock, common and preferred. A share of common stock in a firm represents an owners

[e-gold-list] Re: some questoins about HYIP

2003-06-23 Thread Robert S.Z.
> Can these sites be trusted? Any good suggestions? > In my opinion there ain't no such thing as a trust-worthy HYIP. Sure there are ways to generate huge returns and it's not even hard. But HYIP ain't it. Scroll down some 200 messages and you will find a whole week's discussions about the subjec

[e-gold-list] Re: brokerage disintermediated

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "Robert S.Z." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 01:47:55 -0400 > To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: brokerage disintermediated > Instead let's do the maths: > I buy $11,500 worth of e-gold and pay 3% commission to the exchanger. > Four day

[e-gold-list] Re: Egold Marketing Services

2003-06-23 Thread Cambist.net
> From: "Areplicamall.com Customer Service Dept" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Reply-To: "Areplicamall.com Customer Service Dept" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2003 00:46:43 -0400 > Subject: [e-gold-list] Egold Marketing Services > I wonder if anyone can give me some advices on the following?

[e-gold-list] Re: Broadband mesh satellite system

2003-06-23 Thread Katz Global Media
Yes, it is certainly fast enough, but is the bandwidth cheap enough? remains to be seen... How about a laptop farm on my yacht our in the carribean? lol... what stinking jurisdiction...??? they don't want you in one just float to another... mwaahhaahhaa... inspires good daydreams... Gordon H.

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Craig Spencer
Danny, I much appreciate your persistence. You have far more patience than I do. While I don't think you will ever get any straight answers I am glad you are asking your questions. They are the right questions and need to be asked. Better you than me tho! Best, CCS -

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-23 Thread James M. Ray
At 10:22 PM +0300 6/23/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: ... >Of course, and there are also things you can do with the ETF that you can't >do with e-gold. >For example you can short the ETF if you think gold price will drop. I'm pretty-sure this is possible with Xodds.com, too, using e-gold. I haven

[e-gold-list] some questoins about HYIP

2003-06-23 Thread Max Bear
Hello all, I am looking for some HYIP to join. I noticed cashchange.com list some HYIP and they claim that you can have like around 7%-10% weekly interest rate. Can these sites be trusted? Any good suggestions? Thanks. Max __ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - N

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 01:02 PM, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: Just the obvious question that others already asked too: how many shares will be outstanding, or in other words what part of the company is being sold in this ipo 20%, 40%, perhaps 100% Yeah JP, what about that? That is dead wr

[e-gold-list] Re: Broadband mesh satellite system

2003-06-23 Thread Robert S.Z.
> actually I just realized they have that Just imagine Gordon, we could start setting up datacenters on old freighters and cruise around the world while offering 'mobile' hosting services :o) Sure, we wouldn't have our own 'jurisdiction' as sealand has, but we'd be out of everybody's jurisdiction

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-23 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> (I'm not sure if e-gold's storage fees will stay the same for that long!) > The e-gold storage fee is only 1% per year, not 1.2%. > > Also, e-gold is just plain worth more because you can do things with > it that you can't do with this stuff BESIDES just being long gold. For > similar reasons, te

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> But shares (as in, you know, MSFT) don't work like what you describe, > Darren. There's no "certain number" of shares that "is" MSFT, and if > there is (say) 5 billion out there currently, that means that that 5 > billion is X percent of the "total"shares simply dont work like > that. Compa

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> : A DGC which would use this gold ETF as backing, would be able to > offer much > : lower fees. > > Danny, > > Pecunix charges ZERO storage fees, as does 1MDC... you can't go lower > than that! True, but Pecunix also has a 2% above spot purchase cost, so you have to hold for 2 years before Pecu

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> >> Later the board decided to dilute the stock and issue 9 million more > >> shares. Your 1 share now means you own one-ten-millionth of the > >> company. Bill now owns 5% of the company. > > > > > >This is true, > > indeed. ie, what you said earlier was incorrect. previously you > spoke

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-23 Thread FileMatrix
> cover their expenses by the commission they have on the trade I think E-gold doesn't want to eliminate the storage fee for a very simple reason: it forces people to spend! People are more likely to spend their gold if they know there is a storage fee that would be paid if the gold would just sit

[e-gold-list] Re: Broadband mesh satellite system

2003-06-23 Thread Katz Global Media
actually I just realized they have that http://www.hns.com/default.asp?CurrentPath=products/advanced_platforms/inmarsat/inmarsat.htm Gordon --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use e-gold's Secure Randomi

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[e-gold-list] Broadband mesh satellite system

2003-06-23 Thread Katz Global Media
Imagine continent-wide coverage combined with mesh network capabilities...Now imagine download speeds as high as 50 Mbps and upload rates as fast as 16 Mbps - on demand and as required. it will soon be possible. we are bringing it to you! No just kidding... This hughes project looks like its g

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-23 Thread James M. Ray
At 1:50 PM +0300 6/23/03, Danny Van den Berghe wrote: ... >Well, I looked up some more information and there is a small commission >indeed. >0.02% per month, which covers everything, storage and management of the >fund. > Ah, much better (though their redemption policy is still irrational -- ANY

[e-gold-list] RE: golden blue

2003-06-23 Thread Frank Mottley
JP May wrote: "Whereas TGC shares are utterly rock solid, riskless, shares in a utility. Of course 'riskless' is a relative thing but they are 'riskless' in the sense that treasuries are riskless or normal inner city 1st world real estate is riskless. Low return, super conservative, utilitiy cla

[e-gold-list] Best investment

2003-06-23 Thread Max Bear
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[e-gold-list] Re: brokerage disintermediated

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 01:47 AM, Robert S.Z. wrote: You can't take friction away from a frictionless system. Of course not! But calling e-gold or DBourse frictionless is the same as calling a bottle an endless supply. First you gotta get it in there, before you can use it. ... That's 12%

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread jpm
Are the 400 shares the whole of the company? As such do the share holders (the people who own the 400 shares) have control of the company? Say, I have a million shares in my company. I decide to release 400 shares I sell these based on the promise of a divident of 7.2 % pa. Investors buy these s

[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-23 Thread Patrick Chkoreff
On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 01:27 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1mdc is e-gold itself, but circulated electronically! So if 1mdc is electronically circulated e-gold, what then is e-gold? Gold circulated by carrier pidgins? ;) e-gold's motto or tagline is "gold itself, circulated electronically"

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-23 Thread Admin
> I have opened brokerage accounts, futures trading accounts and even Swiss > bank account all online just like you sign up for e-gold. > And I am not even living in the US. > Don't believe me: www.internaxx.com will open you a brokerage account in > Luxembourg, www.xpresstrade.com and you will be

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread jpm
Later the board decided to dilute the stock and issue 9 million more shares. Your 1 share now means you own one-ten-millionth of the company. Bill now owns 5% of the company. This is true, indeed. ie, what you said earlier was incorrect. previously you spoke as if you thought companies ha

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread Sidd
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - - Original Message - From: "Danny Van den Berghe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : For me as an e-gold user it doesn't matter what it costs e-gold to store the : gold, what matters to me is how much I have to pay for the storage, which : 1.2% annuall

[e-gold-list] Re: stock market confusion

2003-06-23 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> >If it is not clear what part of the company a share represents, then you > >cannot really call it a stock. > > But Danny, the amount of a stock issued changes constantly. MSFT > stock was at first 1 million shares, so if you owned 1, you owned > 1/millionth of the company (sort of), Bill owned

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> Hello Danny, > > I think that many people are under the misapprehension that the > storage component in a digital currency system is a significant cost. > This is simply not the case. The storage costs are miniscule in > comparison to other normal operating costs. For me as an e-gold user it do

[e-gold-list] Re: "Free" storage (was Re: gold ETF and GDC)

2003-06-23 Thread Danny Van den Berghe
> The mines are silly not to just do the simple thing and use what's > already there -- e-gold, but they're welcome to try this scheme. I > just want to see the fine print, I guess. Well, I looked up some more information and there is a small commission indeed. 0.02% per month, which covers every

[e-gold-list] Re: gold ETF and GDC

2003-06-23 Thread David Hillary
Baskets of commodities are poor units of accounts, stores of value and mediums of exchange, and are therefore poor moneys. A tabular standard of value adds noise and politics exactly where it is least required -- to the reference commodity. Tabular standards are inefficient in redemption and set

[e-gold-list] golden blue ...

2003-06-23 Thread jpm
Obviously the opposite can happen as well, and if anything is attempted to shut down the offshore island Sealand (or even the rumor) , the value of your shares in TGC will probably drop significantly, it could be even difficult to find an interested buyer in a worst case scenario. But this doesn't

[e-gold-list] Re: pool for a share

2003-06-23 Thread Katz Global Media
I don't have enough time at the moment to keep up with this conversation and get into it, but I am really interested in this whole concept. We would be interested in releasing a similar offering although I think a lower per share price makes more sense. I think listing all comers would be the m

[e-gold-list] Re: brokerage disintermediated

2003-06-23 Thread jpm
So there is no conceivable value in a brokerage. Sure there is. A brokerage with a 1mdc account could credit me on the spot, place my order on the spot, and i might have boght 20 shares and sold 18 of them at a profit before the guy at the trading desk checked his e-gold account once ;o) Robert,